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I suffer from hypothyroidism which was never there untill the birth of my daughter. Since then its been a struggle for me and weight which prior I had zero issues with. I'm concern how my hypo will play out with me losing weight after VSG. from the few people in other networks I've heard their meds have decreased, and they seem at least some to lose weight at a slower rate, than someone without hypo. Would love any who has hypo and had wls to please give me some insight thank-you and GOOD MORNING TO ALL LET TODAY BE A PRODUCTIVE SUPPORTIVE DAY!
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Post-Op January 2014 Losers Club!
2biglamb replied to Eroper6's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Good morning! I am feeling discouraged today . I see so many of you where you are having great success with losing weight and here I am and it's just slowly coming off! I know that I should not be comparing myself to anybody else. Since surgery Jan 20th I have lost a measly 12 lbs. most days I get all my fluids in and almost all of my required 60grs of protein. According to my NUT I can eat anything I want as long as I chew chew chew. I am keeping it to mostly soft foods. I have hypo thyroid/Graves disease which has always made it hard to lose weight . I was really hoping that with the surgery I would be able to lose faster. Maybe I am being to hard on myself after all 12 lbs in 3 weeks is still good better then WW or any other diet I ever tried! -
I asked my doctor how he knows how much is in there. He said that during the fill, he actually removes all the fluid, checks the hypo, then re-injects the fluid, plus the fill amount.
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I keep away from most carbs. Definitely proactive in getting mt Protein in (love turkey dishes! lol) I did run out of my meds for hypo but at the time I was overdosed. I did gey a full panel done last year and my levels came back normal. I have been taking kelp since. Aside from slow # weightloss...taking my Vitamins and minerals keeps me straight. But I am not sure if it may be reverting back to hypo. I use myfitnesspal as a tracker. It reminds me alot my caloric intake ia too low lol
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Alcoholic Cocktails & Me
DLCoggin replied to Dee_1111's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ms. Dee your honesty is nothing short of inspirational! Just amazing. Soooo, time to step up and share embarrassing stories. This one is a beaut! I seldom dump but when I do it's late stage dumping - aka reactive hypoglycemia. Too much simple carbs (white rice) or too much sugar (I dumped once on grapes for Pete's sake) and two to three hours after eating my sugars drop like a rock in a pond. I mean REALLY drops. First time it happened I checked my blood sugar and it was 37. Now I know this. I know the symptoms. I know the cause. I even know the "cure" - I eat just about anything with sugar in it and in 15 minutes I'm absolutely fine. So a couple of weeks ago my wife and I had been running some post holiday errands. We finally get home and I'm thinking "I am so going to have a glass of wine". But we have some leftover eggnog and my wife says she'd love an eggnog with a little Captain Morgan's spiced rum and a dash of nutmeg. Wow. Why didn't I think of that? I think I'll join you! So I have my rum laced glass of eggnog and guys I have to tell you, it was like the nectar of life. I knocked down that first eggnog in about a minute and a half. Honey, you ready for another one? I go to make us a second round and I'm thinking the only problem with this plan is that my glass just isn't big enough for "the nectar of life". No problem! We've got some of those Dixie plastic cups. You guys know the ones, bright red, hold 16oz. Perfect size for the nectar of life right? Eggnog, check. Rum, check. Can't forget the dash of nutmeg, check. About an hour to an hour and a half later I fell asleep watching TV. Another hour or so later my wife wakes me up - "time for bed." Right behind you Honey! So I stand up and right away I'm thinking I don't feel so good. Cold sweats, my whole body has the shakes - you dumb a** you're dumping! On the nectar of life no less. Bummer. But hey, I'm on my way to bed. I'll just grab my Vitamins and hit the sack. So I get my vitamins down and... The next thing I remember I'm sitting (sort of) on the floor of our kitchen. My little plastic box that used to have my vitamins in it is sitting on the floor in my general vicinity. The vitamins that used to be in my little plastic box are - well, everywhere. It looked like my little plastic box had exploded in a shower of Vitamin shrapnel. My black lab is sniffing her way through the carnage to see if there's anything that would appeal to her meat-o-saurus taste buds. Fortunately, she apparently is not a vitamin kind of girl. Then she realizes that Dad is awake and on "her floor" so of course it's time for black lab kisses. LOTS of black lab kisses. So I'm sitting there trying to breathe while avoiding lab tongue in my mouth. I'm thinking. If I tell my wife about this, I'm dead. No, I'm worse than dead. She is not going to be amused. Then it comes to me - she's already upstairs in bed. Probably asleep already. You dummy, don't tell her! Pick up the vitamins, swear the lab to secrecy, life is good. Good plan! And it would have worked too. Except for one little detail. Apparently on my way to my unscheduled meeting with the floor, the kitchen trash can got in my way. The metal, kitchen, trash can. The one that now looks surprisingly like I drove my car into it. Wonder if she'll notice? Maybe I could blame it on the dog (sorry Libbi!)