But I am leaving after this. I can't feel right in a place like this. Especially since there is no consistency. And here is what I mean.

Lisa came back after being banned, again, with a party of people at her side talking about how "honest and real" she is and how she tells it like it is. This is a crock of shit. I have lurked on this board longer than I have been a member. And I have people that are close to me that have been here even longer. Lets go back shall we? Way back. To when all these folks who think Lisa is so "honest and real" were here an the pseudo newbs weren't. I have people telling me about how during the BigChix incedent that she swore up and down that she was NOT BigChix, and formed an all out witch hunt to trash anyone who said otherwise. We now know that is not the case. She was BigChix. Yet Lisa an her ban of cronies stood by her and attacked anyone that said otherwise. Well...guess she wasn't "honest and real" about that. Good job on sticking up for her during that time. I hope you feel righteous about it.

Now lets look at the time right before Lisa took her big break. Lisa posted some of the nastiest, most crude and hurtful things about different members on this site. She claimed that she was being stalked, and that different folks were harrassing her. Go back...look through the threads. OH! that's right! You can't. Why not? Cause Lisa is so foul mouthed and insane that entire threads were not only locked, but deleted. Not only that she is married to a man who took over her account and came on threatening the lives of a particular member. Wow. That is so cool to have a friend like that! I wish all my friends were as evil and twisted as her! I bet I could really gain a lot from that relationship. I know others who have been friends with her, and now are so fucking terrified of her that they would rather run and change their names than speak out against her. Hmmm. Sounds like a true human being. "Real and Honest". Are you proud to stick up for someone like that? Now some of the posts she was crude and evil, but not so much that the thread warranted being shut down and deleted. So go back and do a search. I bet your eyes will be opened.

But wait...there's more! Lisa comes back. She comes back to new friends. Friends that used to think she was sick and twisted as well, but pm'd people so much about it that they told them to back off. These people, feeling rejected, ran to the other sie and picked up Lisa's torch. so be it. With the friends like these... But then these people start doing Lisa's evil work right along side her. The go through the posts, taking things that people share looking for support, and turn them into ... are you ready for this... more foul and disgusting and repulsive posts that get more threads locked. Threads that have nothing to do with them an everything to o with the support of the lap band patients. They jump from thread to thread screaming obscenities and making wild accusations of other people stalking them. So Lisa gets banned. Woohoo! We all breathe a sigh of relief. OH WAIT! Not all of us. there is still this group that thinks Lisa is wholesome an pure and has never done anything but tell the truth! Was it a big shock to you when she came back and told you she was a huge raving lunatic liar this whole time? that she had deliberately made a seperate account to brow beat another member (wow doesn't that sound familiar!). No...she still had her core group. Lisa can do no wrong. Even though she was BANNED and told not to come back, she did.

So then that brings us back to the last few days. We have all been witness to her losing her mind on the boar, running from thread to thread, begging for photonut to come out and fight her. Yeah...cause a sane person can't just let it lie. And she brings people (according to her) to the site to also brow beat people. No.name, Nothanks aka PSusan, Happy Gilmore. Hmmmm.....is Bukkake777 you as well Lisa? I guess time will tell what personality shows up next. Lisa and Dody and 3loves go on a posting rampage, spreading their hate and filth all over the board till this morning they finally get banned.

Can you hear it? Its laughter. People enjoying themselves in a lisa free environment. People conversing on the boards without fear. People having fun on LBT again. What a wonderful afternoon it was! For a little while.

In comes noname and nothanks and happy gilmore. Noname and nothanks break into the threads telling everyone to "fuck off", an telling the moderators they have done a piss poor job of shutting all of us "assholes" up. And Happy Gilmore chasing photonut from thread to thread with sarcastic remarks. I guess Lisa just can't stay banned. And why not? She is so loved and cherished and adored by 5% of the LBT population! that has to count for something right? And look at all the good she has done. She started posts and gives support, and spreads rumors of members having alcohol an drug problems, and calls them fucking cunts and phucknutz and tells the entire board publicly that they can go fuck themselves. Absolutely!! Who wouldn't want that here?!?! I know life just isn't the same without a raving lunatic running around!!

