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I Posted This on the Food Thread & No One Responded...
FunnyDuddies replied to clovermeg's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
How long will you be banded by that point? And keep in mind, it should take a lot less alcohol to get you plowed than it did before. Stick to hard stuff if you are going to do it. There are fewer calories, and more alcohol content. That way you are not getting too many empty calories. I have heard lots of people getting drunk with the band. I don't think there is any harm in it as long as it is an occasional deal. Too often will sabotage the hard work. I outlined the best things to drink while on a diet in another thread. http://www.lapbandtalk.com/showthread.php?p=244160#post244160 If you are going to do it, plan ahead. Drink a lot of Water for two days before hand. Make sure that you prepare your stomach with some malox or tums before and throughout the night. And be sure to drink plenty of water during the evening too. It will help with the dehydration, help to keep you from getting sick, and help your stomach not get irritated by the booze. Hope that helps. -
No, Im not a failure. Thanks for asking.
ajoneen commented on ajoneen's blog entry in Watch out life, here I come!!
HI all. Im hearing alot of self bashing going on. Believe me I'm just as hard on myself. I think there is something happening that needs to be looked into. It is a vicious cycle. Scale stops moving, "I must be a failure". Didn't exercise for a few days "I must be a failure". Shouldn't have eaten that cookie "I'm a failure". Im not at goal "I failed" I'm a failure so I might as well; -eat all the other cookies - just lay in bed - sit and watch another mind numbing TV show -look back and beat myself up for all my short comings. Yep the motivation isn't as strong as when we first started this journey. Im not sure I will ever be that motivated again. But to say I'm a failure is just not correct. These last few weeks I've been trying to find my MoJo again. When I have a particularity good day I try to see what made it so good. Why did I bounce out of bed, work so hard with my trainer, take the dog for a walk and go to yoga class? Plus I made good food choices. So what gives? Is there a way to bottle this and reproduce it on the days Im just not getting it in gear? Because when Im at that place where I don't want to move my body or the peanut butter is looking really good willpower is out the door. It is really easy to say F it I'm just not meant to lose another 10lbs (or 1lb). So Im left to try to acknowledge what works. Really mindfully acknowledge that something is going right. Maybe even write myself notes of encouragement to the sorry self I might be the next day. Focus on the good. We all know what we are bad at. What is hard. Directing your energy to trying to figure out a negative will just keep you in that negative place. So why not find what you're good at and build on that. Do you work out more consistently with another person? Well make it your business to get a buddy or join a group. Do you need to make a commitment to something? Do a charity walk where they have training help. Like the Avon 3 Day Walk. Does telling your story about the band and your decision to get it remind you why you did this in the first place? Than offer to talk at your Drs support group or informational meeting. Be a mentor here on LBT. Do you do well with a list or goals? Than write a few and support them with an action plan of how you will succeed. Do you struggle with food choices? Start using The Daily Plate/Calorie King or whatever. Set yourself up with a menu for the next day or the whole week. Make a list before you go shopping, and stick to it. You get the idea. Find what works. Baby steps. Stop beating yourself up about what you haven't done. Be kind to yourself. -Since I choose not to have another cookie I feel empowered. -That walk yesterday really energized me, how can I fit in another one tomorrow? -I have come so far on my journey and Im still committed to a more healthy lifestyle. We all slip up. Sometimes for a day sometimes for a few weeks. Main thing is you have it within yourself to make the change. For Gods sake at some point you were motivated enough to get the band. Pat yourself on the back and shout "WooHoo!" Move forward. Tomorrow is a new day. I think you're doing a great job!! -
Like nothing happened?
chatty826 replied to Antsea13's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was banded on 10/29 and the same thing is going on with me. I am trying to limit my calorie intake and keep protein up. I get my first fill 11/30 so I am excited for that. Bandster Hell sucks! -
I would strongly suggest you track your food and calories. You may be taking in too little or more than you realize. It can be an eye opening experience and you should be able to see where changes can be made. My NUT recommends about 1000 calories per day and 60+ grams of protein per day. Also, definitely up the exercise as that will help. Since you just joined the gym did they give you any time with a trainer or do they have workout classes you can do?