? She noticed. And sure enough, she was not amused. I survived. But it was touch and go there for a while. And the nectar of life? Never, ever again. Hey, I ain't no fool! Come on you guys. You know you want to. Dee shared her's. I shared mine. Let's hear some of those embarrassing stories! -
I agree with the suggestion about seeing a nutritionist. Perhaps the calories you're taking in aren't quite the right kind for you. I do notice that for me, the scale moves lower if I eat more...but only if it's good calories (Proteins with a very few whole wheat carbs). Keep track of your foods religiously for a couple weeks before you see the nutritionist so s/he can pinpoint where things could change. I love the app Lose It, but others prefer My Fitness Pal. Good luck!! you'll get there!! ETA: PS I am hypo too and so far my meds haven't changed since having the lap band. Are you taking them in the morning on an empty stomach (no meals for 30min to an hr)? For the first year of taking Levothyroxine, I didn't know that you had to do that. I take it right when I wake up before my shower and morning routine.
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Thanks everyone! Most days I may take in 1000-1500 calories, and I workout 5 days a week. Those workouts usually burn 1000+....so my net is too low for my body to recover. 1700 seems high but there were a couple times I did hit it and I lost weight. One of my problems is I need to eat more & but right now I am limited on funds to buy what I need to hit 1700. I've been having issues lately keeping food down...seems like I get food stuck easily lately. If my calorie net is too low or negative my body reacts by storing :/ I am still losing fat but it is frustrating. Can't net enough because I don't eat enough lol Did any of you have any underlying medical issues like with your thyroid by chance? That was the only reason I qualified for surgery because I was hypo & my surgery goal was only 60lbs. My body likes to horde anyway cause of the hypo part. I'll have to wait and see how my tax return looks to see if I can make an appointment with the doctor I went too. I did selfpay so it costs $200+ for a visit and I don't have that to go to it.
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Haven't posted in awhile, but I am not finding anything really on GOOGLE to address the issues I am having. My one year post-op coverage ended last March (had surgery 3/29/12 - goal is 60lbs). The first year out I did pretty well, and the second year was weight wise a bust for me. I seemed to have lost/gain the same 5lbs all year...first year I had a net loss of over 34lbs...second year only 14lbs. Now here's the thing..I'm not necessarily concerned about my number weight because I workout alot, and it's pretty intense. I lost inches for sure and have put on muscle..continue to do so at this point. But the scale hasn't budged past 209...I was 258 when I started the journey. My goal for surgery to be a success is 198...so being THAT close and it hasn't happened yet is frustrating me. This will be my third year, 2nd year post op, and I am considering having the Fluid removed from my band if I get a decent tax return, just to see if that would help me get the net calories I need, which is about 1700 for my activity level. I'm on the fence about it..I was hypothryoid, and didn't actually have a eating issue. But because I am so active at this point, I don't take in enough calories, so my weight isn't moving. I can easily burn and exceed my daily intake in one workout session. So I need to eat more, but with my band being filled I am having issues with it. I have had some increase in vomitting the last few months, but my band hasn't been increased in almost a year. So it's hit or miss. I am also wondering if my thyroid is reverting back to being hypo. When my panels were checked last year, I read normal, but I wonder if that might be causing issues too. So I guess my question is for those that are pretty active...did you have to do anything with your band to be able to get more good calories in? I eat every 3-4 hours, and I don't eat crappy foods the majority of the time. My liquid consists of 95% Water, and I make an effort to drink enough. I feel really stuck. I went from the "fat person" to the "fit person" and I really feel like at this point I should be at least in the 190s! LOL Any input would be appreciated, thank you Manda
