BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I don't know why these threads make me giggle like a 6 year old calling someone poopyhead but damn, I can't resist!

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There is a little history here. DS is a WLS type, it is kinda like extreme malabsorption and it makes your poop and farts so bad people could faint. I mean it's HORRIBLE! This is something DSers battle all the time. It's so bad if they fart the stench clings to their clothing. Others complain openly in public restrooms. I'm telling you, it's extreme. They are forever having to keep Fabreeze and specialized products with them 24/7. One bariatric surgeon was telling another person about a patient where he was removing her gallbladder. She farted while under anesthesia and they were gagging in the OR and since it was the middle of surgery, he couldn't leave the room. The gallbladder patient had DS.

He went on to say that if a DSer farted in an elevator, when the doors opened people wouldn't be rushing out of the elevator, they'd be dead.

There are WLS type wars on OH all the time. Bandsters tease DSers for stinking and they tease us for barfing. They are forever insisting they don't stink yet they keep companies like this in productive business! HA

This thread just cracked me up, I've been laughing since I read it. I just can't imagine my husband wanting me to buy EXTREME odor eaters for the bathroom and clothing. I can't fathom this conversation in my home!

It's not funny that DS patients stink so bad, it's not. But if you saw the horrific things they say about us, referring to our bands as laugh-bands, choke chains, if you saw how they degrade and insult banded people for being banded, maybe you would understand my childish laughter going on right now.

If DS patients eat carbs that is when it is apparently the worst. One piece of cake and they get instant gas and clear a building. Yeah, I'll take my choke chain any 'ol day over farts that are lethal and a stench following me each place I go.

You tell em Fanny!!

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So, if DS'ers do not absorb any nutrients, does the food come out in a manner of hours???

Sometimes I wish there weren't WLS anymore!!

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Yeah froggi,

Don't expect me to stick up for you anymore, you're one to talk..............:crying:

Sometimes I wish there weren't WLS anymore!! take care Nancy.

I'm sure glad there is!!

But there are kool-aide drinkers here.

Did somebody say "Kool Aide"?!?

*bursts through wall*

Oh Yeah......

Really, there are nice DSers and even some of the more aggressive ones can be very helpful to non-DSers about insurance and surgery choices.

Yeah, I'm sure there are lots of laid-back DS-ers. More power to them. We're all in the WLS Soup together. All my jabs were directed at the crazies (kool-aide drinkers, to use the excellent terminology of Mac....although I suspect few people remember Jim Jones nowadays) who militantly defend the DS as the come-all be-all of WLS.

To be honest, Mac, I haven't seen very many banders here that are quite that aggressively pro-band (or.....maybe I am one of those and that's why I don't see it? That'd be ironic).

I get being an advocate for your tool. I understand that 100%.

What I *don't* get is why they have to be so full on about getting every WLS'er to have a DS, and attacking everyone who doesn't agree with their choice.

If an RNY, sleeve or LapBand work for a person, why not just leave it at that. It just sounds like they are trying to justify their surgey type. Like they have to keep proving to themselves that they made the right choice by picking the DS. Fear will do that I guess.

I get being an advocate for your tool. I understand that 100%.

What I *don't* get is why they have to be so full on about getting every WLS'er to have a DS, and attacking everyone who doesn't agree with their choice.

If an RNY, sleeve or LapBand work for a person, why not just leave it at that. It just sounds like they are trying to justify their surgey type. Like they have to keep proving to themselves that they made the right choice by picking the DS. Fear will do that I guess.

Further to that, what I don't get is the "I told you so" attitude when some one's choice of WLS (outside of the glorious DS *tongue in cheek*) doesn't work out for them for whatever reason. There are GOOD reasons why different WLS don't work for particular people. Why make some one feel worse that they probably already do because of a mechanical error or physical complication that stops that particular WLS from being a success for that person? Its just plain mean and nasty. We're all starting from the same point aren't we??

I was drawn for less than a 24 hour period, had a lapse in judgment, but still have been in many a forum dealing with WLS and LBT is just as harsh as any other I've been involved in specifically with me personally:mellow:

But you have to admit, there is kinda more to that story. With ANY WLS type you have to do your part, too. Even DSers have to watch carb intake or they stink and gain weight.

I think that is the biggest problem I have with DSers other than the obvious. They make it seem like they can eat anything and never gain a pound. They are just like RNY, LB, or sleeves, they have to watch what they put in their mouths.

@MacMadame: Yeah I know this is R&R and it can be fun to get down and dirty with the bitchiness - hell, I belong to a forum where that is the sole entire aim of the place, and believe me that place can get nasty! But this thread still strikes me as incredibly hypocritical - all the things that people in here are accusing people in the DS/OH forum of being (and most of the accusations are true), are also exhibited by people in here, in spades.

