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Sleeve vs. Gastric Bypass
MegInNOLA replied to Ready4aNewLife's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hi there! My sister, her husband, and her daughter have all had bypass. My husband has had the sleeve. Of these four, the three with bypass have all had some form of complication or other (iron deficiency anemia, bleeding ulcers, and Vitamin deficiency)--and my husband has had no problems at all. I know the bypass has been the surgery of choice for years, but I really didn't even consider surgery prior to learning about the sleeve.... I wanted to keep the top and bottom of the stomach intact--less chance of acid issues, ulcers, etc.--and all I really needed is volume restriction. As others have said, the decision of whether or not to have surgery and which type is a very personal one. Do what's best for you.. Best wishes! Meg -
I am almost 10 months out, reached goal in just under five months and at 6 months I was five lbs under goal. Now I am 12 lbs under and work to not keep losing. I still weigh and measure my food. You are doing great! I agree, we need to know what you are eating and how much. I never counted carbs, that is not something my doctor and dietitian has us do, but I do an on line log that keeps track of my protein and calories....it also tracks the carbs. I look at it but don't worry. I watch calories and protein. My concern was not losing my hair. A girl has her priorities, right??!!! Right now I can eat a half cup of cottage cheese, I've been able to eat a half cup for a few months now. I was worried at first but after some reassurance, I realize that as time goes on, it is normal to be able to eat more. I do still feel quite a bit of restriction, but I can definitely eat more than before. Give us more details!! As far as RNY - I'm the only one I personally know that has had the sleeve. Two friends are banded, one kept it for 6 weeks, had severe problems and had it removed. The other one is going on five years and started regaining a year ago. I know 12 people from my home town that have had bypass surgery....ONE is doing great. The others.....some never reached goal, the others have gained some of the weight back. Some more than others. I think it may be great for some, but I didn't even consider it because of the ones I personally know. Just sayin'
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In process of completing pre-ops
perfektlynrml replied to perfektlynrml's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My concern is that if I do the bypass, I will lose more then I need to. That the reason I was leaning towards the sleeve. I guess it’s best to wait for my endoscopy and see how that factors into the procedure I need. -
I was wondering the same thing! My lap band surgery was my only surgery experience and it was AWFUL! I've read that alot of people say that about lap band vs the sleeve revision. Maybe its because you know kind of what to expect. Anyhow, I am super excited and lets see what happens!!!!!! Hugs to you all! xoxoxoxo
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Jacqui, I agree with you. Unless they (government) are looking at it as just a monitoring process to see what happens with these kids. I do know in my own family, when you look at pictures of my mom and sister as babies, they were already fat. Now my mom is one of 8 and only her other sister (6 boys!) had/have weight problems. My sister is younger than I am and we both ate the same foods. She was born a normal, healthy weight (we were both within ounces of each other) but by the time she was a year, she was a fat baby. Me, on the other hand, had NO weight issues (other than my own perception of being the smallest fattie in a family of fatties, when I was anything BUT fat) until I hit my 20's. Then I started gaining. My mom and sister both had bypass 5 and 8 years ago. Both had tried everything to lose weight. Nothing worked for them. They couldn't even LOSE weight! They both have done great with their surgeries. My sister has had 3 more kids since her surgery. I was able to lose weight but couldn't keep it off. DD was adopted and I have no clue about her birthfather, but her birthmother's family is all normal sized with a few minor weight issues (say 10-20 over weight, kinda thing). Even at 2 she loves sports and being active so I'm hoping just by teaching her well, how to eat and how to be active (and getting healthy myself) that even if she does end up with some extra weight, she'll be able to control it and not have serious issues. We'll see. Anyway, just a picture of my family. Kind of both sides of the coin that Jacqui was talking about. Sorry it's so long. I talk too much! LOL!
