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who are the go-to mx surgeons now?
MichelleS16 replied to amy_again's topic in Mexico & Self-Pay Weight Loss Surgery
Dr. Jalil Illan and Hospital BC! He is a Master Surgeon and the hospital where he performs his surgeries is a Center of Excellence. The packages are all-inclusive and the staff is English speaking https://hospitalbc.com/ https://hospitalbc.typeform.com/to/sxuEx5 -
Are y'all like this?
FluffyChix replied to JRT Mom's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Nope. Before surgery I was obsessed with food and eating and eating large volumes. Now, I do 2 no-brainer 5 minute meals...snacks as needed. And then an easy dinner. I usually cook the protein 1-2x for the week and then morph dinners into lucky leftovers. So meals are like 10-15 minutes from fridge to table for 2. If I'm not hungry, I skip whatever meal was planned and move along little dogey. Example: B1 - Protein Latte x 3 (cuz it's mah jam and I love it) Breakfast - Egg/ham/light cheese/salsa steamed egg (<5mins total prep and cooking) Lunch - Turkey Cheese Wrap with arugula, po, rbp and WF Italian dressing + baby carrots or grape toms Dinner - Made IP French Chicken last week and also have leftover enchilada sauce, so this week am making Tex-Mex Chicken Lasagna Boats with mixed salad side. BS - Protein banana puddin' if needed. -
Embrace the Stall
Sheribear68 replied to Inner Surfer Girl's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
So this is something I think some of you might be interested in: I had 3 major stalls in my first 10 months PO. In spite of that, I managed to hit GW in my 8th month. Then at 10 months out (which was during the holidays) I found myself at the same weight for a month and I was thinking I was in maintenance. I was 5-7 pounds BELOW GW, so the maintain didn’t bother me. I put my scale away bc I wanted to just enjoy my new body and lifestyle and told myself I’d use how my clothes fit as a guide. Then about 2 weeks ago I was taking a selfie and noticed my clothes were baggier than I remembered. Got on the scale and was shocked to discover another 6 pound loss. During that 3-4 week period of time, I ate and drank with reckless abandon. I most surely didn’t “earn” that 6 pound drop. And since then I’ve dropped another 2 pounds while trying to INCREASE my calories. Stalls are weird and they can take you by surprise. That last one disguised itself as maintenance. -
21 DAYS SINCE MY RNY AND MY SURGEON CLEARED ME TO EAT WHAT I WANT.
Slimming Down Steve replied to Slimming Down Steve's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I personally wasn't loosing weight till I took my calories from 600 to 800 calories a day then finally the scale started sliding down. As far as salty, I make my own smoked beef jerky so the salt content is minimal compared to store bought jerky. I still have a lot of muscle mass under my fat layer, it needs to be fed also so I can keep it. I dropped 57lbs or so before surgery. So what I'm doing is working for me and my surgeon. Everyone is different. -
Did anyone succeed in friends and neighbors not finding out..
Krimsonbutterflies replied to newchange16's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It is such a personal experience and very personal business. I have been living a very healthy life and eating less, drinking my protein shakes and etc. In my office we have maybe 6 wls employees, 2 in my immediate work area that tells everyone all of their business and displays all of their equally bad dietary habits. All of that to say, my coworkers have even more to say because they interact with those 2 and have first hand knowledge of what the process looks like. As much as those 2 get on my nerves, it annoys me to hear people say, "they took the easy way out!" or "you're not losing weight the lazy way like them!!!" I always have to stop those people from spreading false information and for not understanding that isn't easy. To add insult to injury, it's generally another obese person speaking ill of another obese person. Enough of my rant, that just takes me there with anyone. If it were easy, we wouldn't be plagued with an alarming rate of obesity. Getting back to my point, I've observed my Assistant monitoring my trash and asking me if I've been eating, (wth), staff yelling out she can't eat like us (because I decline), oh you think your cute in your clothes, why are you dressing up everyday, you can't possibly wear that size with all of that rump back there (and took her hand and tapped me on my butt), your getting thin ( I'm not even sleeved yet) being out sick for a few days is good for you--because you've slimmed down and the last one...your slimming down, you can at least say thank you (I didn't ask for a compliment, but thanks) ....This is all just coming from my immediate work area and a small group of women. I will not share my wls with these gossipy mean hens. They are going to speculate and talk crap about me either way, so have it. I have so many other things to contend with in life. I love myself, I'm at peace with my decision and I don't have space in my realm for BS. This is just the people who I work with, I haven't even shared the beliefs from some of my friends, family and guy friends and their negative views regarding wls. I have one life, one chance and I choose me.💜 How does everyone deal with the chaos or the reactions when people first see you who don't know you've had wls? -
