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Thank you so much for this! This is coming from a man who just bought two 28oz lobster tails and 2 6oz A5 fillets for the weekend. Surgery is fast approaching and without seeing your reply I was terrified about missing out on some stuff. It’s kinda crazy since I lost 150lb naturally before and still went out and had wine and a lobster and veggies or surf and turf - I guess I have it in my head that the portion restriction means everything is out the window but it sounds like I can go back to my old eating style with smaller portions and still be successful. Here’s hoping!
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Struggling with eating and water intake
Angelica Pena posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hey everyone! So I am 1 week and 2 days post-op, time feels so slow and it feels like I had the surgery forever ago! This week I am in my full liquids stage and I've been having a hard time ingesting cream soups, broths, and cream of wheat. I don't eat much and let most of what I pick up with the spoon fall off and I just eat/sip what's leftover on the spoon. My stomach hurts fast and I get pains in my chest and lots of gas while trying to eat. Is this normal? It has been so hard for me to take in my 50-64 fl oz because of the same reason. Please give me advice and tell me im not crazy! -
Nausea, need suggestions.
lizonaplane replied to lindseylovesdogs's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. I'm suffering from intermittent nausea in the last few weeks, but nothing like what you're dealing with. For me, if I eat a cracker or some cream of wheat, it helps a bit, as does diet soda, slightly flat. I had surgery the day before you. Good luck! -
Locs/Dreads/Dreadlocks
Flab-U-Less Forever replied to BirdLady21's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I think the reason for hair loss is similar hair loss after pregnancy. After giving birth, your estrogen levels drop significantly and more hair goes into the resting stage (the hair stage prior to shedding). Since lots of hair goes into this stage, lots of hair is shed at the same time. Normally (aka non-pregnant), I think only about 10% of your hair is in the rest/shed stage. Our bodies store estrogen in the fat cells so when you lose weight fast due to WLS, your body is flooded with estrogen. As your weight loss slows, the amount of estrogen in your body drops similar to post pregnancy. I hope you don't have a problem with hair loss and I hope I don't either! I'm just trying to make myself believe that it is only hair and it will grow back. I'll take the long term weight loss with some short term funky hair than long term obesity and long term good (ish) hair 🙂 -
I remember that frustration well during my stalls. "Whaddya mean I gained a pound a half? I hardly ate yesterday!" A few tips: 1. Increase your water. Don't rest on "enough water." If you need to, buy some bottled water and set aside four 16 or 20 oz bottles and decide "I will finish all four of these bottles today." Increase your intake and do so very intentionally. 2. On some levels, stalls will happen no matter you do. But I think you can shorten them sometimes by shocking your body out of them. Medical research indicates that our brain has a weight thermostat where it thinks we should be at (i.e. a brain deciding that someone should be at around 275 lbs). For those of us who needed this surgery, our thermostat got messed up somewhere and decided that we needed to be grossly overweight. The surgery does alter your hunger hormones and your brain is now frantically trying to decide where the thermostat should be. Routines are great post-surgery because a routine is nothing more than developing/ingraining habits. But when you are in a routine, sometimes your brain thinks, "OK, this is the weight we should be at." So by temporarily changing your habits, you can shock your brain into thinking, "OK, this isn't going to work. Lower the weight goal." Take a day and really push yourself with your walking -- try going 45-60 mins. Or only walk your 15-30 mins, but walk as fast as you reasonably can. Take a day where you only eat protein. The next day, munch on a small handful of carbs (like mini pretzels or something). Temporarily push your body out of its routine and see what happens.
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What do non-cooks eat in the 4th month?
