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My 5 year old left me holding his vanilla frozen yogurt while he played at the kids play area at the mall. I took one tiny taste, and it disgusted me, it was way too sweet. I'm only 7 weeks out. I haven't had cravings for anything sweet or junky. My cravings are for things like an egg, or filet mignon, lol. Sent from my SM-N976V using BariatricPal mobile app
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Dumping for 4 days straight? Need advice.
Sunnyway replied to HajEddie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
One assumes that the user will be drinking as much water as they can tolerate in addition to protein shakes.. I agree, powdered PB2 could be substituted, but there really is no need to reduce calories during the first couple of weeks after surgery. Later on, yes. (BTW, I did not create this recipe, I copied it from The Bariatric Guide and Cook Book as an example of how one could make their own protein shakes._) -
Honestly, you may not want it. I'm 8 weeks out, and I have had no desire to eat a number of things that typically I would have been salivating for once I thought of them. I'm sure at some point they will become appealing, but right now, not so much and I am really hoping this sticks because it makes it all easier.
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I have really not craved anything at all to be totally honest. When I make up my mind to do something I go all in and will not stop until it is done. Just focus on the types of foods you CAN eat. After the first couple weeks when you get into soft foods there are enough choices to keep you satisfied. Some foods even when on solid foods will not go down right and you will have that pain in your chest from dry or food that is too large....or if you eat too fast. You will get into a niche of foods you tolerate well and introduce new foods every now and then.
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I have personally not even done that. I am about 6 weeks post surgery and I am committed to sticking to my plan. I don't want to introduce any bad habits or food obsessions which could get me off track. A taste here, a taco there, a scoop of ice cream etc. keeps going and going. Once I started dropping the pounds I became more motivated to keeping the loss going. You could sit a donut in front of me and I would not even touch it.
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Here come the dumb questions and there are many more where these came from!
vikingbeast replied to Maroux's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
A1 - If you are on extended-release medications, they'll need to be switched to standard or immediate release. I went from 150 mg Wellbutrin XL once a day to 75 mg Wellbutrin IR twice a day, and am about to drop the evening dose. I feel fine. A2 - Yes, but you can only take acetaminophen/paracetamol which is Tylenol in North America and Panadol elsewhere. You will be able to swallow pills, just perhaps one at a time at first. B1 - I was able go up and down stairs within hours after surgery. If your incisions hurt, take a pillow to brace. Ask your anesthesiologist for what's called a TAP block, it's like an epidural for your abdomen and lasts about 18 hours which is enough time to get used to stuff. B2 - An elevated bed will actually help because you don't have to squat down to get onto and off of it. But you could buy a little heavy duty stepstool if you want. Just make sure it's stable. B3 - You absolutely can wipe. Laparoscopic incisions are small. And, honestly, you'll probably be constipated after surgery and won't need to as often, especially if you are on opioid painkillers which back you up. The good news is as you lose weight (which happens fast) you'll become more flexible. A month out and I can wash my entire back without needing a long-handled brush. B4 - Varies by surgeon. Mine said I could shower immediately, but to avoid scrubbing the incisions, just gently wipe them with a separate cloth. C1 - Depends on what you do. I have two jobs; the desk job I was back to after two weeks (and could have done one if needed); the outdoor job I'm still not back at because my surgeon wants 6 weeks. C2 - I was cycling (stationary / assault bike) 2 weeks after surgery with the blessing of my surgeon. Ask anything, really. That's why we're here. -
I would say you have a 99% chance of being just fine after the surgery. I was back to work in a week and a day and was just fine. If you are sitting all day then make sure you get up every now and then and take a quick walk to stretch things out. Not a huge deal really. Ask your surgeon, but he may recommend compression stockings if you are going to be sedentary for long periods of time.
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Dumping for 4 days straight? Need advice.
Sunnyway replied to HajEddie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree it seems to be a lot, but remember that in stage 1 this is the only food consumed during the day. The whole idea is to get some nutrition inside the body without too much concern about calories or fats. After a week or two or liquid protein, one can be more particular about these things. Protein and fluids first! Make sure that peanut butter has NO ADDED SUGAR. -
Here come the dumb questions and there are many more where these came from!
lizonaplane replied to Maroux's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with everything the above responses have given. I would add a few from my personal experience: I have bipolar disorder and have to take 10 pills a night. I took them the night I had my surgery (surgery was 1300). It was a bit challenging because I could only take tiny sips of water, but I managed. The first week after surgery, it would take almost an hour to get all ten pills down, but now a month out, I can take about 3 pills at a time (before I could take all ten) and be done in about 8 minutes. I didn't find it hard to wipe compared to how hard it was to sit up from a lying down position. My bed is low, so can't answer that part, but expect pain on sitting up/changing positions for the first week. I have been working from home and I went back to work after two weeks. I had really bad brain fog for the first two weeks and didn't do anything except stare at the wall. At a month out, I am just a bit tired, but mostly bored. Good luck! -
Here come the dumb questions and there are many more where these came from!