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blood sugar issues
DLCoggin replied to loving.life's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've had late stage dumping a few times which is reactive hypoglycemia. Usually two to three hours following eating something I shouldn't have. I can eat almost anything with sugar and symptoms disappear within 20 to 30 minutes. But in my case, I have always been able to identify the food that caused the dumping. From your description, it sounds like your sugar is low and pretty much stays low. I'd discuss that with your doctor. It's not common but hypoglycemia can be serious and result in loss of consciousness if it gets low enough. I'd check with the big kahuna. -
I have experienced "late stage" dumping (which normally occurs two to three hours following eating) in the form of reactive hypoglycemia a few times. First time it happened I checked my blood sugar and it was 37. In my case, eating just about anything with sugar sees the symptoms resolve within 10-20 minutes. But this is not a daily occurrence for me and without exception, I have always been able to identify the food that caused the problem. How long after eating your breakfast does the hypoglycemia occur? Would appear to be a totally different scenario to experiencing low blood sugar on a daily basis unless your breakfast is normally Cereal or something else with a high sugar content. Have you talked with your doctor? If not I would recommend that you do. Hypoglycemia can be serious in some cases. I don't think it's common but it can result in loss of consciousness and worse under certain circumstances. The good news is that it's usually very treatable. Huge congratulations on your weight loss!!
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I would agree, forgot about the Hypo....
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WLS & Thyroid desease
RNYChick2013 replied to 2biglamb's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Congrats to you! I have Hypo Thyroid disease too. You will do fine. Just take your meds and vitamins everyday. -
Am having open rny on Jan 20 I have hypo thyroid. This makes losing weight really hard. Does anyone else have thyroid and can I still expect to lose regularly with only an occasional plateau?
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The Quest bars are my "go to" for sweet cravings. They're high in Protein and Fiber, and do not spike blood sugar. For me, if I have a regular cookie, cake, candy.....any of it, it sets me up for an out of control eating frenzy. Also, being that I have reactive hypoglycemia, it messes badly with my blood sugar in a way where I have to eat a lot just to balance it. Not worth it... The Quest and Atkins bars are fabulous, and eating one doesn't leave me wanting to eat the entire box.
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Dumping is often the result of eating foods with too much sugar but it can also be the result of eating carbs (for example white rice). Although decidedly unpleasant, dumping is seldom serious and rarely requires medical attention. It's also important to remember that many bypass patients never experience dumping. It's a mistake to count on dumping as a benefit of bypass since it may never occur. From a weight loss standpoint it makes no difference. There is no scientific evidence that patients who dump are any more or less successful than those who don't. For folks who experience dumping, about two-thirds experience early dumping. Early dumping usually occurs twenty to thirty minutes following eating. The remaining one third experience late dumping which usually occurs two to three hours following eating but can occur twelve hours or more later. Late dumping is usually reactive hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) and symptoms can usually be resolved quickly by eating just about anything that contains sugar. I seldom dump but when I do it's late dumping. In my case, white rice and popcorn are definitely off the menu options. The list of things that might result in dumping would be pretty long. But probably of little value anyway on an individual basis. Person A dumps on "X" every time while person B has no trouble at all with "X" but dumps on "Y", and person C doesn't dump on anything.. Regardless of whether you dump or not, you're gonna love the new you!!
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dumping syndrome
Ballermom replied to KayCTheNewMe's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm curious as to what are your symptoms. And did your physician diagnosis you with dumping syndrome. Because I in particular have reactive hypoglycemia. Mine is like an allergy to simple sugar. In the beginning I thought I had dumping syndrome. I have even once had Splenda in a tea then I ended up in the bathroom sweaty and in the bathroom. But now I get sweaty headache sometimes. Like my sugar drops. This to Carbs. -
New Sleeve not tolerating artificial sweeteners....
