I just finished reading a couple of posts and I couldn't do anything but say to myself, "Seriously? Really?"

I know there are going to be some people that will probably what to take my head off for this one, but I just have to ask... Are there really people that frequent this website that are so weak-minded and sensitive that they can be absolutely devastated and sent into an uncontrollable bout of depression over something someone wrote in a thread?

If someone that you don't know, have never met, and they know nothing about you, can cause such an emotional reaction in you, I personally think that you don't even need to be considering WLS at this point. You really should be seeking out the services of a therapist to figure out what makes you give away your personal power to a complete stranger.

I hear people say how "mean" some people are, and how rude others are. People are only to you what you allow them to be, and they can only take control of the power you give them.

I have never testified that I know everything about everything, but to the contrary I'm not dumb as a box of rocks! Bottom line, stop letting the things these people on this site upset you, or even get your dander up. You never know, they may come here just to see what type of drama they can get started. If you find something of value to you, keep it and cherish it. All the rest of this mess is nothing but chatter.

This post may not have been directly toward you, but if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that b i t c h up and wear it.

I see no abuse in @@Cleo's Mom's posts. It started off as simply asking for a little civility and understanding when replying to posts, nothing more. I applaud her efforts and whole heartedly agree that this site could certainly benefit from the overall message of "doing onto others" a little bit more.

Thank you. There hasn't been any abuse in my posts. As I have said repeatedly, if you post answers that are civil (and yes they can be truthful) you can do it in a way that doesn't require you to defend your post. No one is ever offended by a post if it is done in a sensitive, nice way - including being truthful.

No YOU are the hypocrite. If you had a problem with something someone posted then say it to their face on the thread they were in. But you took the coward's way out.

This isn't about not hurting anyone with your rude or nasty comments. What they don't know doesn't hurt them, blah, blah, blah. What a total cop out.

I knew we would never get a truthful answer out of you.

Keep hiding. And btw, I got a private message today from someone who supported me - but she also assumed that those who post like you are veteran WLS people. I corrected her on that assumption about you.

@@Cleo's Mom

You seem emotionally invested in this thread and may not realize this, but (in my opinion) your remarks above are abusive.

Maybe you should consider taking a short break.

Best wishes to you.

What remarks, specifically, do you find abusive? And, btw, the founder of this site, bariatric pal, supports me in my views and postings.

And how much emotional investment are you making since you're still on here?

Edited March 24, 201511 yr by Cleo's Mom

Off subject question for you Cleo.... do you work outside the home? just curious....

Irrelevant to anything.

No YOU are the hypocrite. If you had a problem with something someone posted then say it to their face on the thread they were in. But you took the coward's way out.

This isn't about not hurting anyone with your rude or nasty comments. What they don't know doesn't hurt them, blah, blah, blah. What a total cop out.

I knew we would never get a truthful answer out of you.

Keep hiding. And btw, I got a private message today from someone who supported me - but she also assumed that those who post like you are veteran WLS people. I corrected her on that assumption about you.

What remarks, specifically, do you find abusive? And, btw, the founder of this site, bariatric pal, supports me in my views and postings.

Really?

You are calling someone a liar? A coward? A hypocrite? Rude and nasty?? All because she won't call out someone BY NAME just because you WANT her to? What happened to being nice? Being kind? It seems to me that the OP was venting, you assumed to know who she was venting about and you were incorrect. That's it.

I highly doubt @@Alex Brecher condones name calling of any sort. Someone liking a post in another thread (or even this one) does not mean they condone any and all behavior that you choose to exhibit thereafter.

No YOU are the hypocrite. If you had a problem with something someone posted then say it to their face on the thread they were in. But you took the coward's way out.

This isn't about not hurting anyone with your rude or nasty comments. What they don't know doesn't hurt them, blah, blah, blah. What a total cop out.

I knew we would never get a truthful answer out of you.

Keep hiding. And btw, I got a private message today from someone who supported me - but she also assumed that those who post like you are veteran WLS people. I corrected her on that assumption about you.

>What remarks, specifically, do you find abusive? And, btw, the founder of this site, bariatric pal, supports me in my views and postings.

Really?

You are calling someone a liar? A coward? A hypocrite? Rude and nasty?? All because she won't call out someone BY NAME just because you WANT her to? What happened to being nice? Being kind? It seems to me that the OP was venting, you assumed to know who she was venting about and you were incorrect. That's it.

I highly doubt @@Alex Brecher condones name calling of any sort. Someone liking a post in another thread (or even this one) does not mean they condone any and all behavior that you choose to exhibit thereafter.

No YOU are the hypocrite. If you had a problem with something someone posted then say it to their face on the thread they were in. But you took the coward's way out.

This isn't about not hurting anyone with your rude or nasty comments. What they don't know doesn't hurt them, blah, blah, blah. What a total cop out.

I knew we would never get a truthful answer out of you.

Keep hiding. And btw, I got a private message today from someone who supported me - but she also assumed that those who post like you are veteran WLS people. I corrected her on that assumption about you.

>What remarks, specifically, do you find abusive? And, btw, the founder of this site, bariatric pal, supports me in my views and postings.

Really?

You are calling someone a liar? A coward? A hypocrite? Rude and nasty?? All because she won't call out someone BY NAME just because you WANT her to? What happened to being nice? Being kind? It seems to me that the OP was venting, you assumed to know who she was venting about and you were incorrect. That's it.

I highly doubt @@Alex Brecher condones name calling of any sort. Someone liking a post in another thread (or even this one) does not mean they condone any and all behavior that you choose to exhibit thereafter.

