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Any whey protein isolate that dissolves well into everything?
SpartanMaker replied to Selina333's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hydrolysed Whey Protein Isolate (also known as Whey Protein Hydrolysate), tends to dissolve a little better than regular non-hydrolysed whey, so that might be something to look for? The hydrolyzed version is also a bit more bioavailable, so that's also a good reason to choose it. Unfortunately it's typically more pricey, so keep that in mind. You can also look for "Clear Whey". As far as I know, clear whey is all whey protein hydrolysate, but you should double-check before buying anything. I don't really have any brand recommendations, but as long as it's pure 100% hydrolysed whey protein isolate, brand shouldn't matter. Plus, I don't know this for sure, but I've been told by others that most whey on the market is produced in just a few manufacturing plants and thus most of the "manufacturers" are not really making it themselves. They just contract out the work to one of these plants. My point is, I'm not sure there's a ton of difference between any of them. One caution here. No whey is going to dissolve well into hot liquids (like coffee). Think of it sort of like what happens when milk curdles if put into something really hot. What happens to whey is somewhat similar (the proteins start to clump), so the best bet in this instance is to dissolve it first into a little bit of cool water before adding it to anything hot. -
What to do, am in a very difficult situation with my weight and options
SpartanMaker replied to Angieee's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
At the end of the day, no one here can tell you if it's right for you. Keep in mind that obesity is a disease and it definitely needs a treatment plan, just like your other conditions. The right treatment for any given person varies based on a lot of factors, so don't automatically decide yourself what the right treatment should be. The best thing for you to do is seek out a GOOD bariatric center that has lots of options available to you and not just surgery. Personally, my gut tells me that it's too soon to go this route since obesity is such a recent issue for you. I'm not a doctor, and certainly not a bariatric surgeon, but just thinking through how recent this obesity disease is for you, I personally would want to try some more conservative treatments first? -
Also 59 and agree it never hurts to ask. And if a revision isn’t an option (for whatever reason) ask about GLP-1 meds or other options available to you. You never know the answer if you don’t ask the question. All the best.
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3yrs post of with 80lbs still to lose; need help.
WendyJane replied to Tobemeghan's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hello, welcome! I understand your plight. I too had troubles in the procreation department. However, it is going back to the basics. High protein meals! Eat within 1 1/2 hours of waking and stop after eating dinner. Calories is not an issue, the amount of protein is the bigger deal. I'll leave the specifics to SpartanMaker, he writes volumes. No simple sugars and limit your food sizes. 30 minutes of exercise? What kind of exercise? Are you just walking, doing strength training or cardio? Walking is always a good thing. Keep working the basics and the weight will come off, but nothing will happen quickly. Wishing you well. -
Food Before and After Photos
GreenTealael replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Everything protein bagels! Made with Greek yogurt. ~5 g protein and 76 cals each. -
Clean Simple Eats is really good. You can get the variety pack- adding them into Greek yogurt helps because that tang balances out the sweetness in my opinion. Isopure is great and very low carb, Premier protein is good. Latte one with decaf coffee makes an excellent cold brew. Making shakes and adding them are "ok" just have to be careful they can end up being high in calories and not super filling. You can do unsweetened almond milk, scoop of powder, 1/4 of banana, 1/4C of Greek yogurt, handful of spinach if you wanted to keep is low cal, and high protein. But are you trying to protein shakes/ powders due to the stage you are in your journey? I am 16months post op and am able to get all my protein from food. (I am able to eat probably more food than the average post op patient)
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My new favorite summer breakfast is Full fat cottage cheese with seedless black grapes sliced in. Everyone I have told says yuck no, but I love it. You could add extra protein powder to it.
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Reactive Hypoglycemia or Dumping Syndrome?
LilaNicole20 replied to leese1313's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
You just need to fuel ahead of your activities. Proper amounts of proteins, fats and carbohydrates spaced out through the day. a quality protein carb snack before strenuous activity. -
I use 'Macrofirst' app! It's crazy easy to use! You can even scan barcode of stuff and it'll automatically pull the nutritional facts up and all of the information for you. It tracks everything including water intake! Check it out because it's the best one I've found so far that you don't have to actually pay for! They do have an option where you pay for it to get more out of the app, but I've always used the free version and it has and offers everything!