But the weird thing of it all. Photonut gets banned today. No warning, which I KNOW Lisa got a thousand of. Just BAM! Banned. Ok...I can respect the "ban all involved" to make the whole situation go away. I know even Photonut respects it. She is fine with the decision and has walked away, never to pull a "Lisa" and make new names to come back and seek revenge or take others down with her. But let me ask you this... Why are noname, and nothanks, and happy gilmore still here with full priviledges? Why is Lisa, who so OBVIOUSLY is trying to stay here to wreck LBT, still here? If it is going to be "ban all involved and the problem goes away" then why are not all of them banned. I know I personally reported the posts of noname and nothanks and happy gilmore way before Photonut got banned.

I know I am prolly gonna get banned after this post, and frankly I don't care anymore. I got a lot of good support from this board, and I really enjoyed most of my time here. I made some awesome friends, and hate to say goodbye to all of them. I am going through a tough time with my band right now too, and really need the support. But I just don't feel safe here knowing that the boar is no longer even trying to keep Lisa out. I might have been next on her list. Or maybe one of my other budies would have been. She has it out for so many. It must be har to sleep at night with so many imagined enemies.

Lisa, I pray for you. I really do! I have prayed for you from the moment I read about you losing your band. And I say this to you now as a totally sincere person, with no anger or resentment. Please get some help. I worry that you are spiralling, and it scary to me. It must be terrifying to you. And I really do hope, from the bottom of my heart that you find peace. What you are doing here is counter productive, and is only truly hurting yourself. You may have "won" with photonut, but you are losing yourself in the process. I want you to know that I forgive you for the things that you have said to me. I have to in orer to move on from this. But I post this letter so that everyone else can see that you need to be steered in the right direction, and supporting these actions will only hurt you more.

Goodnight, godbless, and if anyone wants to get in touch with me they can at amy.fromlbt@gmail.com. See ya'll in the funny papers!

....and I, for one, (though I'm sure I speak for many) am very very HAPPY with the mods for making a good decision and getting rid of the ENTIRE problem.

Thank you mods; appreciated.

FunnyDuddies, this forum is hemorrhaging and if you leave, it's basically going to continue. People here need a final end to this whole thing. I have made every attempt not to be involved in this in any way, but I am jumping in with both feet here. We have lost enough people to this BS, and now...we are losing people who weren't involved. I think the best move now is for everyone to just relax....take a few minutes out to breathe...and then you will see when the smoke clears that things are back to normal. This is a fairly common occurrence on the interweb, don't be a victim of this silliness.

Besides, I just found out you are a Ron White fan, we are few and far between and need to stick together.

For the record I am with FunnyDuddies (I am a newbie--that lisa chic is psychotic) I came here because I am being banded this month and really needed the info...little did I know I'd have a study case for my psych classes (that is my major-I am a senior-finally) ha ha

Anyway that is not why I am posting here today I just wanted to say

YES I AM A RON WHITE FAN TOO!!!!!!! :clap2: He's just a little sexy too don't you think??

Ron white was funny in Vegas last night!!

Wow ....better than reality TV......but I do think this place will be calmer now

Ron white was funny in Vegas last night!!

oh sure...rub it in!! LOL I wonder if he's coming to Atlantic City.....35 mins away for me!!!

check ticketmaster !!

you can't fix stupid!!

I sure wish you wouldn't leave.. you are one of the people on here I enjoy the most

Sorry, sick and tired of this dead horse so won't respond to it and will be going off topic for a minute.....excuse me for a moment.....

Someone mentioned Ron White, my husband and I are huge fans and we are going to see him on the 15th at Massey Hall in Toronto, happy to hear that he puts on a good show.

