Hey everyone.

I'm a bit confused about this. If we're stuck to a 1,200 calorie diet, how will we be able to gain muscle? I'm just wondering. Thanks!

Protein & exercise.

Hey everyone.

I'm a bit confused about this. If we're stuck to a 1' date='200 calorie diet, how will we be able to gain muscle? I'm just wondering. Thanks![/quote']

It certainly is challenging. Eventually you are going to want to work your calories up to about 2000 a day or near your TDEE. This will take some time as a post op and you should do it gradually after month 6 or whenever you choose to. To eat this amount of calories, you will need to be eating sleeve quantity of as much Protein as you can manage every 2-3 hours. Try and target 40 g a meal as that is the optimal amount the body can process in 2 hours for guys. Your diet should be as clean as possible to support building those muscles combined with hard core training and a lot of Water during the day. It takes plenty of work, but if you align yourself with some good principles, it is possible to build muscle as a VST post op. my exercise of choice right now is cross fit where I get plenty of opportunities to lift to max and to do rep sets that build real strength. I also do workouts at home on non cross fit days. The other recommendation is to supplement with Protein powder as sourcing the calories all from food is hard. Take a high quality whey in the morning and a casein shake right before bed. Probably stuff you know already.

It certainly is challenging. Eventually you are going to want to work your calories up to about 2000 a day or near your TDEE. This will take some time as a post op and you should do it gradually after month 6 or whenever you choose to. To eat this amount of calories, you will need to be eating sleeve quantity of as much Protein as you can manage every 2-3 hours. Try and target 40 g a meal as that is the optimal amount the body can process in 2 hours for guys. Your diet should be as clean as possible to support building those muscles combined with hard core training and a lot of Water during the day. It takes plenty of work, but if you align yourself with some good principles, it is possible to build muscle as a VST post op. my exercise of choice right now is cross fit where I get plenty of opportunities to lift to max and to do rep sets that build real strength. I also do workouts at home on non cross fit days. The other recommendation is to supplement with protein powder as sourcing the calories all from food is hard. Take a high quality whey in the morning and a casein shake right before bed. Probably stuff you know already.

Ah, thank you so much. This post was great.

I was really confused because I remember "maintenance" being 1200 calories. I wasn't sure if it was because of our metabolisms slowing or what. Thanks for the advice, man. You cleared a lot up.

Any time!

I am curious about this as well. I'm still two months out from pre-op and at the gym almost every day. I really want to get ripped as I lose weight. I'm 6'3" and I have always been pretty strong. I don't want to lose any of the lean mass that's hidden under my gut!

It certainly is challenging. Eventually you are going to want to work your calories up to about 2000 a day or near your TDEE. This will take some time as a post op and you should do it gradually after month 6 or whenever you choose to. To eat this amount of calories, you will need to be eating sleeve quantity of as much protein as you can manage every 2-3 hours. Try and target 40 g a meal as that is the optimal amount the body can process in 2 hours for guys. Your diet should be as clean as possible to support building those muscles combined with hard core training and a lot of water during the day. It takes plenty of work, but if you align yourself with some good principles, it is possible to build muscle as a VST post op. my exercise of choice right now is cross fit where I get plenty of opportunities to lift to max and to do rep sets that build real strength. I also do workouts at home on non cross fit days. The other recommendation is to supplement with protein powder as sourcing the calories all from food is hard. Take a high quality whey in the morning and a casein shake right before bed. Probably stuff you know already.

Can women take a casein shake also, dr wants me to put on 2 to 3 lbs of Muscle, I don't know how....

Can women take a casein shake also' date=' dr wants me to put on 2 to 3 lbs of Muscle, I don't know how....[/quote']

Sure - why not? Protein does not discriminate.

does this apply if your goal is simply to tone and not gain a lot of muscle mass?

Can women take a casein shake also, dr wants me to put on 2 to 3 lbs of Muscle, I don't know how....

Of course. It's a good protein!

Of course. It's a good protein!

Yup. - the casein Protein has really served me well. The only question is whether to try a new flavor or not. I love the Gold Standard double chocolate, but have been mentally toying with the idea of butterscotch or banana if they exist. Definitely eating casein has been nothing short of a win-win for losing weight pre six months and building muscle post six months.

What is the difference in whey protein powder and Casein? Where do you get the casein, and do you mix with milk or water?

What is the difference in whey Protein powder and Casein? Where do you get the casein' date=' and do you mix with milk or Water?[/quote']

Whey protein is fast acting where casein Proteins are slow acting. Casein protein is ideal to take at night because it is slowly converted to energy due to large molecular size and will positively impact protein synthesis over 5-8 hours, depending on dose. Whey protein is converted quickly to energy due to nano molecular size and is ideal to take first thing in the morning and/or after working out when your glycogen stores need to be replenished fast. Your whet based recovery Protein Powder also may contain bcaa and other amino acids which helps with fast protein synthesis. There are other protein powders like synth 6 that are a mixture of different proteins making it good, but not ideal, to take any time.

Fiddleman did you take casein all along or when did you start post op. I don't currently use it but have been kicking around the idea of starting. Just wondering if it's time to v or if I should wait till maintenance.

I started taking it at month 6, one month before I hit my goal. Try it out at night and see if it helps you.

Fiddleman did you take casein all along or when did you start post op. I don't currently use it but have been kicking around the idea of starting. Just wondering if it's time to v or if I should wait till maintenance.

Richard, you're close enough to goal I'd think you'd have no problem taking some casein. The whey is recommended for fresh post ops because of its fast absorption and the extreme reduced calorie intake. If you're having no problems getting in ample Protein, the some casein will do your body good, especially before bedtime.