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Dear Alexandra, Our meeting, mostly made up of Dr. Borao's WLS patients and prospective patients, is at Monmouth Medical Center, Long Branch, NJ. We meet on the 4th Thursday each month, from 7 to 9. Anyone interested in joining our group (please do!) can call the surgery center for info: call 732-923-6070. We do have one Dr. Abkin patient who comes to our meeting. She lives in Toms River; so, this one is closer for her. She also likes our meetings. We had Gary, too, and a woman named Susan at our meeting. Yes, I think it's kind of neat that we USA bandsters are in on the early stages of the band in our country, and we're getting a lot of necesary attention from INAMED who wants to make certain their product is well-supported. Gary and Susan provided a wealth of information supporting our choice to have the band vs. bypass. And I was so comforted to hear that everywhere else in the world, the band is the "gold standard" for WLS. It is only in America that bypass is still considered the "gold standard". Did Gary tell your group that there are bypassers who have gained back their weight and have added a band to their bypass so that they can lose weight? That blew my mind! I always thought it might work the other way around. I feel so good about my choice now. Thanks for your consistent support, Candy
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LOL. I relate more to Dixie I think. When God said "Let there be light" I flipped on the switch. I'm 63 years old and my dr. wants me to think about lap banding. If I call you 40 year olds kids take it as a compliment. I have 5 girls, the oldest of which is 43 and the youngest is 25. I have a daughter 39 that had gastric bypass surgery 3 years ago. She is doing well, but she was much younger than me having surgery. She has some problems with dumping syndrome and getting really sweaty and overly hungry. She has to eat about 4 small portions a day or she feels weak. I'm hoping that doesn't happen with banding. My dr. said an absolute and positive NO to gastric bypass, but gave me the go ahead on lap banding and is all for it. I was checking to see if there were any older people on here, but thank you all for responding. Dixie, I've never been to Texas, but I love the area you are in because horseracing is my passion and I think you are around the home of Lone Star Park. It's my dream to go there someday.
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Hello, I am new at this.
erp replied to Iwanttofitinmyweddingdress's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
"I do not know what is better, the Gastric Bypass or the Vertical Sleeve." I would ask your doctor that question. Based on his/her exam of you, your mental health history. and eating patterns. Your bariatric team should have a recommendation. "If I drink nothing but Protein shakes for 4 months along with Water, would I lose faster while exercising?" Sure, you could do that right now and lose weight but if you won't commit to shakes and exercise now, will you after surgery? "Oh I know I got to do it for myself, I have a wedding coming up in 2019 and I want to be able to fit in my wedding dress and to live a healthy life" Actually every answer you gave was an external or short term reason on why you want WL surgery: your mom, a wedding dress, prove to others that you can lose weight. If you really want to live a healthy lifestyle, you wouldn't think that drinking nothing but Protein Shakes for four months is healthy. If you were doing this for you, you would talk about you. So here's my suggestion, start going to a counselor who specializes in weight loss. It's not that you shouldn't have surgery but when all those short term goals or your need for approval from others is met, then what? Best of luck to you on your journey. -
Sleeve or Bypass? Decisions, Decisions
Dubai Scouser replied to Dubai Scouser's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Thanks everyone for all you advise. I too have about 140lbs to lose so it's great to hear from someone in. Similar position. Once I had the band removed the reflux stopped immediately and I've not suffered at all since. I am due to have an endoscope in May to check for a hernia and for my surgeon to check my insides after having previous lap band surgery. I am swaying more and more each day to have the sleeve as I believe that the only complication am likely to have is the reflux reoccurring. However with the bypass I have a huge list of complications that may arise in the short and long term plus the malabsorption. I'm sure I will be filling you all in on my decision soon enough. -
In process of completing pre-ops
catwoman7 replied to perfektlynrml's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I did the bypass specifically because I had GERD before I had surgery, and I didn't want to risk it getting worse. RNY often improves if not outright cures GERD, whereas VSG can make it worse (it doesn't always - and it only happens to a minority of people, but it's a significant enough minority that surgeons will often recommend that heartburn sufferers go with the bypass). I've been very happy with the bypass. -
I know many people have had their lives saved by the RNY, so I don't mean to talk it down at all. I just couldn't do it... and here is my partial list: - I was a revision from the band, and the complications revising to the rny were much riskier - I had a pouch when i was banded and it SUCKED. I have no idea if the pouch for the RNY behaves the same way, but I suspect it does. I don't want to vomit up food for unpredictable reasons. I spent 10 years in that hell and decided I just couldn't do it. - Mentally, I could get used to the idea that my stomach was too big and just needed to be reduced but i could never get comfortable with the RNY procedure - gave me the heebie geebies. Irrational, yes, but it was a key factor. -20 years ago the woman who was our daycare provider had the RNY. In those days they were done open, so recovery was a big huge deal. I know it isn't the same now, but i can't quite shake the memories of how ill she was and how long it took her to recover (she looked awesome though, lost all of her excess weight!) - I was convinced by the studies available that my chances of success are nearly as good with the sleeve compared to the RNY, but my risks were considerably lower. That just made sense to me. One piece of advice is to consider a surgeon who has a thriving "sleeve" practice. I did that and feel that their after care and all that was spot on for a sleever.