NewMe_2021 replied to Amy Braun's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Happy to see this thread! Since having surgery in June, my 2nd child moved out leaving just my "baby" (he's 16) home with my husband and myself. Like any 16 year old, he is often gone leaving just my husband and me home for dinner. I'm quickly finding that my desire to cook complicated meals is fading fast, which, has been really surprising! I really find that I have less interest in food, mostly because I know I'm going to eat less than a half cup of it and it's just not that big of a deal what I eat now...it's just food/fuel. This feeling has been both empowering and challenging to get used to. On nights where I'm not cooking and there are no leftovers I tend to opt for: Oscar Mayer snack plates (meat, cheese and a few triscuits), pre-cooked chicken skewers I found at Costco with a veg, pre-cooked chicken or salmon patty tossed with some canned green beans, frozen meals (typically Healthy Choice or Real Good which lasts for two meals), greek salad with tuna (cucumber, onion, tomatoes, red bell pepper topped with some light dressing and fat free feta cheese), pre-cooked chicken breast bites (from costco) and a quarter of an apple or just a couple slices of good deli meat with some cheese and grapes. These are options I use for meals most days of the week. Between these and my eggs for breakfast I have no issues eating 80-90g of protein a day (which is on the high side for my program) without having to resort to a shake. Unfortunately, I am not one of the folks that can do a shake daily. I find I can do non-dairy shakes occasionally, but, more than that and my stomach starts to stage a revolt! Be persistent, try different things and hold on to the things that will work for YOU! -
November Surgery Buddies!!!
Barb929 replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
That's an amazing amount of loss! I fasted 24 hrs prior to surgery. I'm only taking my normal meds and vit c. I have been taking meds whole since surgery. I did have to change from Premier Protein to Fairlife Protein which made all the difference! It's so strange how every doctor has different pre/post op instructions. -
Walk, walk, walk. It helps get the gas out of your abdomen, which is causing much of the pain, The incisions will continue to hurt, but it will get better day by day. Don't be shy about asking for pain medication. Get up and walk even when you don't want to...especially when you don't want to. The more you walk the better it will be What you are feeling in your stomach is not hunger. You will need to relearn the true signs of hunger. In the meantime, SIP your water, SIP your protein shakes. Tiny sips until you can tolerate more. If you sip too fast or too much it will hurt in the area of your sternum. Follow the instructions and it will all be fine.
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Lost weight, but don't feel good.
lizonaplane replied to lizonaplane's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I just checked, and my heart rate is the same or higher than it was before surgery. I don't feel tired, just I don't have MORE energy, like everyone else says. My back hurts when I drive, no matter how I adjust the seat. I do drink enough most days, but since I don't like plain water any more, it's harder. I feel weak in my upper body strength, not just like I have to lie down. I guess I wasn't explaining it well. I didn't have hypertension or diabetes before surgery, although I was headed towards being prediabetic. The things that bothers me most is the discomfort after every meal (I'm probably STILL eating too fast), the hunger, and the loss of upper body strength. -
learning to let go of old eating habits
Arabesque replied to butterflywhisper's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
How you decide to maintain your weight is ultimately your choice. What I do or what someone else does may not work for you. My advice is, whatever you choose to do, make sure it is sustainable. That is, it’s a way of eating that doesn’t mean you have to make sacrifices & are able to enjoy living your life. A way of eating that is overly restrictive is destined to fail. There are always alternatives that are healthier & more nutritious. For example if you want to eat carbs, look for multi or whole grain versions & not highly processed white flours. Want pizza, try cauliflower or chicken bases or pita bread as has been suggested. There are lots of high protein low carbs pastas available too. There are snack foods that are lower in calories & higher in protein then traditional snacks. Try different cooking styles like an air fryer or oven baking versus deep frying. Some people do eat pizza, burgers, fries, etc. but they do so in small portions, occasionally. You know you best & how well you can manage eating fast foods & foods considered unhealthy. Use the time you’re losing & on a restrictive diet, to research different eating styles & reflect on your trigger foods. You may develop your own eating routine by picking & choosing from various ‘diets’. You may become vegetarian. You may switch in some vegan options or meals. You may choose to reduce certain food types from your diet like sugar or fats. You just need to develop a way of eating that works for you. Good luck. -