A Tale of Two Arm Lifts (rs & ms.sss)
ms.sss replied to ms.sss's topic in Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery
** Irrational Vent Alert ** So, am gonna be 1 month post op tomorrow and figured it was a good time to frustrate and annoy myself by taking out the measuring tape that I'm supposed to be leaving in the drawer. I mean I've been in a good mood for too long, right? Geez. 🙄 The two areas that have been the bane of my existence since PS are my waist and upper thighs. And measuring them this morning fed (irrational) fuel to the fire. My waist continues to be bigger than pre-op. While it has de-swelled by 4 inches since the highest measurement, it continues to be bigger than pre-op and won't allow me to button up my pants comfortably. I am sick of wearing leggings and joggers, with a special hatred of the leggings due to my swollen abdomen poking out giving me a pregnant look from the side....which gets worse when I have food in my stomach. And my effing thighs are getting BIGGER. I measured +1" a week after surgery, and this morning its up another inch. WTF. I am telling myself its because my swelling is moving downwards. That makes sense, right????? Though I think the TT itself may be partly the cause of the initial increase in size: perhaps the thigh "meatiness" moved up as a result of the yank and is now concentrated higher, which makes me think this is not completely a temporary thing. Arg. Anyhoo, @mousecat88, @sillykitty, @okayestmom... how are you finding the progress of the de-swelling in your stomachs? Have you noticed any thigh changes? On another note, have you purposefully adjusted your salt intake during recovery? (am thinking of doing this, but I heart salt...) ...and @catwoman7 : how far along were you when your swelling completely went away? Did you also notice any thigh changes? -
Vitamins, gummies and pills. oh my!
Darktowerdream replied to JRT Mom's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Oh I love my hero nutritionals slice of life omega gummies with chia seed, since they are fish free. They taste good too. For now I get them from vitacost.com but the company told me they will be rebranded at the end of 2020. https://www.vitacost.com/hero-nutritionals-slice-of-life-omega-3-with-chia-seed-adult-gummy-vitamins-natural-cran-orange-60-gummies for my multivitamin I need one that’s free of added iodine and I prefer Garden of life my kind organic prenatal multi whole food gummies. (a lot of bariatric people take prenatal vitamins) I did get Garden of life raw one multivitamin capsules this month, I’m not sure I care for them. I guess Since I have some bloodwork due for a surgeon follow up I’ll find out how my levels are. But my throat has been having problems (likely not related to surgery) the gummies are easier in that regard. And I believe whole food based and chewable or liquid absorb better. For hair skin and nails I like natures way alive hair skin and nails with collagen (300mg) gummies. They also make a calcium but I got a tablet from target, I guess I’ll find out how effective it is comparatively. You are correct about vitamin k , I recommend K2 as Menaquinone MK-7. I buy these sublingual for my mom https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VXDXXM0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 You might want to add in coenzyme Q10 as it’s extremely beneficial. I also take digestive enzymes with meals. For anyone who takes probiotics don’t forget that healthy gut bacteria needs to be fed with prebiotic fiber (inulin) or prebiotic foods. Chicory root is the best source of prebiotics. Some other sources are Apple pectin, konjac root aka glucomannan (you can buy shiritaki noodles made of this) as well as flaxseed and others I can’t think of at the moment. Better than rice is a rice alternative and good source of prebiotics. Cooked right it tastes great. https://www.vitacost.com/better-than-rice-organic-konnyaku-flour-organic-oat-fiber-rice-gluten-free?ta=better+than+rice&t=better+than+rice -
I apparently have an unusual insurance question on my hands because my insurance company doesn’t seem to be understanding my question. For surgery approval, I am required to do six months of weight loss appointments with my general practitioner. At my initial consultation my bariatric surgeon told me to be very careful with how I do my six months of appointments because he’s had patients mess up and not get approved because of the how they did their 6 months due to their insurance companies being very strict. What I’m wanting to know is do my appointments need to be spread out 30 days apart, which is going to be really hard to do with my doctors busy schedule, or can they just be once a month without regard to the number of days in between? All of my appointments are pretty much at least 20 days apart except for one appointment that’s I think 17 days apart. I did reach out to my surgeons office first but was told that I need to contact the insurance company to find that particular detail out and when I call them I get the runaround. I have Anthem BC/BS. I’m sorry if this is a really stupid question. I’m terrified of messing this up!