Ballermom replied to clmftw's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes, I could not tolerate simple sugars. I actually may have reactive hypoglycemia from premier Protein shakes and almost all sugar in the beginning similar to a Diabetic who sugar drops. i still get it but not as bad. i get light headed and sweaty after certain sugars. however i can tolerate artificial sugar but cutting back. i needed to cut back anyway. But yes it get better. -
Questions about Dumping and over-eating
DLCoggin replied to Bobby Smith's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Dumping really isn't anything to "fear" and it's also not something that should be considered a guaranteed benefit of RnY. Although decidedly unpleasant, dumping is seldom serious and rarely requires medical attention. What folks often fail to realize pre-op is that a sizeable percentage of RnY patients never experience dumping. That really isn't too big of a deal since there is no scientific evidence that folks who experience dumping are any more or less successful that those who don't. There is a very long list of benefits associated with surgery and not one of them is attributed to dumping. The list of possible symptoms of dumping is fairly long but everyone is different and may or may not experience any given one. Vomiting, nausea, dizziness, accelerated heart rate - all possible symptoms. About two-thirds of patients experience early dumping which usually occurs 15 to 30 minutes following eating. The remaining one-third experience late dumping which usually occurs two to three hours following eating but can occur as much as twelve hours later. Late dumping is usually the result of reactive hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). Dumping is often associated with foods high in sugar but dumping can also result from eating foods high in carbohydrates or fats. It can be easy to over eat for several weeks immediately following the surgery. Your pouch has nerves that function as stretch sensors. Those nerves send "full" signals to the brain. But for a period of time following surgery, those nerves are ineffective during the initial healing process. That's why you will often read folks saying they don't "feel full". It usually passes within a few weeks. Until then, it's doubly important to watch your portion sizes. Once things settle down most folks have little trouble knowing when they're full. You're gonna love the new you!! -
I had no nausea medication and I was fine. I took the option of taking the prescriptions and only getting the drugs if it came to needing them. None of us really know until the surgery how our bodies are going to react and what we might need. I preferred taking the approach of being ready and prepared should I need these drugs but reactive in taking them rather than precautionary.
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Could my thyroid be the cause of my extreme hunger? (re: Ghrelin)
marfar7 posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I had heard pre sleeve that they take out the Ghrelin producing stomach (supposedly where 90% of Ghrelin is made. Heard the other 10% was in the pancreas) causing me to feel no hunger, either for a long period of time (ie: 6 mths-1yr) or ever. I've noticed that it's spread pretty evenly on this board: Those of us that still have hunger and those that don't (lucky dogs, btw) Thought I'd look up Ghrelin. I found that its produced in the pituitary, stomach, intestine, pancreas, thymus, gonads, thyroid, lungs, kideys, brain, and heart. Wow. I guess my other organs picked up where my stomach left off. I've been on Levothyroxine for my thyroid for about 10 yrs. Now that I've seen in writing that some of the Ghrelin is produced in the thyroid, I'm wondering if you have hypo/hyper thyroidism if that might affect ur levels of Ghrelin. Has anyone heard this? Does anyone have an upcoming appt with their surgeon where they can ask this question? Starting on day 10, I've continued to have hunger (real hunger, not acid or head hunger). While it's easily satiated (with a few bites), I'm hungry more often than pre sleeve. It gets embarrassing to inform my husband that I'm hungry "again" 90 minutes after my last meal. I feel that he thinks I'm a pig (I told him of my fear one day and he informed me that altho he teases me "Ur hungry AGAIN?", he's never felt this way). I hafta keep a baggy of almonds in my purse cuz sometimes I can't wait till I can get to a meal - then I make poor choices. Anyone else have a problem with hunger? And those that don't feel hungry post op: You have no idea how much I envy you!! I totally expected to be just like you -
Hey girls, I have a hypo active thyroid and diabetes as well. Between those two and the required meds weight loss is a struggle but I keep at it. I take 200 mcg of synthroid daily.