getting closer--- met with dietitian and insurance update
gabbykittyvsg posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I met with the dietitian yesterday. She said she was surprised when she first saw me on her schedule because I just saw her a few weeks ago for the annual visit, but then she saw my surgeon's notes. We talked a bit about how I felt about going through this process again, then we got down to business of talking about the post op diet progression. Things have changed since my sleeve 7 years ago, the diet progression is slower, which I think is a good thing. Last time the progression of full liquid to soft was rather abrupt in my opinion, but this time I'll be gradually thickening the texture of food over a few months. She mentioned baby food as an option and that got me thinking, they sell small blenders for this purpose. I found one that was used only once on Facebook Marketplace. I got it for $20, it's $60 on Amazon. My surgeon drew me a picture of the surgery and so did my dietitian who went into a lot more detail about a few specifics of how food passes through a RNY pouch vs a sleeve and how/why dumping happens. Her drawing and explanation made so many things click. I'm more determined than ever to make the most of this opportunity. Yes, I'm doing it for severe GERD, but I'd love to lose another 20-30 pounds too. I know most of the weight loss will come during the first few months when food is very limited. I called my insurance company and the rep I talked to was super nice and answered all my questions. She confirmed they got the request for preauthorization from my clinic. I'll know before Christmas!!! My insurance is generally super speedy so I'm thinking I'll know about approval in the next week or so. It can't come fast enough. Despite meds and better eating, I've had a few rather nasty attacks of reflux.- 1 reply
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What do non-cooks eat in the 4th month?
HashiHope121 replied to Amy Braun's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Every week I buy a rotisserie chicken and use that in a variety of places. I also always have a frozen bag of cooked shrimp (TJs Argentinian Shrimp) & frozen chicken skewers (Costco) in the freezer, which just need to be defrosted and warmed. Some of my regular "no cook" meals are: chicken & green beans, chicken & roast squash (pre cut), Shrimp & green beans, chicken veg soup (TJs). They probably sound boring, but I enjoy them and they all end up low carb & under 200 calories for plenty of food. A no cook splurge = Amys burritos (so good! but adds up fast). (For breakfast I always have coffee w/ unflavored Unjury protein powder.) If you are willing to cook a little, I also sometimes make Banza pasta & shrimp or cauliflower latkes (TJs). And at the end of the week, I turn the left over veggies & chicken into soup and freeze that. I will also note that I keep canned veggies on hand. I know they are not as nutritious as fresh, but they also aren't bad (if low sodium, as I understand) and they are still low calorie. In a pinch they are better than pasta or crackers or a lot of other options. I often don't cook fresh fast enough and I hate seeing them go bad. Hope that helps. I appreciate seeing everyones suggestions, they help me a ton. -
Pre Op Liquid Diet - stomach upset
ladygodiva replied to ladygodiva's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
They also allow Atkins advantage, SF Carnation Instant Breakfast, or Glucose Controlled Boost. They told me to pick one kind and stick with it...but ugh! Maybe it's the soy in Slim Fast. I have always had a hard time with soy. I may try another brand for a day and see if it helps. All this SF stuff is blech. -
Pre Op Liquid Diet - stomach upset
ladygodiva posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
So...I am on day 3 of my liquid pre op diet (surgery 12/23). And I swear those slim fast shakes are causing me stomach pain and bloating. I thought I would be hungry all the time, but no my stomach feels bloated. Anyone else experience this? As for the hunger factor, its not as bad as I dreaded. I am allowed to have 4 shakes a day, broth, SF jello and SF popsicles. So far I am doing okay. Aside from the bloating...maybe that is helping to keep the hunger at bay! Any thoughts/experience appreciated. -
Nervous for the next stage!