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How many years after surgery could you eat a plate of spaghetti without feeling nauseous?
djgirl19 replied to Ninja-slash-nerd's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
My opinion being unsolicited bc Im VSG, I’m still commenting. Dumping aside, just stomach real estate considered, at 7 months I don’t suspect I will ever eat a plate of spaghetti again. And I’m glad. I didn’t do this so I could go back to eating that much. I can have a bite or two at this point and be very satisfied and full but not “sick.” I can’t speak to “dumping” but I do get pretty ill from sugar. I used edamame pasta last time I made spaghetti and I liked it. Everyone else tolerated it🤣 -
Dehydrated fruit...how is that diff from dried fruit? I’m curious bc I’ve heard that dried fruit is full of sugar.
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I have had two c sections first one was an emergency and it was a little painful than the second so hopefully this surgery goes just like my past surgery’s. No complications and little pain. I guess I’m also scared because I saw a video about skipping vitamins causing tooth loss and brittle bones, this also got me bc I’m not good at taking meds/vitamins. I’m forgetful. I appreciate all the support!
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Serengirl replied to Serengirl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I hear you. I think the best advice - knowing everyones body is very different of course - I have seen /used to break a stall is Intermittent Fasting, Upping my water and protein, lowering carbs below 30 (sometimes even KETO so more healthy fats) and if say you have been really low on calories I just upped mine and the scale moved again. Which really messes with your head. Or at least it did mine. I have PCOS, I am insulin resistant, I have endometriosis AND I am hypothyroid all four which just make me a slower loser. Its hard to wrap your head around the fact that sometimes you need more CARBS or Calories to get the scale to move... I just keep ploughing forward and then if I stall- which is ALOT- i try to mix it up. And I am here for encouragement and i hope others are too vs casting blame or suspicions on others. Life is too short for the BS and negativity. Some people get dealt a crappier hand and its okay to get bummed out by that because you are human and have good days and bad days and thats OK. I tend to be very glass half full but every once in a blue moon I get frustrated and its okay to feel that way because thats how you move through the emotion to a better place. At the end of the day i am still going to wake up and try. I ran into my old trainer the other day at the gym (she left to go to law school) and she was blown away with how much I have lost and how I look and she texted me after and said I am so proud of you for never giving up because i know all of your health issues and how hard you work but you never ever give up and you should be proud of yourself. I say this because its a good reminder that waking up every day and trying sometimes is the biggest win of all. And there is no crime in encouraging people... That said i know for a fact I have stalled more than a week and it had nothing to do with calories. My surgeon and my Drs all attribute that to the above mentioned medical issues I have. But I can only speak to my body as you can only speak to yours. And to other we should speak with the kindness we wish to get in return. Life is too short for anything else. -
1.5 years out & still throwing up?
SparklyInNOut replied to SparklyInNOut's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
So I’m now 3 days out from reparative surgery. My surgeon removed scar tissue and converted to a RNY Bypass bc he was not sure he could straighten out my sleeve enough. He also repaired my hiatal hernia. Said he removed a “ball of tissue & mesh.” 😳😳😳 He did say repairs fail sometimes bc that was from my previous hiatal hernia repair. This surgery I got to stay in the hospital for a night. It was great to be supported as I started healing & drinking water. I’m also home with a drain (kinda gross) which he does for any revision. Everything looks good though. Drinking my meds & water is already so much easier than recovering from my sleeve! I can tell a huge difference. I do have shoulder pain which they’ve told me is not gas but “positional pain” due to having my arms in one position for the entire 2.5 hour surgery. Thankfully, that means pain killers help. The hospital pushed fentanyl as much as they could once they figured out why I was pretty much screaming in pain. Then I had a morphine button I could push every 7 minutes. I walked a TON in the hospital. When they took me off of the pain meds, I ended up in severe pain again, and they had to give me another dose to make it home. Couldn’t sleep last night but got new pain meds this morning which really help. Would I do it again? Yes. Complications happen. The soreness will decrease. The healing will happen. More weight will come off. It’s going to all be ok. I’m just glad I finally got someone to listen to me. -
I passed pysch with flying colors. I spoon fed her an epic level of bullshit. Or did you not see that in my personality yet? I have no friends. Surprised? Did you miss the post where I admitted as such?