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Will I regain the weigth?
Threetimesacharm replied to Canadian lady's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Well yes you could regain weight; the surgery only helps you eat smaller portions it does not chose the food you eat. As someone who has had the sleeve and now the bypass I suggest you go with bypass, personally I believe it has better weight keeping off abilities than the sleeve. You shouldn't be hungry in fact I have a hard time consuming my calories as I really don't feel like it. With the sleeve I was never really hungry and I had it for 3 years. If you research how the surgeries are performed the bypass has rerouting that has a major effect on the stomach hunger hormone(I can't explain it would be better to read about it). Good luck in your decision. -
I was also pretty athletic in my younger days but the most I did through my 20's and 30's was sporadic gym memberships in which i did the same kind of half arsed "fat burning zone" useless workouts that half the people in the gym do or walking. Since being banded, i work out probably four times as hard as I did and I do it consistently and regularly - mostly running and circuit training. I consider "fun" doing thingsl iek we did the other day - walkign the thousand steps, a 2.5km climb up the side of Melbourne's Mt Dandenong. But I'd argue that the choice ISNT lapbanding and exercise or gastric bypass and no exercise. Who wants to be a skinny bag of skin, a muscleless blob?. If you have GBP you STILL should exercise. No exercise = a pretty average weight loss result for most people, either it doesnt come off or it does and you look like a skeleton lost in a huge bag of skin.
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Newbie, pre-op questions
della street replied to della street's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Thanks all! Like I said, I'm sure these have been answered a zillion times, but I couldn't find the info condensed anywhere, so I really appreciate you taking the time to offer info and advice -- Debbie, re the question about insurance: I'm in Arizona. The Marketplace has about five companies (maybe 6-7?) and as with all states, they each offer Bronze, Silver, Gold and some offer Platinum plans. Of course, the lower-level plans have high deductibles generally and usually higher out-of-pocket maximums - but they are cheaper per month on premiums and great to have in case of serious illness/surgery. That said, I don't know whether they all cover WLS or not, but I went to an insurance broker (free to the consumer; they're paid by the insurance companies that they sell policies for...), explained what I was looking for (a policy that covered WLS, had a reasonable monthly premium, and the lowest out-of-pocket maximum I could afford. Yada yada yada - he did some searching and we found a BCBS plan that will keep my out-of-pocket max to $3000/year. Premium is about $550/month -- but -- by not having hubby include me on his employer plan (which specifically excludes WLS), we save about $200/month on that, so the net cost to us is about $350/month. I am going with a Center of Excellence, for either the sleeve or bypass -- not sure yet. There have been many years when the extra $350/month would not have been do-able financially, but fortunately, we're at a place right now where it is. I feel like the brass ring is within reach and just want to get it all finalized -- the insurance, the surgery to-do's, the surgery itself... -
Revision From VSG to RNY September 28
manitobamama posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
So I am a week out of surgery. First couple of days it felt like I did 10 000 sit ups. Today it feels like only doing 500. Got my walking down, sipping my liquids but need to sip a lot more to meet my goal. I know it doesn't happen overnight. I start each day with a Boost Diabetic Protein drink. Nice to see there is an app for this. Hope I get to know others here. Cheers manitobamama -
How's everyone doing? I'm down another 6lbs since my dec 29th post. Little frustrated to only lose 6lbs in a month when I see so many people with big numbers. And being back at work have a co-worker get gastric bypass 2wks before my sleeve and she's down 45 and I'm down 23. Gonna start the gym next week with a personal trainer, doctor says in free and clear with no restrictions.