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Uhh already getting frustrated
dolphintattoo replied to dolphintattoo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I do track is MFP and am staying around 1000 -1200 calls a day although my Doc doesn't have a specific calorie range. I also measure all of my food, no more than 3oz of meat plus 1/4 cup of veggies or fruit per meal generally. My NUT diet has as an example, Greek yogurt for Breakfast, Protein shake for snack, 3oz tuna for lunch, Protein Shake snack, 3oz cottage cheese plus 1/4 cup no. Starch veggie for dinner. The Protein shakes are part of the NUT diet, she requires a min of 16oz per day in this phase. My exercise is moderately more than pre surgery, I haven't been wih my trainer since Nov (I buy 6 week sessions with her). As for weighing, it's a tool I use after years of weight related therapy I have learned for me, daily weigh ins are a must, as my therapist says, it keeps it in the forefront of my mind. -
Uhh already getting frustrated
FLORIDAYS replied to dolphintattoo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
While this time is for healing... its important to count calories and measure portions as well. I fear many people forget to do that and think they are eating small amounts which may be true but they forget to count the calories. Also drink lots of Water... that made a huge difference for me. I found that even eating 1000 calories a day...if I didnt drink at least 64 oz of water i wouldnt lose weight. Also after liquids I was done with Protein shakes. The are alot of calories and do not fill you up so you may want to consider and speak to your dr about getting your protein from real food instead. -
My nutritionist said those dinners are fine - we are allowed 2400 mg of sodium a day. Even if you ate two of those dinners in a day they would probably have less sodium than that. Her program promoted those low-calorie, low fat diet dinners. But every nutritionist is different and everyone has to decide what is best for them.
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I stay in touch with a few folks from the Kaiser classes that I had to take as a prerequisite for being approved for the lapband surgery. There are a couple of people that had the bypass close to the same time that I had my banding that I was just communicating with. I've been feeling so frustrated lately with my weight being at a complete stand still over the past 2-3 weeks....but was actually pretty surprised that they both have been experiencing the exact same thing with the bypass! I know that with the bypass, you are supposed to lose much quicker and much more extreme. I have lost about 20 pounds since the band surgery..and both of them..same thing..as soon as they hit about 20 pounds after the bypass, they have been at a stand still as well. I've been changing my calories up and down to try and find the right amount as well as upping my exercising..but still nothing. I definitely see the difference in my clothes..but SHEESH...you would think the scale HAS to start moving SOMETIME! Anyway, the reason I brought that up, is that it sounds like this ugly early plateau might not just be something that people see with the banding.... One of my bypass friends said that she heard that most of the weight loss that people see is somewhere between 3-9 months out from the procedure... I'm sure HOPING I'll start seeing some movement SOMETIME soon! Anyone else hear this? That it starts to kick in more after about 3 months?
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How Many Calories 8 Months Out to Sill lose?
Lisa's Hope posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Curious how many calories post sleevers are eating 8 months plus post op to continue to lose? I started using myfitnesspal.com and set it for 1000 calories. I'm still not losing!!! I'm wondering if that is enough? Not enough? Can you post- sleevers weigh in!! No pun intended... haha Thank you! -
What Apps Help Everyone?
FLORIDAYS replied to diamante's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
On my Droid phone and Ipad I use calorie counter by fatsecret.com I havent looked at the others because its the one i started with 2 years ago... I like it because it had lots of chain restaurant's nutritional info and for home use you can scan a bar code of a box of whatever and it will give oyu the info thats printed on the box. I used mine religiously when I was losing. Now the Dr tells me not obsess with it as I maintain but I will use it for checking calorie counts if I am eating unfamiliar foods. It helps me make wise choices..For example I was at Hooters and wanted to know how many calories were in Buffalo Shrimp.... I just looked it up and saw that 6 pieces had 555 calories. I skipped that and had the steamed shrimp instead since they had 230 calories in a 1/2 lb which of course I couldnt eat all of. -
2 weeks out and gaining all the time!