Where did I call anyone a liar? She made references to her so-called rude and nasty comments. I guess you are okay when someone calls me a hypocrite but not when I come back at them with the same. What does that make you?

This is really something. That's all I got. But, at least I do have some drama to come home to since they took my soaps off the air. Carry on.

Off subject question for you Cleo.... do you work outside the home? just curious....

Irrelevant to anything.

I think your a Troller.... with nothing else to do with your life except throw your .2cents in. You have been here for 4 years and have accumulated a handful of "friends".... you have updated nothing about yourself except that you had LB surgery. Don't even have the ball to come from behind your computer screen to post a pic.... yet your criticize most everyone.

I went back and read the posts in question and saw you continuously attacking others for disagreeing with your opinion. maybe you should take a long look in the mirror and re-evaluate who you really are and why you feel the need to think your always right.

The reason i asked if you worked is because.... if you did, i would bet you don't get along with the people there either.

Where did I call anyone a liar? She made references to her so-called rude and nasty comments. I guess you are okay when someone calls me a hypocrite but not when I come back at them with the same. What does that make you?

You said "I knew we would never get a truthful answer out of you". IMO, and maybe I'm wrong, that's no different than calling her a liar.

And no. I NEVER condone name calling by anyone on ANY side of an argument/debate/discussion. I didn't call you a name, please don't try to goad me into your argument here. I'm not playing.

Where did I call anyone a liar? She made references to her so-called rude and nasty comments. I guess you are okay when someone calls me a hypocrite but not when I come back at them with the same. What does that make you?

You said "I knew we would never get a truthful answer out of you". IMO, and maybe I'm wrong, that's no different than calling her a liar.

And no. I NEVER condone name calling by anyone on ANY side of an argument/debate/discussion. I didn't call you a name, please don't try to goad me into your argument here. I'm not playing.

You called ME out for calling her a hypocrite but said nothing about her calling me one first. So you are picking and choosing when to attack someone for something they said. If that isn't true then you need to call her out on calling me a hypocrite first. Somehow I don't think that is going to happen.

And yes, saying we are never going to get a truthful answer is different than saying she is a liar. We have to take her at her word that her thread wasn't about "4 weeks out and depressed" but if she is unwilling to at least copy and paste the posts (no names) she finds so problematic that she would start a new thread - then we will never learn the truth as to whether there really were any posts or she just decided to vent.

Edited March 24, 201511 yr by Cleo's Mom

I don't understand why the amount of "friends" a poster has, whether they have a profile picture, or provide current vital statistics in their profile in any way qualifies an individual as a troll. These are all personal individual choices we all make that are neither right nor wrong.

And asking someone whether they work outside the home for the sole purpose of making assumptions as to their popularity outside this site is in no way a legitimate question.

Edited March 24, 201511 yr by The Candidate

Off subject question for you Cleo.... do you work outside the home? just curious....

Irrelevant to anything.

I think your a Troller.... with nothing else to do with your life except throw your .2cents in. You have been here for 4 years and have accumulated a handful of "friends".... you have updated nothing about yourself except that you had LB surgery. Don't even have the ball to come from behind your computer screen to post a pic.... yet your criticize most everyone.

I went back and read the posts in question and saw you continuously attacking others for disagreeing with your opinion. maybe you should take a long look in the mirror and re-evaluate who you really are and why you feel the need to think your always right.

The reason i asked if you worked is because.... if you did, i would bet you don't get along with the people there either.

I have as much right as anyone on here to post - or as you put it "put my 2 cents in". Who (names) did I attack for disagreeing with my opinion? I have a right to my opinion just as they have a right to theirs. And several on here have disagreed with me as I have with them. What is the point you are trying to make?

I was on here when it was just the lap band forum before it became bariatric pal. I did a lot of postings then but haven't been active until recently when I started contemplating getting the sleeve.

Now listen carefully to this: I will post what I want when I want. I will also include or not include what I choose in my profile or update what I want when I want. Who do you think you are to criticize me for that?

And I can tell you that no one has ever accused me of - as you put it - not having balls. I am a very assertive person, I stand up for myself and I do so unapologetically. Got it?

Talk about beating a dead horse (no offense to horse lovers...I love them too),

Wow. Angry much..... Cleo....You really need a hobby

Edited March 24, 201511 yr by bayougirlmrsc

You called ME out for calling her a hypocrite but said nothing about her calling me one first. So you are picking and choosing when to attack someone for something they said. If that isn't true then you need to call her out on calling me a hypocrite first. Somehow I don't think that is going to happen.

And yes, saying we are never going to get a truthful answer is different than saying she is a liar. We have to take her at her word that her thread wasn't about "4 weeks out and depressed" but if she is unwilling to at least copy and paste the posts (no names) she finds so problematic that she would start a new thread - then we will never learn the truth as to whether there really were any posts or she just decided to vent.

Ok.

Wow. Angry much..... Cleo....You really need a hobby

Really? I stand up for myself so therefore I need a hobby? I come back at someone who calls me a troller, says I don't have balls, judges me because I don't have a picture or updates on my profile and says if I worked I wouldn't get along with people there. But somehow I am angry for replying to this? Wow! Some of you people on here are really something else. Just amazing!..

I don't understand why the amount of "friends" a poster has, whether they have a profile picture, or provide current vital statistics in their profile in any way qualifies an individual as a troll. These are all personal individual choices we all make that are neither right nor wrong.

And asking someone whether they work outside the home for the sole purpose of making assumptions as to their popularity outside this site is in no way a legitimate question.

I agree but apparently I need a hobby because I took exception to her post. The mindset of some on here just baffles me. Thanks for your post.