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Just wanted to share since i'm new
EmilyFlowers replied to EmilyFlowers's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Between measuring out my tiny portions, taking all my vitamins, and trying to hit my protein goals while keeping my blood sugar stable, some days feel like a full-time job XD -
Is it just me, or is it really odd they'd tell you what not to use, but didn't tell you what you should be using? Surely they must have some suggestions that fit what they want here? As far as I know, all meal replacement shakes contain added vitamins as that's sort of the point. They also contain added carbs and fats that most protein shakes don't have. I'd say the vast majority of people here were told to just use protein shakes. That's typically for a few reasons: First, especially if you also take a vitamin supplement, you're not going to suffer any long term harm using protein shakes instead of meal replacement shakes for a few weeks. Second, most meal replacement shakes are lower in protein than a typical protein shake. We want as much protein as possible to help prevent the breakdown of muscle tissue when dieting. Third, most bariatric doctors don't actually want you consuming very many carbs, since one of the main goals of the pre-surgical diet is to shrink your liver to make the surgery safer. The best way to do that is a very low carb diet. (The liver is one of the main ways your body stores glycogen, so by depleting it of glycogen (carbs), it will get smaller, even if no other changes take place.) TL;DR: Ask your team what they want you to use.
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@Arabesque is correct. Your body is specifically designed to "detox" without any intervention from you. Anyone trying to sell you something that claims to do this is the modern equivalent of a snake-oil salesman. Don't waste your money or time. Regarding your pain, I'm sorry you're going through this. Aside from being uncomfortable, it must also be scary. If the tests you've done have so far been inconclusive, then you need to be asking your doctor "what's next". It's not acceptable for them to say "we didn't find anything, so there must not be a problem". This does require you to be an advocate for yourself, which can be hard for some people. Don't settle for "we don't know". The proper response is "we don't know yet, so let's explore other options".
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What’s for dinner? The non cooks version.
TiredAngel replied to ShoppGirl's topic in Food and Nutrition
My favorite tofu dishes are either agadashi tofu ( firm tofu, drain, pat it dry, roll it in corn starch and bake or fry it) mix 2tbs soy sauce, water, mirin in a bowl with 1 tsp ground fresh ginger, drop tofu in and eat immediately. or tofu tofrites: extra firm tofu (drain, pat dry and allow to dry wrapped in paper towels with a plate on top to squish out water, while you make the batter. I have a bunch of batters. Off the top of my head 1c almond meal/flour, 1/2 c coconut flakes, and like 2 tbs Cajun seasoning. Cut tofu into fat fry sizes and dunk it milk or a scrambled up egg then batter and place on baking sheet with parchment paper (or it sticks and is bad ) 15 min at 400 and or until outside is panko crispy. Salt if needed. Good as is or with dips also great with shrimp. Or tofu chocolate pie/ mouse: everyone likes this with different amounts of sugar (if I eat sugar I suddenly can’t think about anything but binge eating for a week). So I just use the darkest and most cocoa powder chocolate I can get and melt 1.5 cups and toss it in a blender with an already prepped block of silken tofu (prep, wrap it in paper towels 2-3 layers till try, so not squash silken to get out water). I then add a sprinkle of salt and a tap vanilla. Scrape it into cups or a pie tin…. Refrigerate for 2 hours. My sister makes this with a cup of sweetener… I skip. Pardon.. seriously all day I think about food. Get a notebook or notecards. Separate it into categories by how long it is to prepare. Start with your under 5 min, 30, or whatever times you need. Put carb, protein, etc info in the back. Make your recipe set. When you are bored with food… a crazy good recipe like sukiyaki with konjac noodles or muscles in a savory broth, spoil yourself. Or mix up your cards you have saved. Add cards as you like things. But make sure you have a ready supply of “crap I can make with on hand pantry stuff when I didn’t go shopping,” “crap I can make under 5 min, I am starving,” and “crap that freezes great for oamc food prep so you are never having to resort to crap take out.” You will feel like you’ve got the Bariatric eating down after you have your recipe book. -
I'm team both? My diet mantra is 80/20. What I mean is: I try to focus on getting ~80% of my calories from minimally processed foods. (AKA, I try to eat clean.) I don't really track this, I just focus on making good food choices when I can. I try to eat a wide variety of foods, so nothing's off limits. To me, there are no bad foods, there are just some that provide more nutritional value than others. Plus, the more variety i have in my diet, the better overall nutritional profile I'll have. I try to shoot for 80% of what I eat being things that have a bit more nutritional value. For example, most of the time, I might pick spinach or kale over lettuce. I eat carb centered. It's not quite 80%, so my mantra may be a bit off? I suppose between carbs and protein, it probably is 80%, so I'll settle for that. I know this one will be controversial here since the bariatric dietitians push protein so heavily (and don't misunderstand me, protein is critically important), but as endurance athlete at maintenance and 2.5 years out from surgery, I need more carbs than I did during the weight loss phase. Critical to the above is that I don't obsess over any of it. I guess my point in the above is that if you're trying to determine the "best" protein source, maybe the real right answer is there is no best. Once your body starts breaking down the protein you consume into the component amino acids, your body doesn't know where those amino acids came from. The advantage of not focusing on just one source of protein is that there are vastly different micronutrient profiles across foods. The more variety you eat, the better off you are nutritionally.