Arabesque replied to PCOS_Mama94's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Plans are different & so are you. Some do stay on a stage longer because they’re just not ready to move on & that’s ok. Make your first purées really sloppy & runny or go for thick soups at first so you get used to that denser, thicker texture vs a liquid. Don’t give up on a food you struggled with. Our tummies can be a bit fussy & temperamental at first. Or sometimes things just taste disgusting. Try it again in a week or two & then in another week or so if need be. You’ll even find your tummy suddenly says no way to something you’ve eaten regularly but is fine with it again two days later. I used to say my tummy was like a petulant two year old child throwing random temper tantrums. That tightness across your chest is your restriction. You don’t usually start to feel until you’re on more solid food. It’s a signal you’ve eaten too much, too fast or eaten something too dry or too coarse, etc. You’ll work out your triggers - it’s a bit of trial & error. Stalls happen. The first one often is about week 3 +/-. Think of it as your body just needing a break. It’s been pretty stressed & needs to shut down for a 1-3 weeks. It does not mean you’re doing the wrong thing or failing … unless you’ve wildly gone off plan. It’s possible you’ll experience more than one stall along the way. You won’t put on weight by starting on the next stage unless you suddenly start eating huge portions (pretty darn impossible with your small tummy unless you put in a lot of effort to stretch it) or making poor food choices. You won’t be consuming more calories than your body needs to function. That’s the only way you’ll put on weight. And I’m not talking about our normal fluctuations ( fluid, constipation, life, etc.) As long as your general weight loss trend is downwards you’re doing great. It’s ok to go at your own pace. You’ll do fine. -
3 Meals vs. 6 "Meals"
Arabesque replied to LouLouM's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Were you given a caloric goal? If so you could split daily total of calories over smaller meals or split your meal portions into smaller sizes. I added yoghurt, a yoghurt drink, cheese or a little fruit as an afternoon snack I think from soft foods. Check with your dietician for suggestions. The foamies shouldn’t affect your tummy but still are something you should try to avoid simply because they’re not pleasant. Work out your triggers & try to avoid them. (Mine are too dry, too coarse, too fast or dehydrated.) Are you taking a ppi/esomeprazole? That will help with the heartburn (reflux) & the hunger pains & rumbling tummy which, like the reflux, are caused by too much stomach acid & aren’t real hunger (unlike we were always told). Good luck. -
How did you figure out if you had dumping syndrome?
Arabesque replied to DaisyAndSunshine's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The stuck feeling is usually associated with the foamies: just the first stage. For me I feel like something’s stuck, then get a hacking cough to try to bring it up, start producing a thicker saliva (how it got its name) which I spit up, then I regurgitate the last thing I ate. After there’s pretty instant relief whereas dumping lasts for ages & knocks you about. Sometimes I experience the full gamut of the foamies stages, other times I only get part way through the stages. Well that’s how it is for me. I don’t get them very often at all The tightness across your chest (like you have to thump your chest to relieve it) is your restriction. It will kick in if you eat too fast, too much, eat too coarse or too dry food, etc. On a bad day I sometimes get the restriction & then a couple of stages of the foamies. We have slightly different experiences of dumping & foamies attacks & for what might set it off (your triggers). I just discovered being dehydrated will set off the foamies for me. -
With foamies there’s a feeling of something being stuck. You produce thick saliva which you spit up (hence the name) & then regurgitate (not vomit sort of bubbles up) of the last thing you ate. I often get a hacking cough to begin as if trying to bring up what’s stuck. Usually caused by coarse or too dry food, eating too fast … or being dehydrated as I discovered. It was actually a good afternoon & evening: a farewell to a former work colleague & a catch up with people I hadn’t seen in about 3 yrs (pre surgery). The bad was that the venue had horrendous food choices, predominately pre mixed high sugar drinks, a storm came up & prolonged rain which left us stranded in an outside area & then a long wait for taxis/ride shares.
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Nervous for the next stage!