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Weight Loss Surgery May Reverse Signs Of Aging
gamergirl posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Check this out. I'm ready to look 21 while knowing what I do at 47 now. How about you? Paring pounds through weight-loss surgery doesn’t just make people feel younger — it may actually rewind genetic signs of aging, according to a small study of obese bariatric patients. Stanford University researchers found that the chromosome caps known as telomeres, which typically get shorter as people age, actually grew longer in certain people who had gastric bypass surgery. “If your telomeres get longer, you’re likely to reverse the effects of aging,” said Dr. John Morton, Stanford’s chief of bariatric surgery and president-elect of the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery, or ASMBS. The improvement wasn’t large, only about 2 percent to 3 percent in telomere length, said Morton, who is presenting the study Friday during ObesityWeek 2013, an event hosted by the ASMBS and the Obesity Society. But the benefit was greatest in those who were sickest — patients who were not only heavy, but also had problems like chronic inflammation and heart disease. And it was a surprising finding that invites more research about the genetic effects of bariatric surgery, Morton said. “This is the first study to look at surgical weight loss and telomeres,” Morton said. “We know that surgery has a big effect when it comes to weight, but this is literally at the genetic level. It was nice to see confirmation at least that it would improve.” The study didn't show that weight-loss surgery smoothes wrinkles or prevents gray hair, of course. But Morton said patients often wind up looking younger. "You do have some actual visual changes beyond weight loss," he said. The patients were mostly women with an average age of 49 and an average body mass index of 44.3, which is considered morbidly obese. Body mass index is a ratio of height and weight, with a BMI of 18 to under 25 considered normal. A person with a BMI of 44.3 might be 5-feet, 9 inches tall and weigh 300 pounds. On average, the patients in the study lost 71 percent of their excess weight through gastric bypass surgery, which makes the stomach smaller and allows food to bypass part of the small intestine. Their levels of C-reactive Protein, or CRP, a measure of inflammation, dropped more than 60 percent and their fasting insulin levels, an indicator of dangerous metabolic syndrome, declined four-fold, the study found. But, notably, in patients with high levels of LDL or “bad” cholesterol and inflammation before the operation, their telomeres lengthened, compared to patients with lower levels, Morton said. That makes sense, said Jerry Shay, a cell biologist at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, who was not involved in the study. People who are overweight often have dramatically shortened telomeres, Shay said. Those are lengths of DNA tied to Proteins at the end of chromosomes, often described like the plastic caps on the ends of shoelaces. Every time a cell divides, the telomeres get shorter, eventually reducing so much that the cell stops dividing, and dies. That doesn’t mean that the person dies, Shay is quick to add. “The length of your telomeres doesn’t mean you’re going to drop dead, it just means that something’s going on. It’s a biological sensor of the stress and damage that is going on in your body.” That said, Shay says the new study’s findings shouldn’t be interpreted as if weight-loss surgery is the fountain of youth. A 2 percent or 3 percent increase in the length of telomeres is well within the typical margin of error for the tools used to measure them. It will take more robust studies and careful documentation to convince him of the effect, Shay said. “I don’t think the answer is bariatric surgery. People need to take responsibility for their own health." The Stanford researchers say further studies are needed to confirm the effects of weight-loss surgery on telomere lengths — and the direct effects of telomere length on actual health results. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/weight-loss-surgery-may-reverse-signs-aging-docs-say-2D11600482 -
I deleted and reactivate and still having the same issues
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Is It Me Or ....
McButterpants replied to Simpley_ke's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have had ups and down - sometimes I am very patient and not reactive at all. Others, OMG, I go off at the smallest thing. -
Question For Those With Serious Lap Band Problems
DELETE THIS ACCOUNT! replied to Christina.Rose's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I've never had a complication, but I can share what I've learned over the last two years. can you feel a difference between vomiting vs PB? I know the health complications related to vomit, and I also am not asking about the flu etc. -There is a big difference between PBing and vomiting. PBing is a gentle burping up of stuck food. Vomiting is a forceful retching. When you PB, it's literally just a burp that brings up food, almost like when you think of a baby spitting up. When you vomit, it makes your stomach contract and forcefully spasm. It's that forceful, violent nature of vomiting that is so dangerous because it can lead to a slip. Did anyone feel Ok but were told you slipped or eroded etc? -It's uncommon but you can have serious complications without pain or significant symptoms. How fast is papaya enzyme or pineapple juice supposed to clear you from being stuck? -It can take minutes or hours to resolve a stuck episode depending on the severity. However, if you're having them regularly, you should probably evaluate your eating habits to make sure you're not taking too big of a bite or eating too much. Stuck episodes shouldn't be a 'regular' thing. If you are having concerns about your band, call your doctor. It's always better to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to matters of health. Good luck.