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Demographics - Opinions - Weighing Options (no pun intended)
Berry78 replied to P-Diddy's topic in The Guys’ Room
Whew! Dodged the bullet on that erroneous heart attack thing.. Doc: "Sir, I have good news! You didn't have a heart attack!" You: "What heart attack?" Excellent plan losing as much as you can before surgery.... and keto will get you there! -
Did anyone go crazy before pre op diet started?
TattooedSeaStar replied to kg2519's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I did that along the way. My therapist recommended doing one a week so it’s more like a cheat meal than a freak out. Than I could enjoy the meal and not feel guilt. I get really sick on Keto (which is what my preop liquid diet was) so I decided to start Jan 2 eating keto food so that I can get over the keto flu before going back to work. On Jan 13 I started liquid and it went really well. My surgery was Jan 27, so I’m a week out tomorrow. My doctor said my liver looked really good, but I had been doing keto for almost a month (he has us do keto to shrink our liver). I say all that to say this- BE CAREFUL. Going crazy over food will make you feel deprived when you start liquid. Say goodbye and make peace with it but don’t binge. -
Yesterday Thursday, Jan 16 Maintenance : 5'2" / 1yr PO Sleeve / 114.9 lbs ---------------------------------------- Man, thank goodness I have all these Keto chocolate snacks, otherwise I would be going to town on Mr & the KId's stash of REAL chocolate... ---------------------------------------- 9:30am - 1 black coffee w/ stevia 12:00pm - 1 skinny tea latte 2:00pm - salad w/ vinaigrette + cucumber + carrots + yellow bell peppers + red onions + 3 oz avocado + 1/2 cup cashews + 1/2 oz almonds + 5 oz pan fried chicken + 1 tsp crunchy chili oil 7:00pm - 7 oz assorted sashimi + 2 slices beef tataki + tamari + wasabi paste 9:00pm - skinny tea latte + 1 KETO choco-coconut fat bomb + 1 KETO ChocoLin flax cookie + 1/2 tbsp almond butter + 1 fl oz garlic peanuts + 1 oz dark chocolate ---------------------------------------- Totals: 1475 cals - 105g Protein - 42g NET carbs - 92g fat
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Yesterday, Mobday, Dec. 9 Maintenance : 5'2" / 1yr PO Sleeve / 115.8 lbs ---------------------------------------- For the past several weeks, I've noticed my coffee consumption has grown exponentially. Yesterday I had TWO LARGE coffees before noon. That's a total 40 fl oz of coffee, just in the morning, LOL. Oh, and I did it again: had a stinkin' Kinder Advent Calendar chocolate yesterday. But at least this time I didn't go nuts on nighttime snacking afterwards... ---------------------------------------- 9:30am - 2 coffees w/ stevia 12:00pm - salad w/ vinaigrette + cucumber + 1/2 oz cheddar cheese + 1 tbsp pumpkin seeds + 6 oz grilled chicken 3:00pm - 1/2 cup cottage cheese + 1 tbsp pumpkin seeds + 1 oz blueberries + 1.5 oz beef jerky 5:30pm - 1/2 cup cottage cheese + 1 tbsp pumpkin seeds + 2 oz blueberries + 1 oz chicharron + 1oz beef jerky + 1 mini Kinder Chocolate Advent Calendar Egg. 9:00pm salad w/ vinaigrette + carrots + 5.5 oz Keto bacon-wrapped meatloaf + 1.5 tbsp non-Keto glaze + 2 Keto Coconut Macadamia Fat Bombs ---------------------------------------- Totals: 1755 cals - 152g Protein - 63g NET carbs - 89g fat
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Husband told people about surgery
A_new_sara replied to M.A.'s topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
People have no idea I've had it. Why? Because months before my surgery I started the keto diet, and working out. I was losing weight like crazy! I haven't changed one thing since my surgery, including my portions. Everyone assumes it's just the keto diet. (which is it, along with portion control). I've lost 65 lbs total and I go to the gym 6 days a week. It's obvious that I'm working my ass off to lose weight. So, no, people don't just "know" -
Gastric Sleevr Vs. Bypass
ms.sss replied to NYCGirl9269's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
- if both surgeries are just as easy to fail as they are to succeed, why do the research charts show this difference? Research is based on averages. The numbers you are quoting do not apply to everyone in exactly the same way....it is an aggregate of those who reach goal AND those who don’t. 1 person loses 100 lbs. Another loses 40 lbs. Average weight loss of this “control group” is 70lbs...which is no where near what each person actually lost. @catwoman7 probably explained this better than me In her earlier post, lol Second, if you need to rely on averages for your peace of mind, it may be worth your while then to look into the makeup of the studied. Age, gender, starting weight, lifestyle habits, medical conditions, genetics, etc. Daunting, yes, but more informative and contextual. But really, wanna beat the average? Stick to plan more consistently than the “average” person (barring any medical conditions of course). Also, I wanted to ask, did you get to choose the size boujie you wanted for your sleeve or know what size Dr used for you?? Doc just did his thing with no input from me. I have no idea how what size he used! Also, did you cravings and hunger completely return after 6 months or it does but slightly? My hunger levels and occurrences has not returned to pre-op levels. I can’t remember when I first felt hungry though (it was months in)...but I do remember it was a rare occurrence. Even now at 2+ years out, i still have days of just not wanting/forgetting to eat. When i do get