Lifestyle Changer replied to PCOS_Mama94's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had to wait until 3:weeks to have puréed. I was on liquids and then full liquids so that my stomach would have a chance to heal and adjust to what I was taking in. 5:days post op for puréed foods just seems really too fast to be introducing puréed foods to your stomach. In my opinion I don’t think your stomach is ready to handle a big change to food that quickly. I’m sorry if my opinion may upset you. Bit through my weight loss program including working with my nutritionist this is not a good choice at only 5 days post op. -
3 Meals vs. 6 "Meals"
The Greater Fool replied to LouLouM's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My program was also 3 meals a day, no protein drinks, no snacks, no exceptions. This was to be the program for the rest of my life and I was ok with it, or I wouldn't have done the surgery. We made a commitment and we stick to it. Period. Good Luck, Tek . . . ... until circumstances and requirements changed. When I was binge running at between 70 and 90 miles a week, my meals were upped to four per day, then five, then six, and I was still loosing too much too fast. Then we added a protein drink. So, no exceptions until there is a requirement for exceptions. Your situation reasonably could require a temporary adjustment. Until you can eat a full meal it may make sense to split it in half then eat each half a couple hours apart. It would address your hunger issue, your not eating enough issue, and your energy issue. Be careful that once you get to being able to consistently eat a full meal that you either adjust back to base plan, or commit the the six meal plan (of half meals). Both will work, mixing them could create problems. From my perspective the six meal thing felt like I was eating all day long and it was surprisingly annoying. Good luck, Tek -
Hi everyone. I was sleeved on November 30th and am in the pureed phase. Ever since the surgery, I have been hungry. The surgeon and dietitian want me eating 3 "meals" a day. Naturally I get full on very little. The problem is that in between the meals, I am starving. Hangry. Weak. I go back to a classroom full of hormonal preteens excited about winter break next week and I simply will not have the stamina on so little calories. I am drinking about 50 ounces of water a day. I wish that in between breakfast and lunch I could have a tiny bit of cottage cheese and in between lunch a dinner maybe a bite of hummus. Would this really stall weight loss or interfere with my stomach healing? Is anyone on 6 meals vs. 3 during this phase? On the subject of stomach healing, yesterday I was so so hungry that I ate my dinner too fast, had the foamies and heartburn, and finally threw up. Misery. Will this damage, or stretch, the stomach (I feel irrational asking this, but I am a worry wort)? Thank you.
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Nervous for the next stage!
catwoman7 replied to PCOS_Mama94's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
you won't start gaining as long as you follow your program's guidelines. there's a chance your stomach may not be ready to move on (most of us can - but some can't progress to the next stage quite as fast as others). So if your stomach rebels, just back up to the liquid stage for a few more days and then try again. -
Hi everyone! Ive been on liquids since my surgery date 3 weeks ago. Surgeon said puree would be find after the first 5 days. I did try some smooth cottage cheese and found if i ate too fast i would have some centralised pain like just below my sternum. So a couple days ago i was cleared to start soft foods! Im almost freaking out! Scared to start it! Will it agree with me? What if ill start gaining? As much as im so over liquids, im just so nervous to move to soft foods. Ive lost 11kg since the start of pre op, so in about 5 weeks. Im at 92.6kg now and in the past its always been around this weight ill get stuck and cannot move any lower no matter what i do. Been doing everything right, id just be so upset if i saw the scales go the wrong way so early on in this journey. Has anyone else been nervous to move to the next stage?
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Now I’ve had the foamies a few times in my 2.5yrs from just the hacking cough of something feels stuck & a little saliva to the full regurgitation of whatever I’ve eaten. Each time the foamies related to eating something too coarse, too dry or too fast. Last night the coughing started like something was stuck but I actually hadn’t eaten for hours (8hrs - no lunch no diner - long story). Was understandably hungry so grabbed some chicken when I finally got home. Still coughing. Few minutes later, coughing worsens, salvia starts coming up & then the one bite of chicken I’d had bubbled up. Thing was it wasn’t the chicken, that was just the final straw. I believe the real cause was that I hadn’t really had anything to drink either (same long story). I was way below goal & was likely dehydrated. Moral is seems you have to stay hydrated to avoid the foamies or the potential foamies too. So we keep learning new things even when we think we’ve a handle on what doesn’t work for us.
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How did you figure out if you had dumping syndrome?
SleeverSk replied to DaisyAndSunshine's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I dont think that was dumping, you just ate to much to fast and made yourself vomit. You need to slowly move to solids. 3 weeks is early to have hair loss are you taking vitamins etc?