Officially Not Fatty Matty replied to Maroux's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Welcome to the club! It’s an exciting time for sure and you will have plenty more questions, so don’t ever be shy or apologize, we live for these kind of posts :) Meds: with a sleeve you’ll be fine. Some doctors will say crush it early on, many of us are given pills (antibiotics or nausea or acid reducers or all) right in the hospital, so it is my personal belief that any doctor that says no pills for X days is just being extra cautious - not that there’s anything wrong with that. NSAIDS…. Geeze you’re trying to start a fight aren’t you? Lol it’s ok. There is definite reasons to limit nsaids as much as possible but the occasional one likely will be fine. Use acetaminophen when possible. Many of the other questions will be difficult to answer accurately. Recovery time does vary. I would have been capable of any of those just a day or two post op, some people need a couple weeks. It also depends on your current physical condition, if any of those things are already difficult for you now, it will not be easier so soon post-op. I would aim for 3-4 weeks for the bike just to be safe. Wait until you lose weight and you have that “ahahahah!!!” moment where you realize how much easier wiping is in general. I can reach all sorts of places I couldn’t before :) oh… showering. They had me shower in the hospital the next morning. I had bandages on the small incisions and it wasn’t a problem. Their requirement was no submersion (pool, tub, etc) for four weeks for me. Keep asking! And again, welcome, it’s an exciting time and we all are wishing you the best, fast and easy recovery and weight loss. -
I went today for my cardiac consult. Is it normal for the cardiologist to want to do LOTS of testing? They are doing a echo of my heart, making me wear a halter monitor for a week, and doing a stress test. If I wind up having congestive heart failure, will bypass potentially be off the table?
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Here come the dumb questions and there are many more where these came from!
Arabesque replied to Maroux's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
No dumb questions here ever. So all good. Ask away. 🙂 A - Meds 1- will depend on your surgery & where your meds are absorbed. Check with your surgeon & your specialist. It just may mean a switch of meds. 2- The rule is no NDAIDs for pain management. Burt in saying that I have a sleeve & my surgeon gave me the ok to take a single NSAID on the rare occasions I need to once I was in maintenance. In the last two years I’m still on the same box. B - Living alone 1- I live alone in a two story house. Stairs were no problem. Actually walked up & down them a couple of times a day from when I got home as part of my gentle exercising. 2- I have a high princess bed (plus I’m short) so I always have to do a little hop onto my bed. I didn’t have any issue but I was also able to sleep on my side & half twisted onto my tummy. It is individual & will depend on how you heal, your surgery, etc. Maybe buy a step so it’s easier to get in & out of your bed. Otherwise some use a recliner. 3- No issues at all but as I said above I could twist pretty easily. Your starting weight may be factor & again your surgery. You may find you don’t need to go for a few days - the constipation! 4- I took a shower the day after my surgery. It was glorious. Took my own shower gel to hospital so I didn’t smell like antiseptic & all ‘hospitally’. C - Work 1- pain was basically gone by day 4. But the brain fog for me was not good. Plus my blood pressure was very low. Was very doughy in the head in the morning then in the mid afternoon. I started back at work part time after 4 weeks. I do tend to take a long time to recover from everything - just me. A friend went back to full time work after a week no or is. Another took 3 weeks. 2- This will depend on your recovery. Talk to your surgeon too as they will likely have some guidelines re activity. As another consideration, you will have restrictions on how much weight you can carry, pull, push, etc. for the first 4 weeks or so. Good luck. -
On my 2 week pre op liquid diet
Sunnyway replied to Philophobia's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
If your liver is too big, they will close you up and not do the WLS. Do your liver shrinking diet. If you must have the chicken, do it NOW, not after you start the protein shakes, There is a withdrawal period while doing the liquid diet. If you interrupt it, you will suffer through it again. My surgeon doesn't require two-weeks of protein shakes, but I have been on a high-protein/low-carb diet for six months. I only have to do two days of clear liquids just before surgery. I just had a CAT scan, this week so he can SEE how big my liver is -
Dumping for 4 days straight? Need advice.
