Ok, I have a question. I remember when the mods were constantly locking threads and people were upset because we felt we should have a place to vent, etc. So, they created the "Rants and Raves" forum. Supposedly, it is an enter at your own risk thread. In fact, it says,

Lap-Band Talk Rants and Raves (NEW!) Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave. Enter at your own risk!

So, lock threads on other posts if need be, but it doesn't seem right to do it on this forum when it says this forum is for griping, complaining, moaning, fighting, ranting and raving. If you don't want that going on, then maybe this forum needs to be completely eliminated.

I am not trying to be difficult, it just doesn't make sense. Besides, I have PMS and am feeling a bit witchy right now, lol.

Griping is one thing... the other has gotten crazy.

I actually agree with Susan on this one.

The forum does state that it's for fighting. It doesn't state at what point it should 'stop'.

I personally don't like the concept of the "rants and raves" forum (despite spending time there on some threads).

We used to just use the lounge for the off-topic conversations and if they got 'heated' they would be locked.

I'd rather revert back to locking the heated stuff and eliminating rants and raves.

I of course am willing to deal with whatever the moderators decide. I think though that the drama running unchecked isn't healthy for LBT.

When people are getting hurt and being treated terribly, it's time to close threads. If you want to vent about about things other than people then that is fine. If you read the LBT rules you will see that that is not allowed here and will not be tolerated.

I too thought that was the reason for creating the "Rants and Raves" forum.

So . . . why WAS it created?

Maybe the Rants and Raves forum could be changed so it's threads wouldn't pop up into the 'current' or 'recent threads' area. That way, if you want to fight endlessly, mindlessly, psychotically, about . . . WHATEVER . . . you'd have to go find the fight and it wouldn't impact newcomers and members who don't want to hear it, don't give a damn, need a break, wish you'd get a life, stop picking on "my best friend," he said, she said, you said, I said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Don't get me wrong, its not like I'm not watching the train wreck as it unfolds . . . but I'm staying out of it. Not out of fear of retaliation, I can hold my own, but I think when it escalates to the level it has, its unhealthy for the community. I guess I subscribe to "What happens at fight club, STAYS at fightclub."

LOL! You all posted while I was typing blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

Wow Donna!! I'm sure those blah, blah, blah's were well worth the time. They added soo much to your post. LOVED UM!!

You are so right on!!

Wow Donna!! I'm sure those blah, blah, blah's were well worth the time. They added soo much to your post. LOVED UM!!

You are so right on!!

Ya? So were you earlier. . . but you'll notice I didn't START the thread! LOL See? I learned from you today. And isn't that what it's all about? Learning, support, forging friendships . . .

Love ya Dianechef!

LOL!!!!! Glad I helped you learn a thing or two about what NOT to do. :faint:

By the way Susan4794, you were right on in your post that was locked!! YOU GO GIRL!!!

Wow, how long did it take you to type all those "blah's"?. That must of took patience. Or did you copy and paste, lol?

I agree that what has been going on is insane here on LBT and it is like poison. I believe some people have taken it way to far. However, this forum was created with the idea that anything goes. If it doesn't, then the forum should be eliminated.

Ok, I have a question. I remember when the mods were constantly locking threads and people were upset because we felt we should have a place to vent, etc. So, they created the "Rants and Raves" forum. Supposedly, it is an enter at your own risk thread. In fact, it says,

Lap-Band Talk Rants and Raves (NEW!) Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave. Enter at your own risk!

So, lock threads on other posts if need be, but it doesn't seem right to do it on this forum when it says this forum is for griping, complaining, moaning, fighting, ranting and raving. If you don't want that going on, then maybe this forum needs to be completely eliminated.

I am not trying to be difficult, it just doesn't make sense. Besides, I have PMS and am feeling a bit witchy right now, lol.

I agree with this. I don't think it should be locked unless it is in an inappropriate spot.

Thanks, Diane. I really do think it would all go away if they would just.... go away!

This is probably going to offend some people (doesn't seem that hard to offend people on here to be honest with you) but, do words that people online say really hurt you that much??? ( I don't mean you as in anyone in particular either, just in general). If someone is "harassing" me or calling me names to my face I just wouldn't go where they were or go near them. Same here, just don't open it if it bothers you. I know it has been said over and over, but can it get any more simpler?

OOOHHH

I totally love the idea that rants and raves dont go to the top of the recently posted list!!!!!!

THen you will be right that the b and m can go on and on and no one else would see it unless they went to rants and raves!!!!

i know that is possible

This is probably going to offend some people (doesn't seem that hard to offend people on here to be honest with you) but, do words that people online say really hurt you that much??? ( I don't mean you as in anyone in particular either, just in general). If someone is "harassing" me or calling me names to my face I just wouldn't go where they were or go near them. Same here, just don't open it if it bothers you. I know it has been said over and over, but can it get any more simpler?

Well of course I would normally take the "sticks and stones" thing and wholeheartedly agree with you.

Remember though that this is a support forum. If you open up and discuss issues openly in what you feel is a safe environment, and then this is used to attack you, of course it can hurt.

We grow pretty thick skins to the "world at large" but if you open up yourself, you shouldn't have to face that being used against you.

It is actually great if you can just blow people off if they try and hurt you, but sometimes it's really hard to ignore.

My view is that there is no place for vicious attacks in this community. I think though that the current "Rants and Raves" description does grant tacit approval for behavior which would normally be prevented by LBT rules.

I know Betty stated that her view is that this behavior is unacceptable in any one of the threads and I think it important we comply with that, despite the open interpretation of what the "Rants and Raves" forum is for.