hungry, it isn’t the ravenous kind of hunger though. And it doesn’t take much to satisfy it. Lastly, can you just do complete Keto during the first year after surgery so you stay under 20 net carbs and in ketosis? Or our body doesn't need to be in fat burning mode because of the surgery? I didnt do full-on Keto during weight-loss phase because there was no way I could get in the percentage of fat required...but I did do ultra-low carb (20 net carbs max) during that time. But number of grams of carbs consumed is no where near as important as total calories consumed for weight loss. Though going low carb does tend to make me look lean. For my body this is good, cuz i can see more muscle definition, but for my face, not so good, as I look Skelator-ish. Since I have been consuming a higher number of net carbs (anywhere in the 100-175 range) my face looks much nicer, but the bod looks “soft” P.S. sorry this was so long -
Hi Cedybug I just had sleeve surgery on October 3. I told my husband to just come and visit me after the surgery. I got dropped off at the hospital by a friend. Personally.. I didn't feel like i wanted a lot of people around me. But a few hours of post surgery help were useful, especially for getting showered and dressed, and taking tiny walks. I was a bit short of breath and had a hard time talking to people. The pre-op diet was not as bad as I thought, although it was certainly the toughest part so far (except for pain meds for me). I got the "keto-flu" on the second day and it lasted for another two days, with headaches and a bit of grumpiness and miserableness. Just like the flu. Honestly, after two days I didn't feel hungry at all, although I seemed to think about food a lot and dream about food. But the dramatic drop in carbs does amazing things to the body! I haven't thrown up or felt nauseated once. I was bloated and did a big happy dance when I had my first post-op poo. Yay! I am not hungry at all and its an incredible feeling of freedom. I haven't had any social occasions to deal with yet, but I think I will just order some broth or skim milk. It will be enough. I know I will get some odd looks which is why I'm avoiding any socializing for as long as possible. I'm not sure if my story helps you.. but the takeaway is that the pre-op nerves and diet were worse for me that immediate post-op, and they weren't even really that bad. I'm really excited about the changes to come. If you have come this far, and taken all the right counselling steps, you are probably ready.
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Liquid Diet vs High Protein diet
Arabesque replied to Journeyoflove's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It’s always best to follow the diet you were given as it will be to follow their post surgical plan. As @liveaboard15 said different surgeons require different diets. My surgeon would put different patients on different diets based on the amount of weight they had to lose, their weight loss history & their medical history. So my friend was on all shakes, her friend was on two shakes & a meal & I was on keto. You can always ask your surgeon why he requires you to follow the all shake diet. The first five or so days are the hardest as you break some addictions & dependencies. You may headaches, low energy, etc. almost like withdrawal symptoms but better to get past this before surgery than after. Some people slip on their pre surgical diet. A slip is okay but regularly going off plan isn’t. The diet is required so you lose some weight to improve your health, reduce fat around your liver so your tummy can be seen more easily during surgery &, as above, break some habits & food dependencies. You can do it. It’s only two weeks. Some have to do it for three or more weeks. -
November 2023 surgery buddies
ChunkCat replied to Italiano26's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
You need some electrolyte powders to mix in your water. Look for one with a good amount of potassium and magnesium. It stops the "keto flu" symptoms like fatigue and headaches! A lot of people underestimate them. I did 3 weeks of a pre-op diet with no headaches or muscle cramps after the first day because I started taking those handy little powders! They help post-op too. -
Anyone for October 2020?
Yray replied to barbieater's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Happy new year everyone. May 2021 be the best year YET! More or less this has been my meals: 7am Protein shake 10 am one Scrambled egg with milk this makes it soft 12 2 oz of protein sometimes I’ll have a little veggie or mash 3 snack like cottage cheese, string cheese or keto friendly snacks 6 2 oz protein sometimes I’ll have a veggie or mash 8 protein shake Water in between meals and snack If I’m hungry before bed I’ll usually add a scrambled egg -
Started feeling a bit jittery
ummyasmin replied to ummyasmin's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Snap! I'm 11 months out with Dr De Bruyne, so we have been on a similar journey. Although when the doc took it my blood pressure was normal, I have been getting orthostatic hypotension for the past few months so I do wonder if it's related. I've much improved since going keto so I just wonder if I've become ultra sensitive to carbs. It's a bit weird having changes this far out from surgery hey. Hope you feel better soon too! -
Thank you for letting me know… did your nutrition tell you to be on a keto diet for a year after surgery. I just made up my own food selection. I better look at the paperwork… I don’t want to gain anything back.