BerryChic replied to Sabredy12's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You might want to check with your nutritionist about INCREASING your calories, you might be in starvation mode and need a jump start. -
I Have A Odd 10 Day Diet
caroless replied to ArtSong's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
it seems like it is just trying to get you some lower calories with a good mix of proteins carbs and nutrients... likely a normal lower cal balanced diet to keep you from the "last supper" mentality -
Utterly Frustrated
arisingphoenix replied to Songbird79's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Well Songbird it appears that there isn't much difference in side effects between the sleeve and the band, because I have had severe nausea since about 2 weeks post op. I am now just under 2 months post op. The nausea is constant and I too get the waves of "ut oh, I am gonna lose it this time" feeling. Eating, not eating, doesn't make it any better for me either. I too had a period of plateau in weight, but I think that is because your body might be going into starvation mode? And that will make it hold onto whatever calories it gets and store it. Are you on any nausea meds? -
Whoo Hoo! I can finally update my Ticker! One “ten pound head” (with my fat face) gone and nine or so more to go. I think I win the award for slowest weight loss pre-band…actually, probably not as I’ve run across quite a few others here who also weren’t allowed to lose much on their Six Months of Lingering Torture. I know, I know, you’re saying what’s so torturous with not losing much weight??!! Gee I REALLY feel sorry for you BG! I’m telling you if you’ve come to this point in your life where you feel desperate enough to get WLS, then you’re ready to make the change, and you want it to start happening sooner, rather than later. I’d describe my feelings much like an alcoholic would about ‘hitting bottom’. For me, and I think many others, we had some sort of turning point, or ‘moment’ where we hit bottom and decided to consider WLS (I’ll share my moment another time). It’s actually been hard while you’re researching and learning all this not to be able to put it all into practice. I swear it's made the time go slower too, probably because you don't have as much to do (tracking calories, exercising, planning/cooking diet meals). If you’re someone like me (professional dieter) who is always either gaining or losing it’s been weird staying about the same weight. I haven’t stayed about the same weight this long in I don’t know when! So ‘breaking’ my plan, and actually starting my stricter diet this last month of the Six Months of Lingering Torture, has been a great feeling. I started my dieting last Monday and haven’t really been cutting the calories too drastically yet (I’m planning to step things down) as I didn’t want to lose a TON of weight this month. Well, you can all call me an ‘April Fool’ if I mess this whole thing up and get denied! Time to update my Ticker tomorrow…FINALLY!...I hope I remember how! Me, Summer 2010: “Lost Weight? Me? Thanks for noticing!”
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How fast is too fast? Speed of wt loss
DELETE THIS ACCOUNT! replied to PuraVida37's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
If you're losing weight in a healthy manner- enough calories, enough Protein, not junk calories- then don't worry about the speed at which you lose. Your body will regulate itself soon enough and you'll miss the days the weight just melted off, For the record, I lost 44 pounds in the first 6 weeks after surgery and continued to lose at least 20 pounds a month for the first 6 months. Now, I am lucky if I lose 5-8 pounds a month. The lower the scale goes the slower the weight come off because your body is much more resistant to let it go. You're fine -
Perspective On Portions
mvickyway replied to Kattastic's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I feel like I eat "a lot" at times too. I hope it is that I am just adjusting to my new small portions since I still serve everything in a 1/2 cup size bowl or very small plate and I am 10 months out. I'd prefer that my calories be around 800-900 but they are usually 1000-1100 usually though -
Is Mfp Correct In Its Calculation In How Many Calories You Need To Maintain?
LindaS replied to Jenny12's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
MFP is not accurate in what I should be eating nor is it accurate when it predicts what I will weigh in 5 weeks. It wants me to eat much more than I can eat in order to maintain. It thinks I will lose much more than I will actually lose. I use MFP to help me track my Protein intake. My goal for that is 70 a day. I also use it to record exercise and Water intake. I like that I can check the amount of calories, carbs and sugar in something I plan to eat because it helps me make great decisions. I am very leary, however, about the amount of calories ingested and the amount of calories burned. I think there is too much wiggle room for these to be accurate enough for me to ever consider eating my exercise calories. I feel this way about any calorie counting and not just that at MFP. If the calorie amount is printed on something, the actual calories can be 10 percent higher or lower and still be within range, according to labeling laws in the U.S. The predictions for how much calories are being burned by exercise often depends on effort as well as size of the person, and effort is just too unpredictable. It allows for too much variance. I used MFP every day for almost two years, and I am again back to using it daily. It is a great tool, but it doesn't know everything. -
no. You'd have to eat 1750 calories above and beyond what your body needs to gain 0.5 lbs in true weight. At two weeks post-op, there's no way you're eating that much. It's probably just water retention - or else your intestines have a lot of "content" in them. Weight fluctuations are normal - if they start playing with your head too much, just start weighing once or twice a week instead of every day.