Sunnyway replied to HajEddie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Fruit juice is a no-no for ever more. It is liquid sugar. Use whole fruit and berries in your protein shakes. Whole fruits and berries contain fiber which helps metabolize carbohydrates. Using them eliminates the need for sugar and sugar substitutes. Once you are weaned off sugar and sugar substitutes, fruit will taste remarkably sweet! There are recipes for home-made protein drinks online and in bariatric cookbooks. Here is one from The Bariatric Diet Guide and Cookbook, called "The Elvis": It makes 12 oz. You will only be able to drink about 1 oz at a time at first. If you don't drink it all in one day, you can save it for the next. I like variety, so I would switch it with other flavors. 12 oz contains 31g protein, but you can add unflavored protein powder. One scoop of Genepro unflavored protein powder would add 30 g protein. 1/2 C plain Greek no-fat yogurt 1 large ripe banana 1/2 C ice 1 Tbsp unsweetened cocoa powder 1/4 C natural creamy peanut butter 1 small handful baby spinach Optional: 1 scoop unflavored protein powder In a high-speed blender, combine all ingredients. Blend for 2 to 5 minutes until smooth) NOTE: Be sure to use an all-natural peanut butter that contains only Peanuts and salt in the ingredients. The High Protein Bariatric Cookbook says: "The basics of a protein shake include about 1 cup plain nonfat Greek yogurt, or 1 cup milk mixed with 1 tablespoon protein powder and either 1/2 cup frozen fruit or 1 tablespoon nut butter. Then for flavor ad about 1 teaspoon of extract, cocoa powder, and/or flavored sugar-free syrup or low- to no-calorie sweetener. ...If you make your own protein shakes, the flavor profiles are limitless, and you will know the ingredients going into them. Then, when you have symptoms, it will e easier to identify what the possible cause may be. However, there may be times when a prepackaged protein shake will be more convenient, so do what works for you and hooks you stuck ti tier nutrition goals." The Lifebridge Health website contains about 30 protein shake recipes. Google "make bariatric protein shakes" to find many more recipes. Your protein shakes count toward your daily fluid intake. During the first few weeks of recovery fluid intake is your most important priority. Consume protein as you can. "You MUST get your fluids in. You SHOULD meet your protein goals. If you CAN, take your vitamins." Matthew Weiner, MD, The Bariatric Diet Guide and Cookbook. -
8 days Post-Op... Incisions are itching! HELP!
Smanky replied to Susie Girl 75's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I religiously itch after a skin injury. My tattoos itched to hell when healing, and so do my incisions when I've had surgery. I was itchy a solid two weeks. It's totally a healing thing. I took antihistamines and carefully applied a scent free lotion around the incisions and tried to distract myself. It's normal, but so very irritating! I'm also mildly allergic to bandage adhesive, so I suspect that added to how long I was itchy for. Short answer - I feel you! -
Did you taste buds change immediately?
SummerTimeGirl replied to AngieL11282's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I'm 5 months out now and my taste buds never changed. I can still eat all the things I used to and more (more meaning I now eat fruit, rice, whole wheat, etc. things I used to avoid because it made me gain or stall in my diet). -
Do you see your surgeon annually?
The Greater Fool replied to JessLess's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
I stopped monthly visits after 1.5 years, then about three appointments about 6 months apart to talk about eating during my binge running phase. At these appointments, my plan was modified to be 4, then 5 meals a day. Then adding a protein drink. I felt like I was eating all day long and after getting used to 3 meals a day it was not a pleasant feeling, oddly enough. I then started the annual physical routine with my PCP where they would do the appropriate blood work and I did my annual weigh in since I don't weigh at home. Good luck, Tek -
Starting actual foods
The Greater Fool replied to Aracellyxo's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I had 6 weeks of puree, then the adventure of normally textured food, where broccoli was shaped like broccoli, lettuce like lettuce, chicken like chicken... well, chicken parts. Pureed was easier than food because that last bite wasn't quite as hard a wall as the last bite with food. So, it was a learning process again to know when to stop before the infamous 'one bite too much.' So I ate a little slower, chewed a little better, and honestly it took an amazingly small number of times doing it wrong to start getting it right. As time moved forward as it inextricably does, things got easier and mistakes grew further and further apart. So many things change where the last bite is. If I'm tired, or sick, or stressed, or upset, my limits are tighter. If I'm not aware it will be a problem, but rarely the rush to the bathroom and spit up variety. I ran into the 'one bite too many' syndrome more often when I was in a good mood, sharing a meal with friends having a good time, absorbed in conversation not paying attention to the mechanics of eating. Eventually you learn to balance this out also. Really, we all build up regular foods as something to be feared. You read what I wrote up to this point and it can sound like a horrible mine field. Really it is just another step in the process, as hard or easy as we make it. The more worried I was, the worse I did. When I just relaxed and did it I did much better. So, just relax, pay attention, and push forward. Good luck, Tek -
If all goes well I can't imagine you will have much trouble. Grad school is pretty cool about unobtrusive food and drink, at least it was back in Bedrock [It's a Flintstone's joke you whippershappers! Look it up! Get off my lawn!] Even bathroom breaks wouldn't be noticeable if you can resist the compulsion to sit at the front of the room. I would have been whining in bed weeks after sinus surgery, Oh, jeezus. And a C-section?!? Just put on the tights and cape already. Enjoy your journey, you will rock this. Good luck, Tek
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Hey y’all! I need some advice. I am getting the sleeve on December 6. December 30 I will fly to another state for my first semester of grad school. It’s a hybrid program, so I’ll be on campus for 9 days from 12/30-1/8 and then home again until June. I am SCARED to have surgery and then go to class so soon after. It’ll be sitting mostly and I get my own hotel room, but I don’t know what to expect. Am I crazy to try this? Any tips? For reference, I am 30 and have recovered well from surgery before. I was back at work a week after sinus surgery and able to move normally less than a week after my c-section in January. Thank you!!