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Home from the Hospital
KompassionateKaye replied to kc892020's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I’m also day 7 of recovery. The pain WAS horrible. I did wonderful the first five days. Set my timer and everything. Yesterday I transitioned to Full Liquids ie broth, creamy soups, etc. Well, that wasn’t enough for me. I incorporated hummus and Puréed black beans. Well if that isn’t sticking to the rules enough, today I incorporated half cup of purées canned chicken with Light Mayonaise. Went down fine and feeling fine. I feel so angry and frustrated at myself though. 7 days and I’m already breaking rules?? I had Sleeve to RNY conversion bc of horrible GERD. Surgeon ended up removing all of my stomach BUT the pouch bc of all the scar tissue. Shame on me. -
Yes thanks. I try to fill up on 150-200 calories.cutting the bars in thirds would be 120 calories, and have virtually no mass, so I fed them to the squirrels who ravage our bird feeders.
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Hey November sleevers.. Anyone using liquid multivitamins?? & know how they are absorbed. Intrested bc chewables make me queasy and the capsules are very large. Sometimes hard to keep down. thanks!
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Sheribear68 replied to Serengirl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Again, I think the definition of “slow loser” is tough. For example, I just looked over my weight logs for the first 6 months, and this is what I found: on AVERAGE I lost 2.69 pounds/week. I went from 246.0 to 176.6from February 6-August 6th. Okay, so the first 2 weeks I lost 22 pounds, and I had several stall weeks, but it’s important to look at a several month range before rushing to judgement. Since August 6th, I’ve lost an AVERAGE of 1.54 pounds/week. Went from 176.6 to 140.8 BTW, goal weight was 155, which I had hit in mid-October. I’m waaaaaaay more proud of the loss after the first 6 months than I am of the initial losses. Logically that shouldn’t hold, bc it’s more than a pound/week DECREASE, but those pounds had to come with harder work and really focusing on my plan and then working said plan The actual numbers aren’t as important as HAVING A GOOD PLAN AND THEN WORKING THAT PLAN. I’m not saying every day was a success. Especially during the holidays, I had some hedonistic eating (and drinking days). I had one day in there that I know for a fact I DRANK over 2,000 calories in cocktails. Overall though, it’s worked bc every day I wake with focus and intensity and that drinking day was actually something I had planned ahead of time, as weird as that sounds. In short, when I’ve fallen off-plan, it was intentionally and not coming from a place of mental stress or getting caught up in the moment. According to many people’s definition, I’m definitely a slow loser ( -
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Fatboyslim1 replied to Serengirl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am over 60 years old and rather sedentary by nature. So let's see, that blows the old and no exercise theory. Oh year, I have high BP and am hypoglycemic with borderline t2 diabetes . So there goes those false flags. what I believe is, it is much "kinder" to be honest with people that you can really help, than it is to be complicit in prepetuating a false narative to appease a few people who have other issues or motives. Holy crap, there are posts that claim individuals burn 3500 + calories per day and can't lose weight ! How do you think that resonates with an obese bed bound individual who is trying to make an intelligent decision about the rest of their life ? So no, as long as this urban myth thread or one like it exists, I will post the science. Sorry. And as you say, people can and should talk about their weight loss journey (I'm one of them). But this is a feedback forum, and it would seem that if you want to really help people, you have to call out the BS. put another way: put down the bagel ! -
Intermittent Fasting Daily Menu/Results/Accountability
Sheribear68 replied to FluffyChix's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Might have to try the granola idea. I’ve been avoiding yogurts all along because those are big-time sliders for me and they make me crave carbs (I only really like the flavored ones) but maybe I can test out adding some honey and granola and see where it takes me. It would have to be lunch though bc anything thicker than protein shake in the am “sticks” and gives me stomach cramps. Can’t be productive if I’m feeling like I wanna lie down and die for an hour in the morning. I tried peanut butter once a few months ago— didn’t sit well but I can try it again I suppose. Eggs are still an epic struggle for me. They used to be one of my fave foods of all time and now they don’t like me. 😭😭😭 -
Intermittent Fasting Daily Menu/Results/Accountability
