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Diet Cheating!

So im,2 weeks out on the puree diet and can no longer hold the secret but I'm cheating I eat plantain chips and corn with flax seeds chips and chunky Peanut Butter. I eat meats that aren't canned and I had Popeyes mashed potatoes. I know I should not have Crunchies but honestly I'm not going to lie I'm sick of this "sheltered" life I just want to be "normal". I don't feel pain with my sleeve and I even snack which isn't in my diet plan at this point. (The chips I'm eating aren't high in fat or sugar or carbs)

Ugh be nice to me but tell me to stop! Or tell me I'm okay. I don't know this is annoying

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Of course, you are going to be judge on one post AND you ask for it. "Ugh be nice to me but tell me to stop! Or tell me I'm okay. I don't know this is annoying" The only way not to be judged on one post is not to post. Don't be angry because people are giving you advice that you aren't prepared to hear. I really hope that you will seek some help.

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Of course, you are going to be judge on one post AND you ask for it. "Ugh be nice to me but tell me to stop! Or tell me I'm okay. I don't know this is annoying" The only way not to be judged on one post is not to post. Don't be angry because people are giving you advice that you aren't prepared to hear. I really hope that you will seek some help.

Yup just being a cry baby. Like you said I wasn't prepared for the truth.

I don't think anyone is implying that this is easy or that you thought it would be easy. But you asked a specific question - is this behavior okay? The specific answer is NO. We are being supportive - by telling you to get help. But apparently that is not the kind of support you want. I understand.

I know I sounded harsh, and may have even offended a few people by it, including you. What I took issue with is not the fact that you were "cheating", but the fact that you are only TWO WEEKS OUT and you are eating things that could harm your stomach and almost have a "Well yeah I'm eating this crap by dammit I need to do this" attitude. You have got to look at your new tummy like a baby's. You have to follow your plan in order for it to heal properly. Nobody is perfect, and I wasn't saying that. I'm just saying for goodness sake have enough self respect to take care of yourself the way you need to in order for this surgery to be successful. And eating sharp, crunchy stuff at 2 weeks out is not the way to do it. You seem very smart and spunky. I KNOW you can do this!

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I know I sounded harsh, and may have even offended a few people by it, including you. What I took issue with is not the fact that you were "cheating", but the fact that you are only TWO WEEKS OUT and you are eating things that could harm your stomach and almost have a "Well yeah I'm eating this crap by dammit I need to do this" attitude. You have got to look at your new tummy like a baby's. You have to follow your plan in order for it to heal properly. Nobody is perfect, and I wasn't saying that. I'm just saying for goodness sake have enough self respect to take care of yourself the way you need to in order for this surgery to be successful. And eating sharp, crunchy stuff at 2 weeks out is not the way to do it. You seem very smart and spunky. I KNOW you can do this!

No its fine what you said if right but I'm sure everyone can relate in order to really succeed at this you NEED to love yourself and be willing to change for you. And I've been struggling with this. Everyone's like wow you look amazing but to me I'm still at 259lbs not 230lbs so I'm still in the state of mind where I look awful. But thank you for caring enough to appologize. I'm just sensitive =)

No its fine what you said if right but I'm sure everyone can relate in order to really succeed at this you NEED to love yourself and be willing to change for you. And I've been struggling with this. Everyone's like wow you look amazing but to me I'm still at 259lbs not 230lbs so I'm still in the state of mind where I look awful. But thank you for caring enough to appologize. I'm just sensitive =)

See. Smart and spunky :) Just look at this as one of the many bumps in the road on the journey ahead. Take care of yourself. You deserve it!

@@Aribay1 - Here is a thread for Buddies & Mentors. It might be a good place to get the support you need. Your post don't feel like you are being honest with yourself, much less the posters replying to them. You made one post implying you were vegetarian, yet you wanted a KFC bowl. You made another talking about the Nature's Box snack boxes. Now you are saying you are 2 weeks in but slipped 2 days. Yet when asked about this you appear to want to down play your actions.

Check out that thread and see if you can connect with someone. I wish you well.

  1. I don't feel as though I am on a diet. I have made a lifestyle change regarding my diet and exercise and plan to stick with it.
  2. I don't feel like I'm "normal". Whether I had a food addiction, or laziness, or slow metabolism, etc., I had to change my ways. The surgery is a tool. I didn't go through the process to eat the same way I did before just in smaller amounts. I had the surgery as a stepping stone to reboot my life.
  3. I am no expert but I think WLS patients lose the most during the first 3 months, 6 months, 9 months so I am trying to get the "most bang for my buck" and stick to the plan. I mean that literally since I paid for the surgery myself.

Now that's not to say that I haven't gone out and had a small (I mean really small!!) piece of pizza, or a cocktail ( I know, we are not supposed to have alcohol within the first year but I figured one vodka and water- no high sugar mixes- wouldn't hurt). I read all of my food labels and rarely go out to eat anymore. The savings in my pocketbook is a huge bonus too!

Best of luck!!

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@@Aribay1 - Here is a thread for Buddies & Mentors. It might be a good place to get the support you need. Your post don't feel like you are being honest with yourself, much less the posters replying to them. You made one post implying you were vegetarian, yet you wanted a KFC bowl. You made another talking about the Nature's Box snack boxes. Now you are saying you are 2 weeks in but slipped 2 days. Yet when asked about this you appear to want to down play your actions.

Check out that thread and see if you can connect with someone. I wish you well.