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Here come the dumb questions and there are many more where these came from!
The Greater Fool replied to Maroux's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
A-1 You will still take your meds. If any are time-release they will likely convert to to immediate release as time-release is iffy with RNY; A-2 Most doctors have no issue with acetaminophen but some will not like NSAIDs like aspirin at least in the short term. NSAIDs are a ready argument around here, some folks believe they are off the list forever, others that reasonable non-constant use is OK. Pick your sides. B-1 Most likely. B-2 Most unlikely. Do you have a recliner? It might be useful for a couple days. B-3 If you can now you will be able to after perhaps with mild pain. B-4 Your Doc will tell you. You won't smell to bad when you are finally able to shower, unless B-3 is problematic. C-1 There are stevedores that worked the dock the night after surgery and home bound people that couldn't manage to get from room to room. You won't know until you know. Probably a week or three. C-2 I would imagine you would be healed enough to ride within a month, maybe a couple weeks, more or less. Precise estimates are my job, sorta maybe. A lot of this stuff is personal experience. The Doc is also a good resource on all of the stuff, don't be afraid to engage him/her/it/them/xi. Now, let's read all the conflicting answers together, shall we? I'll get the popcorn. Good luck, Tek -
Online "support group" not very supportive
Esi replied to ColieCallwell's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
So sorry to hear that! 😥 Protein shakes made me vomit, for real. I tried drinking them for a couple weeks post-op since I somewhat liked them before surgery. But then said no, and got protein through other sources. I now use unflavored protein powder for 45g a day, in addition to food sources, and have done well with weight loss. I would say you can definitely be successful without the shakes! And your weight loss sounds great! -
Dumping for 4 days straight? Need advice.
HajEddie replied to HajEddie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thanks, Sunnyway what do I use for the homemade protein shake, liquid, water? Do you put whole fruit and blend or fruit juice? Sorry for being so food incompetent but I got no nutrition counseling from them. It’s weird that they don’t have one. One guy I went to as part of the selection process I had to do mandatory nutrition classes for a month before he would even consider me, even as a self payer, which I was. I found a bariatric nutritionist on my own who I will start seeing next week. I am so afraid of eating anything that isn’t clear nasty broth and water but I have to start getting more nutrients, minerals and vitamins. Thanks for the suggestion! -
I have been lurking for a while and using everyone's experience on this forum to build up the courage to do the surgery. I am nearly done with the pre-op appointments, and then I'm having a duodenal switch (the newer single kind). I quickly ran into a big snag when I saw the pulmonologist to be cleared for surgery. He insisted that I stop my endometriosis medication (progesterone only) for 3 weeks before and a month afterwards. I have stage iv endometriosis and am disabled without the medication, can barely walk due to pain and usually end up in the ER every month. He just absolutely refused to engage with my questions about how to be smart about blood clots, and also not undo years of work to get to a level of "able to live with endo". I understand the risks of blood clots but he just wouldn't even listen to the risks if I stop either. I spoke with my gynecologist and she thought that it was fine to be on it. She really blew me away with her support, she called that pulmonologist and got him to agree that the risks of me being off meds outweighed the blood clot risk. I nearly cried to have doctor advocate for me, especially to another doctor on my behalf. So now I can look forward to the surgery! I am dreaming of doing it before the end of the year (since I've already hit my deductible and out of pocket max) but it's beyond a long shot probably. Thanks everyone for sharing here on the forum, it's been a great help.
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Onederland!
blackcatsandbaddecisions replied to blackcatsandbaddecisions's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Best way to break a stall is time… haha I wish I had a better answer but there it is. I’m now down to 172 and I’m slowing down so much but still slowly making my way to goal. Still feel proud every day to have a weight that starts with a “1” instead of a “3”.