Sheribear68 replied to FluffyChix's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Okay guys, I’m trying to decide if I need to change anything. I’ve IF’d since month 3 PO. The main reason I chose the 16:8 fasting style is I would be in pain and my water intake would suffer if I tried to eat a meal before 11-11:30 in the morning and it didn’t matter if I woke up at 5am or at 9am. Before 11am HURT to put solids in. I’m very good at protein first, anything else second during my eating window, so I never really stressed the protein. If I fell short, i drank a cup of milk between meals and make it up. All of this has contributed to my smashing success in losing above and beyond all expectations set by my doctors and by myself. I’m truly an outlier at well >100% excess fat lost. Honestly though, my 16:8 fast almost every day has become a source of comfort and routine and I love the lifestyle. I’ve never before in my life been more comfortable managing hunger and getting in healthy nutrients that my body needs and thrives on. That being said, I decided to abstain from the scale for a month back on December 14. On that date, I had successfully taken off my 4 pound regain from thanksgiving/vacay and I felt ready to conquer the rest of the holiday “doing my usual” with the exception of several cheat days. My thought process was to not stress myself out during the holidays— enjoy life, weigh a few weeks later, and assess the damage. Well yesterday am I woke up and it dawned on me that I was visibly looking “skinner” and I actually could feel that I was lighter (not a normal feeling for me) so I decided to get on the scale about a week early. Guys, I went from 146.4 down to 140.6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was completely by accident bc I had a few hedonistic days in there. Now I’ve starts training for a half later this year and I’m a bit worried about all of the cardio I’ll be doing to get ready. Yet I DO NOT want to give up my IF. It’s my comfort zone and my security blanket. what’s a girl to do? -
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Fatboyslim1 replied to Serengirl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Karen - well said, but unfortunately there are people on this thread and elsewhere who constantly push the completely absurd narrative that a significant caloric deficit is not directly resultant in weight loss. It is ridiculous and quite frankly harmful to the hundreds of thousands of people who could be greatly helped by WLS but are reluctant because they read fake news. People can rant to themselves that somehow they are not directly responsible for their failures but I take extreme exception to shouting a false narrative to the world as some BS attempt to hide their own guilt. Even worse than that is the self fulfilling prophesy cycle that the fake narrative creates. Sorry, but I simply can't stand by silently in the face of nonsense . As for sticking to a plan in the long term for sustained health weight, that's going to be a struggle for us all. However that has absolutely nothing to do with losing weight do to CICO. Luck! -
April 2020
danielleleigh90 replied to Repeatingthoughts's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Congrats!!! This is random, but do you (or anyone else who sees this) obsess over the surgery? Wondering if it will be approved, worried that something will change, etc.? If so, how do you manage it?! I literally have a hard time sleeping now bc it's always on my mind! ALWAYS! -
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Losingit2018 replied to Serengirl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Right I was not implying that a diabetic should snack between meals. Like I said they should definitely not fast and eat smaller meals at regular intervals. diabetes runs heavily in my family. I was my moms caretaker before she recently passed for the last 15 years. Been to many nutrition and diabetic support classes. eating one or two larger meals is not what a diabetic should do at all. Several smaller meals keep bs stable i myself have been on every diet known to man. The one that I lost the most weight and felt my best was the GI Diet. We ate small portions of low GI foods every 3 hours or so. That is based on glycemic index and is how it is recommended for a diabetic to eat. -
Food Before and After Photos
MarvelGirl25 replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Fed by my uncle again yesterday. No questions this time because he was too busy. We are done with the moving but now we’re unpacking and I can’t cook until I find my pans. I never thought I’d say this but I miss meal planning. Took one bite of the causa (first pic), gave the rice and most of my grilled potatoes from my grilled steak plate to my bf and dad, ate a couple bites of flan, and had some mazamorra (purple corn “jelly” with dates, and other fruits). This was my only meal for the day.