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Working Out And Calories...how Does This Work?
andersonlj replied to his2my2our4's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I believe that your body has to burn 2000 calories more than your body is taking in order for you to lose 1 pound of weight on the scale. When I did my liquid fast diet for 8 months they had a table that would tell you how many calories you body would burn each day depending on your weight. Then you would add how many calories you took in and subtracted how many calories you burned by exercise. This would give you and idea as to how much weight you should lose by weighing on the scale. I will see if I can get this info again and post it. -
I did it again today and I OMG, I'm eating and it's ok! Today I could see that I had a low calorie count (under 800, but yesterday it was 1,262). I would have never had known if I had never given it a try. Loving It!
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So i've basically been more or less the same weight for two months now and only losing 2lbs a month if i was lucky before that. i would see a little downward trend on the scale then bamn gone back to where i was. I'm not sure what to do at this point to change things up enough to make the weight drop off. I'll be honest food choices haven't been the best but over all i have stayed with in my calorie goal. i've even started taking classes in the gym to help with toning and strength so i'm working out 3/4 times a week if not more. i know my band could do with a fill i had to have some taken out as i got too tight. waiting till after my trip back home to Dublin before i do. as i don't want to risk having too tight a band while flying. what have others done to get past these stalls? i don't have a visit with the office until sep 30th so it's going to be tough going until then i'm really trying to track all i eat. and mostly i'm at the 1200 recommended cals a day feeling really down. had wanted to be at onderland for my trip home as it's scheduled on my one year bandniversary
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Good luck to you and don't be discouraged if you have to do the 6 month supervised diet. Many doctors in the United States are now instituting the six month supervised diets, nutritional classes, psychological testings, seminar's, etc. whether or not insurance companies require it. Their reputation is on the line and they want the best outcome. I have gone through it and the time goes by quick. I've been fat a long time and six more months isn't going to kill me and I lost 60 pounds in that time! If you have to do the six months supervised diet, why not put 100% into it! Go low carb 40-75 - high protein, learn to not drink with your meals, learn to chew your food slowly and thoroughly. It's what this time is for. Surgery is a lot easier on you and more successful if you can start working on behavior modifications in advance. I suggest signing up for http://myfitnesspal.com and logging in once a day to keep track of your water intake (try to get up to 64 ounces) track your food and calories and exercise. Can't exercise? Neither could I. I stood in place and walked for 5 minutes at a time and tracked it. I finally was able to fit on the Gazelle and could do 5 minutes, now I can do an hour and walk a mile and I haven't had the surgery yet. The first time I went to a surgeon for WLS, I was became depressed learning about the six month diet. I ended up quitting. Second time I went to another doctor, and I couldn't write it all down, and I ended up getting pneumonia, and kept drinking orange juice and eating pretzels and even lied about what I was eating and quit. By this time I gained about 60 more pounds for my third stint. This is a lifestyle change, not a diet or an easy-way-out, this is hard work, so I figured I would try working on changing behaviors now. I wish you the best of luck.
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Mrie, I have been struggling with thesame issue. I lost 78 lbs with my band before I really started exercising, I joined a gym Feb 1st and have only lost 3 lbs since joining. I was working out 4-5 times a week and not seeing a difference, so I cut it back to 2-3 days a week and the scale is moving ever so slightly, but I am noticing a difference in my clothes sizes. I went form a 16 to a 12 very quickly, was not in 14's very long. It will happen, it is funny how our bodies work, more people have been noticing my weght loss now in the last week then before , it is because my body is shaping. Don't get discouraged, they say muscle weighs more then fat so maybe you are building more muscle, I started off with weights and cardio and was stuck but since have only been doing cardio and like I said the scale is moving agai nslowly. We can not let thescale dictate to us or discourage us, think off all of the non scale victories you have had since banding. Could it be you are not eating enough, when I do not eat 1200 -1400 calories a day my body shuts down and goes into starvation mode and every morsel of food I put in thereafter is stored . Hang in there you wil lstart to see a difference, DO NOT GIVE UP!!!
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Havn't Lost In 2 Weeks :(
☠carolinagirl☠ replied to jakki14's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
are you eating more calories than you burn off?? if you are losing (inches)...aka clothes getting big, then you are losing no matter what the scale says or doesnt say..dont live by what the scale says....follow your eating advisement (protein, veggies, fruit) and stop worrying about the scale...losing true weight is a process over time, the same as we gained it......stop thinking what you think you are doing wrong but think about what you are doing RIGHT...as it sounds as if you are doing fine. -
Cannot sleep thinking about my weight
*Dean* replied to cutensingle's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Go to sleep! You burn calories while your sleeping