Carol

If a person is banned they should be banned completely. Their IP address should be banned. There is no point in banning an email address. All they produce are Hydras. Cut off one head and another simply grows back.

I have great respect for the mods when they make a difficult decision to ban anyone. I have great disdain for the mods when they cannot control the ban and let hydras grow to continue to spread discord among the entire board.

Fair is fair. If you ban a person you ban them. No new email names. If LBT does not have that technical ability then perhaps it should try to get it in order to run a fair and impartial board.

For those of you who don't fully understand the IP address thing-it bans the human being from joining under any addition names.

The mods are not stupid but they act irresponsibly at times. Stop banning mere email names and start banning people.

Personalities clash. That is the way of the Titans. When there are strong and independent personalities that are all struggling. If anything, I have empathy for all of the parties involved. Because I know we are all hurting so much on a common subject (fat) yet we can't come together to support each other in our journey. I have been victim of the clash months ago, but I realize that we all have lives with different problems that build on our biggest issue (fat). We all have lived with that pain for so very long. We all have endured different embarrassments and ridicule. Why do we convey that ridicule onto other people? Why do we call names when we have hated name calling most of our lives? Why is it that we feel others must suffer if we are suffering? It is the nature of the beast that is on each of our backs. THINK people! No one is to blame. We are all here for a common reason. And each of us brings more than just the fat to this board. Rather than blame ANYONE, let's try to figure out the other issues and reach out to it. No, I am not trying to be Mother Theresa or some martyr just trying to make sense of my own "fat world" I have lived in. I am trying to make sense of other people's "fat world". And I am trying to learn to survive in both worlds.

Maybe what we SHOULD be doing rather than banning anyone is figuring out our own intervention techniques to help the person that is stuggling. Don't condemn just because you know how it feels. Don't pass judgement when judgement has been handed to you. Reach out and try and intervene and maybe YOU can make a difference in just one of those "worlds" ya know?

Do I sound crazy? Because just thinking in those terms (something I didn't use to do) makes me FEEL crazy. But at the same time, I have those around me helping me. For so long, we were "fat independent". We have a chance to be surrounded by those that are also trying to work things out. Are we all so self destructive by nature that we can't even hold our tongues and our inner hatreds and anger to let other people become part of our worlds?

Philosophical? Maybe. Just my opinion on things right now.

I share your feelings Jenna. But I do agree with Diva on that the person should be banned and not just the name. One of the banned was really nasty and self rightous! I have never had dealings with her yet she accused me and a few others of being sharks because we happened to be reading posts that she happened to be looking at too. I look at all the posts--I am trying to learn all I can before being banded. Ugh she made me sick...she was a total head case! It was all I could do not to blast her back...a person can only take so much annoying crap. I just don't know where someone things that they are so much better than someone else and they have the right to blast without getting blasted back. And people say well don't go on that board, it seems that this is talked about on every one lately. So yeah it makes some look like stalkers. I liked how you pointed out the name calling--I guess that person forgot how it feels. So sad really. You know that people like that just have to be miserable in their everyday life. Can you imagine being a cashier and having someone like that standing in your line..yikes.

Whatever...lets not go there AGAIN and pick sides. They were ALL just as bad, all just as hurtful, all just as harmful...nobody was a victim they were all instigators and drama queens. I'm just glad that justice was served and the other one was FINALLY banned too.

Lets treat everyone equally....and it was done.

THIS is done.

Was Penni banned as well?

No, and I hope she won't be.

Lap-band.... anyone care about the lap-band... bah... lap-band boring... lets keep this ball of doom and gloom rolling.

Oh and one teeny tiny side note. For the allegation that Dawg is being run by P'Nut. This is an insult and needs to not happen again. Any further such allegations will be reported. The statement was made that PhotoNut will not attempt to make any further activity on this board and to suggest that she is - is calling both her, and me, a liar.

I guess it also suggests that I am not welcome on the board anymore.

This is time to put this stuff to bed.

Of course you're welcome on the board.