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2 months post op macros
NeonRaven8919 replied to Just a phase 98's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I never got information about that either. I was just told the portion size and to eat the protein first. I'm 6 months post op and to be honest, I don't even think about macros or calories except to make sure I get protein in first. That's probably not good for me in the long run, I know, but counting calories has been to much for my mental health at the moment so I've been focusing on portion size and protein. -
I need some new fresh meal prep Ideas! My goal is to hit a minimum of 160g protein and 1700 calories. Anyone have some good breakfast and lunch ideas for a gal who works in an office? Hit me with some recipes!
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Food Before and After Photos
ms.sss replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
im in the midst of a full home renovation and the only thing we have at our disposal at the moment is an upstairs bathroom sink and a microwave. so thus is our dinner options for the night: - microwave KD - canned tuna and crackers - strawberry rhubarb pie - (dark) chocolate covered pistachios - instant ramen - jalapeño corn bread - ...and a screwdriver i made cuz i couldn't decide what to eat omg ....ended up drinking the cocktail (natch) with ½ serving if pie, one forkful of cornbread, and 1/4 a tin of tuna. yay me. ha. estimated 446 calories for what i ate. hopefully i can start eating a little better when my kitchen is fully operational again! -
Deli meats, lightly cooked fish, smoked fish, prawns, tuna, softly scrambled eggs, sashimi and cheese were my go to things. As you can see I craved the salty side. At the end of the day I would finish with a protein yogurt or protein pudding and a latte or a glass of milk, plain or made into a protein milkshake made with PB2 powder and banana
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Protein Bars or a shake?
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Any luck with insurance coverage
PorkChopExpress replied to Ruby22's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
I’ve run into similar issues with ambiguous insurance code stuff, especially when it comes to newer or non-traditional procedures like ESG. It’s super frustrating calling and getting different answers each time. I had to push a lot for coverage on something once, and only got traction when the billing office from the provider contacted the insurer directly with suggested codes. If you're planning more procedures or looking into broader health coverage in the future, especially for your family, I found this info on https://premierpmi.co.uk/health-insurance/health-insurance-for-a-family-of-4/ pretty helpful when we were comparing options. It gave me a clearer picture of what to expect. -
All protein is now gross
SpartanMaker replied to zeskyizblack's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What about Milk? Fairlife makes both full fat and reduced fat milk that has extra protein in it. It's not as much as the protein drinks, but it's not that far off. Eggs might be another option? I couldn't tolerate and still don't care for scrambled, but over-easy and boiled eggs have worked well for me for a long time. On the hair loss thing: I don't really think protein intake makes a ton of difference honestly. At least if you are getting the minimum recommended amount per your surgeon. My point is that there are more factors at work here than just protein intake. For most people post weight loss surgery, at least some hair loss is inevitable. Stress and hormone imbalances probably contribute at least as much hair loss post bariatric surgery as protein intake issues. Keep in mind that any hair loss post-surgery is likely temporary, so you'll do yourself well by not stressing over something you may not have any control over. IMO, the bigger reason to focus on protein intake is because it will help stave off muscle loss. This is a bit overly simplistic, but the more muscle you maintain during your loss, the better your weight loss will be because it will help keep your metabolism up. -
Finding protein without whey
Arabesque replied to Shelley h's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Vegan protein powders would be your best bet. Just avoid the soy ones. Are you okay with seeds as some vegan proteins use seeds (chia, sunflower, pumpkin, hemp) as a source of protein. -
Recently sleeved - with leg cramps
Janina__sleevingitallbehind replied to Janina__sleevingitallbehind's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
That is something I hadn't thought about yet - the relationship of sugar with cramps. At this point I don't think that is causing them - I am taking in so little sugar...but I do wonder about the timing and what I eat/drink at night. Last night, for a variety of reasons, the last thing I had before going to bed was a protein shake and I woke up around 5:30 with milk cramps in my shins/ankles...nothing major and easily walked off. So maybe there's something to that last food being protein. Thanks for the info! Sorry you deal with this too :( -
There is no magic bullet here. In terms of protein density, you're just not going to beat whey or soy protein isolate. If you don't like them as shakes, you might try mixing with less water or milk into protein pudding? It may take some experimentation to find one you like the taste of that way. I've never tried them, but bariatric pal does sell some that are prepackaged and designed specifically for making pudding. If you want to go the whole food route, eggs and chicken breast probably come in next in terms of protein density.
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I personally have a somewhat pathological dislike for those calculators. I just tried the one @Bari_Hopeful posted and supposedly I should have stopped losing around 225 lbs. Even using the interquartile range listed, I shouldn't have made it past 200. I don't think of myself as exceptional in any way, though this calculator might make it look like it. If anything, I'm maybe just more stubborn and was willing to do whatever was needed so I could finally get to a normal weight. Settling for just overweight instead of obese was not really an option for me. I guess it just seems to me we set our expectations too low when we use an average like this. I know it's hard, but everyone can potentially make it to a "normal" weight range if they are willing to work at it.