Maybe your right but in the same kFC post I said my NUT doesn't think I should be a vegetarian so soon. And also I said although I was a vegetarian I craved meat from time to time

There really is no easy way to say that you are basically reverting back to the habits that got you to needing the surgery in the first place. I'm 4 days out and completely conscious of the fact that this is a life style change. That I need this to live a longer and healthier life. I'm still healing and it is a process. No it will not be easy but yes it will be worth it. I will never do anything to damage all the hard work it took to get me here. All that junk will be there in the future. If I still want it. Goal is, I won't. You are fooling only yourself and unfortunate will only hurt yourself. I agree with everyone here and definitely think you should speak to your nutritionist. 2 weeks does not sheltered make. For your entire life's health, I think it's more than worth it, and you should too. Be blessed and stay strong but most importantly ... On track.

I hear everything everyone is saying trust me. What I mean. By normal is I didn't meal prep the last 2 days so Popeyes was in between classes. Like I said the chips ARE NOT high in carbs or fat or sugar my concern with them is that it's not puree. And by normal I mean I've been out of work for 2 weeks and I'm going insane I want my NORMAL social life back. I went out today and I wasn't able to get in my Water so I was just confused with how me and my sleeve will be once I return to all social activities

I don't know why you are trying to rationalize the fact that you are eating foods you should not. As many have stated, you can do severe damage to your sleeve. I also encourage you to get therapy. Why in the world would you put yourself through surgery if you are resuming your bad eating habits?

you and us are only human, you took the step of asking for help. that's a great thing. know this, I have faith in you and so do people her, even if some don't show it well. But if they didn't care they wouldn't bother. SO We know you can do this, and your next day is the first day you have a chance to help yourself. You can and will do this and make it happen.

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you and us are only human, you took the step of asking for help. that's a great thing. know this, I have faith in you and so do people her, even if some don't show it well. But if they didn't care they wouldn't bother. SO We know you can do this, and your next day is the first day you have a chance to help yourself. You can and will do this and make it happen.

Thank you for your kind words. As I said in another comment I did my meal prep for the week and I'm back on track today was better. I'm experiencing a lot of head hunger but I just start doing school work or something.

Only I know what's really going on so I need to help myself.

Aribay1

I hear you.

I recently posted a thread and didn't get responses I'd hoped for/ expected. I'm still processing what everyone said, because I know they're giving me their best advise- even if it isn't concordant with what I wanted to read. Actually, I'd hoped to see a post from you to get perspective from the young-set.

I understand It's hard to read when people don't agree with you or don't give the type of reinforcement you'd hoped for. Some of it can be pretty harsh. Take time to process it. It's a lot to absorb.

I'm so relieved you've course-corrected. SO important.

I cheated on my pre-op, and on my post op. I was on medifast liquid yuk for 3 months pre, and the post-op: Clear liquids and then more shakes Nothing solid for ~3months total? OMFG! I couldn't take it. Had to sink my teeth into 'something', can't remember what it was, but I know it wasn't crunchy. Probably a McD's happy meal hamburger (not the whole meal). I didn't do it a lot, probably 2-3 x's in 3 months. Even after the 1st 2 fills- I was ravenous! I could've eaten the bark off a tree. I had huge guilt, beat myself up to pieces and like you- course corrected.

Not trying to make it sound ok- it wasn't. Still, I did lose the pre-weight I was supposed to and was no worse for the wear on the post- i chewed till extra mush.

I'm banded tho- not sleeved. My stomach wasn't cut at all the way though, although it was stretched up over the bottom of the band and stitched to itself to prevent slippage.

yours and mine, both MAJOR surgeries. The difference is: your stomach wall was sliced clear through. I know you know that. I'm just saying, it's a huge difference.

The posters are right. it's easy for a tiny seed or even a ground up flaxseed to lodge in the incision, easy to get an infection or worse, tear the incision from an unchewed crunchy. (I wonder if you chewed to mush before swallowing)

The raw stitched/stapled wound through the stomach wall is going to take some time to heal. Get something lodged in there- it could literally ruin the rest of your life- or shorten it.

I think the bigger issue, is that when we're young, we think we're indestructible and we'll live forever. VerY common in young, early 20-somethings. We don't think twice about how the decisions we make could make us suffer later on- it seems so far away...

When we're middle-aged, suddenly, we start feeling the repercussions of those bad decisions we made in our youth. Aches & pains all over, trust me. A LOT of middle-agers forget what it's like to be young, with so many years ahead, feeling indestructible- and those bad decisions they made then that caused themselves grief later on.

I don't think you are selfish or have serious mental food obsession issues that you can't follow your plan. I think it sounds more like you didn't fully think through the repercussions of 'cheating' and the super serious ramifications that could result from.... a couple lousy chips.

I hope I'm not making you feel bad. Not my intention.

I'm just letting you know you're not the only one who's 'cheated' pre or post surg. That wasn't a good choice for either of us. We know that.

There's probably others who've cheated as well but aren't brave enough to be truthful and/ or didn't post openly on it.

I also want you to know I care, and want you to really understand that major surgery is no joke.

We have to be patient and allow our bodies to heal. There's no rushing it. There's no such thing as wonder woman super fast healer. You just have to love yourself, love your body inside and out, whatever weight or size you are, and allow yourself the time to heal. And as your body heals, so will your mind, and your insecurities, and your head-hunger, dying for some crunch, and your poor outlook of yourself - all goes away - Super exciting prospect for your future- but only if you allow yourself to heal properly. And I know you will.

With love...

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