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I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG!
hapydayz replied to Melly26's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
That is crazy! I am glad that you got the revision and it is working right now. Good for you for loosing 20 pounds anyway! Excited to hear how it goes for you now! Good luck! -
Cannot decide if surgery is for me
Pinkgirl1234 replied to Cjc2016's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I tried and tried and Everytime I tried the latest diet I lost then regained ...The lapband was a nightmare as well...my friends who had the sleeve or bypass years ago are all doing well. -
Hi all; I had my band out last wednesday. Before the band removal, my doc said that in 1-2 months after the band removal that we could do the sleeve revision. I went back in for a post-op check up today, and now he is talking 2 months! He didnt give any emperical evidence about why we need to wait 2 months, he just said that this was just a post-op visit, and that we needed to start the bariatric surgery back from the beginning about getting me qualified, etc. I brought out the big guns and told him my company was talking about layoffs(what else is new, right?, but they really ar), the time frame is may-june, and that since I know I have coverage with my current insurance, I wanted to make sure it was done before that happened. He didnt appear particularly moved with my argument. I am BUMMED. I was hoping to come away with a date today since we both went in knowing I was getting the revision and not just the band removed. Sigh.... Another trip back to him on Monday with the packet for the bariatric work up. I was hoping to finish the summer with most of my weight gone, not sure where it stands now. blech Lisa
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Had gastric bypass this Past Monday 2/24. Surgery went off without a hitch; was discharged home after 2 days. Clear liquid diet going well, but the scale isn't moving. Is it too soon?
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Biggest Loser last night
ladyrider replied to sleeve 4 me's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The doctor did say that when you lose weight that fast that you lose muscle tissue, so that when you gain it back, you gain back all fat...being 14 and with unsupportive parents she probably wasn't taught much about exercise or nutrition. I never understood how a person can gain weight back after a bypass. -
Seconds of stomach pains...
LisaNLasVegas replied to fccm04's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I currently have a band - gettin a revision to the sleeve on Aug. 5. WIth me, those pains occur when something is getting stuck or a little too big of a bite - it was from my esophagus having spasms because of the stress of getting something down. WIth the band, it is/was a common pain. I'm not so sure if it is normal with the sleeve. I hope not, because one of the reasons I am getting a revision to the sleeve is because I don't want to be in pain every time I eat!! I hope it goes away soon. Try to eat slower - even smaller bites in the beginning. -
Stretching the Definition of Clear Liquids By Eating The Liquid Part of Soups?
ElfiePoo replied to 1970MaleJaxFL's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
No, you aren't stretching the definition and you didn't mess up. Some doctors put their band patients on the same diet as their bypass patients but there's really no reason for it. Many of us go through the stages in 2-3 days and are back on solids by 2 weeks postop. If you can follow a month long journey back to solid food, more power to you. Just don't stress that you've somehow done damage to your band or to your stomach. -
having second thoughts
HappyCamper replied to cindywy1's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I agree with make 33, take your husband and son to an informational seminar with you. My husband wasn't keen on me having lap-band surgery, but he went with me to the informational seminar and then he supported me 100%. A lot of people hear "weight loss surgery" and think it's all drastic like the bypass. The seminar will help answer their questions and calm their fears. -
what are you afraid of? The procedure? I don't know if this will help you, but I have never had any kind of anything done to me. No broken bones no surgeries. In fact the only time I have been in the hospital is One over night stay for the birth of my son and to visit other people LOL I am so convinced this is soooo safe that I am not scared in the least. My Dr told me the worst thing that he has happen is three of people had infection around the port area and they just go in and move it to a different location. For me the positive far out way the negative. Ultimately you have to do what is best for you. I would not even consider bypass the risk were to high for me but many people have had it done...it's not for me though. This on the other hand I can do. My biggest worry is, if I will be in alot of pain after wards. Do more research, talk to more people, people who have had it done, talk to your doctors. I did so much research and have read through these forums and my PCP Dr, one of her nurses had bypass I talked to her about it even though it was bypass. I hope this helps. I haven't been approved yet so my help and advise can only so far.