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I have to keep at or below 129kg (284lbs), but otherwise, there has been no specific diet that they've told me to be on. I got down to 124kg, but I am, as of this morning, back up to 133kg, so I am kind of in a panic. I know it's mostly water weight, but I'm terrified that they will send me home on the day of if I am not where I am supposed to be. Since my original date was postponed due to the pandemic, I have been messing up my personal diet pretty badly. I am "good" for a few days and then I get overwhelming stress and turn right back to food. I plan on going to a therapist after surgery to help find better ways to cope. I will probably switch to a keto diet if I don't see a dramatic amount of weight loss over the next few days here..
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The gas pain was only for about an hour. I have some soreness in the area where the hernia was repaired, but that's not very bad. Nothing Tylenol can't keep at bay. I'm allowed to eat pureed foods, but I'm really not hungry. Ate some mashed potatoes & gravy yesterday, it tasted good, but I only ate it because I thought I should not because I really wanted it. Drinking 1/2 a low carb slim fast now. I guess knowing I can have other stuff makes it less desirable. LOL. I haven't really been hungry since I started the pre op Clear liquids. I think when the ketones kick in the hunger wanes. After my surgery I could actually smell my keto breath. Yuck!
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Questions about bariatric surgery
blizair09 replied to skyewolfe's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I had the sleeve surgery on September 28, 2016. My insurance required me to do a six month pre-op diet program. I began that in March 2016. I lost 99 pounds (from 397 to 298) during the six months leading up to surgery day following a keto way of eating. I have continued that keto diet post-op (even during the food stages), and I have lost an additional 105 pounds, for a 204 pound loss total. I weigh 193 right now, and I am 13 pounds from my goal of 180 at approximately 9 months post-op. I'll echo what some of the others have said -- the surgery (regardless of which one you choose) is only a tool and will only do so much for you. You have to have the grit, drive, and perseverance inside of you to win the mental game which is the really tough part post-op. There are ways to eat around any of the surgeries, and you have to get your mind in the right place to do what you need to do at all times. That is what brings success long-term. These forums are full of people who were mentally unprepared, never changed their relationship with food, and either never reached their goal or gained most of their weight back. Also, the journey is slow and arduous, full of stalls and plateaus, and requires patience and keeping the big picture in mind at all times. Good luck as you make your decision! Any of the surgeries can be life changing if you put in the hard work necessary. -
September surgery buddies!!
nymisc replied to Slwhurst's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I bought a cookbook called Southern Keto and it has an awesome taco soup recipe in it. I am leaning towards soft foods though. I made it and then blended it down to pureed. Soooo good. Making it again this week. My family eats it not blended. I am also making a recipe from pinterest right now. Look at soft foods and then blend. -
How Dod Your Marriage Improve?
bitingcat replied to clevergirl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
My husband is also heavy - though not as much as me. He had been doing really well biking after knee surgery a couple years back - lost a lot of weight, getting fit - before getting totally derailed with a badly broken arm. My surgery finally pushed him into trying keto and he's been losing weight almost as fast as I have. He's also been cooking more - mostly meat and veg - and even our teenagers can't stand against a united parental front of "no junk!" We also have one of these, which is great when one person is more fit/just a stronger cyclist (we lucked out and found one on Craigslist). I'm really looking forward to using this for longer rides once my health improves! Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App -
Hi June folks, Im hanging in there. I think we all have are good days and bad days but I try to focus on the good and why I decided to do this. I think once we all make it closer to that 1 year mark things will become alot easier. I have my stalls as well and it use to get to me but now I just stay consistent, make adjustments from time to time and continue to work out. During those stalls I still notice a change in my clothes, so eventho i didnt loose weight or gained a few pounds clothes are still getting closer, its weird. For those having stalls for long periods of time try tracker your food, I stay away from Protein power and anything that says Keto. That made a difference for me. Hang in there guys.
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September surgery buddies!!
Hope4NewMe replied to Slwhurst's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thinning it down might help make it so I can eat it post-op since they aren't as worried about the carbs after. So I will definitely try that. I love keto chow, or at least I did when I was doing the keto diet a few years back. I only tried the shakes though. I might have to look into those soups, ty! -
I’m struggling to but I’m like forget it lol. I would prefer a list of what to eat but they said start adding things. I scan everything I buy to make sure it’s ok. The pork rinds are great for that chip craving but I only eat like 4. Great protein. For me I’m just trying things out and seeing if they work. Still pretty bland but I have had shrimp and ground beef tacos on those keto street tacos. This week flavored drinks are giving me problems so only water right now doesn’t make my stomach gurgling. It’s all new but we getting there.
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My husband is diabetic and has chronic pain, so he did a lot of research and decided he wanted to try "The Carnivore Diet" to reduce his A1C/sugar and also reduce his chronic inflammation. He's been very supportive of my WLS and efforts, so I wanted to support him too, so I'm doing it with him. I started Sunday, he started yesterday. I'd been in a stall or had somehow ended up in maintenance for the last two months, so I'm willing to try ANYTHING to get the weight loss moving again. I've already lost 3 pounds in 2 days, so that's a good start. I was shocked because I had double the usual number of calories yesterday (1350 instead of 775) but maybe my body was in starvation mode and I needed to up the calories to lose weight. The "Carnivore" Diet is very similar to Atkins or Keto, but you basically just eat meat and drink water. It's a zero carb diet. Now I know that the ultimate answer is "all things in moderation," but I think that for the short-term, like 30 or 60 days, I can do this, maybe lose some weight, support my husband and get healthier.
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Gastric Sleevr Vs. Bypass
kelly Lake replied to NYCGirl9269's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I have accepted tgat my future eating habits will never look anything like my old eating and tgats how I got to 313 in the first place. Tge surgery really is just 1 tool to help you reach your weightloss goals. I don't eat a lot of carbs at all, less than 60-65 grams a day 70-75 if I exercise that day. I don't really do keto as we can't have all that high fat and its not healthy long term. I just find creative ways to satisfy my favorite food cravings and whatever I "think" I can eat I put half that on my plate. If you eat sugary starchy foods more & more gradually on the regular you will decrease the amt that tgey bother you or cause dumping thus making it easier to incorporate them daily and putting weight back on. I lose 2.7 lbs a week on avg on about 600-800 cal a day but my day is mostly Protien then veggies with healthy fats and a small amt of fruits and carbs. I have been speaking with a councelor ev 2 weeks and my Nutritionist every month to make sure I stay focused, satisfied and don't make the wrong choices destroying my chances of success. Snacking is my biggest issue, Sugar free candies, Skinny Pop corn, popsicles, beef jerky, cheese sticks etc. I had to get all snacks out of my room, car and severely limit the amt I buy myself. I can easily stall if I snack on the wrong foods.. I had an eating disorder in my 20s and I had to totally rebuild my relationship with food, its still hard but being disabled and in pain daily was harder. -
Read the ingredients, I've found that some of those cauliflower crusts have rice flour, or other alternative flours which have equally as much if not more carbs. Check out Pinterest for keto pizza crusts which use some great alternatives and truly low carb pizza crusts
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Why I eat baked potatoes, brown rice and whole grain bread
JessLess replied to Creekimp13's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I liked your post because I like carbs. But eating too many carbs, "bad" carbs, calories, sugar, fried food, ethnic food, etc. got me to the point where I hopped under the knife Monday. I think the research and trends on diets go in cycles and obviously different things work for different people. Weight loss research is particularly hard to parse because entities like food and drug companies fund a lot of the research. In the 80s many dieters were on low fat diets. Fat was a dirty word and we ate carbs, did aerobics, and some lost weight. Now some of my friends are doing keto and some are doing high protein. I've been told there may still be small amounts of tortellini in my healthy future. And I'm happy about that. -
Forget snacks entirely unless they are protein or vegetable. They grease the slippery slope to regaining what you have lost. I speak from experience. I am approaching RNY revision and I will not make the same mistakes again. The pre-op food plan and the (clear/full liquid/puree) stages post op while we are not getting hungry give us the opportunity to establish a new way of eating. If we seek sugar-free or keto snacks we are merely making some substitutes for the OLD way of eating. It's too easy to find ourselves eating sugared and carbohydrate snacks and food when we don't happen to have the "-free" type. Just because substitute snack foods are sold on bariatric sites does not mean they are good for us. If we are wise we will ignore those products. Eat whole foods, fresh or frozen vegetables and fruits, quality poultry and meat products. Avoid sugar, sugar substitutes, wheat/flour products, and processed foods. We can get plenty of tasty food to eat with these choices. I encourage you to obtain and read these two books by Dr. Matthew Weiner: A Pound of Cure and The Bariatric Guide and Cookbook. There are lots of other bariatric cookbooks available, too, including some for Air Fryers, InstaPots, and CrockPots. These will help you learn your new way of eating.