Oh, I don't know. What you say is true yet it isn't. You have to understand the history and been a member of OH band boards where banding couldn't even be discussed on the band boards because the stinky ones were taking over the threads. Every newbie was attacked and slam dunked for daring to consider a band. Those at goal were told they were liars and couldn't possibly be at goal. Others were telling at goal folks that there is no way they would stay at goal with a band. They still use old studies that were "completed" in the late 90s as today's results. There was a different surgical technique used then and people were indeed slipping and eroding left and right. They present these studies to today's noobs and tell them there is no way they can lose weight with a band.

They call it the laugh band, choke chain, leash, etc. You really had to see one of these threads where they were attacking banded folks in a banded forum for being so stupid, naive, and ignorant to get a band. They were like Fred Phelps recruiting newbies.

It was so bad OH banned a few of them, moderated many of them, and moved legit newbie threads to their R&R forum. Their R&R forum is NOTHING like this forum. Here you attack the idea and not the person. There, you attack the person and have fun doing it. These were newbies that were just trying to learn about their options that were attacked left and right. They still try to take over the band boards here and there but now people are fighting for their own board. It's a pity they have to fight to just discuss banding without the harassment of the stinky ones.

To imply we are doing the same is a bit of a stretch. Well, it's a hell of a stretch.

Edited August 13, 200818 yr by WASaBubbleButt

Yeah froggi,

Don't expect me to stick up for you anymore, you're one to talk..............:crying:

You didn't really stick up for me. You were on the DS board asking why I was giving them shit, when you didn't know half of the story then you said I was weird and told them I was from LBT. Plus you were only on that forum to learn about DS. And they tried to convert you right away too.

Oh, I don't know. What you say is true yet it isn't. You have to understand the history and been a member of OH band boards where banding couldn't even be discussed on the band boards because the stinky ones were taking over the threads. Every newbie was attacked and slam dunked for daring to consider a band. Those at goal were told they were liars and couldn't possibly be at goal. Others were telling at goal folks that there is no way they would stay at goal with a band. They still use old studies that were "completed" in the late 90s as today's results. There was a different surgical technique used then and people were indeed slipping and eroding left and right. They present these studies to today's noobs and tell them there is no way they can lose weight with a band.

They call it the laugh band, choke chain, leash, etc. You really had to see one of these threads where they were attacking banded folks in a banded forum for being so stupid, naive, and ignorant to get a band. They were like Fred Phelps recruiting newbies.

It was so bad OH banned a few of them, moderated many of them, and moved legit newbie threads to their R&R forum. Their R&R forum is NOTHING like this forum. Here you attack the idea and not the person. There, you attack the person and have fun doing it. These were newbies that were just trying to learn about their options that were attacked left and right. They still try to take over the band boards here and there but now people are fighting for their own board. It's a pity they have to fight to just discuss banding without the harassment of the stinky ones.

To imply we are doing the same is a bit of a stretch. Well, it's a hell of a stretch.

When I first started the process of having surgery, I signed up over at OH. I didn't start posting until I had insurance approval. I started posting right in the midst of HUGE drama between the band people and the DS people and said the hell with it and came here. They seem to move from board to board preaching their method and their R&R is full of DS vs. ____ posts. It's crazy.

You didn't really stick up for me. You were on the DS board asking why I was giving them shit, when you didn't know half of the story then you said I was weird and told them I was from LBT. Plus you were only on that forum to learn about DS. And they tried to convert you right away too.

LOL... my my, now the rest of the story comes out. This one makes more sense.

But you have to admit, there is kinda more to that story. With ANY WLS type you have to do your part, too. Even DSers have to watch carb intake or they stink and gain weight.

I think that is the biggest problem I have with DSers other than the obvious. They make it seem like they can eat anything and never gain a pound. They are just like RNY, LB, or sleeves, they have to watch what they put in their mouths.

I just think that the attitude here in lapland is the same as the attitude there in obesityland I don't see any difference between the two forums, there's a feeling of "mine is better than yours and mine works better than yours" in both forums so why attack each other, it seems silly and weird that the people here don't see the same thing in themselves IMHO.

Froggi went over and baited them anyway I saw her original post and came back here to share about it, what does that tell you? We're all drawn into WLS for a variety of reasons, some of us have had revisions and others, like myself have a daughter who had a different procedure than myself. We're also seeking out information and the pettiness that often goes on is not conducive to support, IMHO, Nancy:frown: