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GULP - Confessions and accountability - New week starts today
Arabesque replied to MandoGetsSleeved's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Aah the dangerous slide of becoming complacent &/or over confident. We’ve all been there at some time in our pre & post surgery lives. Don’t get too down on yourself especially as you’ve realised what happened & are ready to get back on track. Sometimes a good way to start is to just drop or change one thing. Then next week you change or drop another. Small wins. What I’ve learnt from those on this forum who are a long way post surgery is that they continue to track & monitor & make adjustments according to what’s happening in their life. I try to do this too. Sure, I don’t track & measure my food every day but I do random reviews of what I’m eating & carefully monitor new additions to my food choices. I’m very conscious about everything I put in my mouth - nutrients, protein content, calories. I do track my protein & water intake every day. If I eat more one day I try to eat less the next. If I was under on my protein yesterday, today I’ll aim to be over. Unfortunately, I think we will always face challenges with food. We just have to keep focussed on making sure it doesn’t win. That’s my goal now anyway. -
Energy drinks??
Kaguragetshealthy_87 replied to CM1234's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Vitamin water energy has 60mg of caffeine and is 100 calories for 20fl oz. -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
Tony B - NJ replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I have to agree with all the posts on this. I could not imagine going down to 800-900 calories per day either. I actually struggle getting more than that in on a daily basis. Yes, if I went crazy and ate fatty foods and fast foods I could, but with healthy food choices, it is very difficult. I eat a lot of fish which is very low in fat and calories and high in protein, particularly tuna and cod. You will not have a problem staying satisfied. -
Alcohol, Roux-NY bypass surgery & other stuff
Sunnyway replied to Splenderella's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I am in agreement with Splenderella. Just to demonstrate that alcohol temperance or abstention must a life-long objective: I had my initial RNY 30 years ago and still cannot drink more than 1 or 2 cocktails or glasses of wine before becoming inebriated. As a result I drink very rarely and stop at one drink. Addiction transference is a real thing for WLS patients. Some become alcoholics after surgery, perhaps because alcohol is a substitute for food addiction, a different coping mechanism. Be cautious with alcohol after surgery and keep track of your drinking behavior. Be honest with your surgeon and dietitian about your alcohol intake. Have your first drink at home in a safe environment. Avoid alcohol for as long as you can, for at least six months post-surgery. Alcohol dehydrates you, so be sure to drink extra water. Stay away from all sweet drinks, which can make you dump. Alcoholic drinks are empty calories, which should be reason enough to abstain. Alcohol hits your bloodstream much faster after surgery so it will affect you much harder. Never drink and drive. The way alcohol affects you after surgery will definitely impair your ability to drive. -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
vikingbeast replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I'm 45, 6 feet tall, and started out at 396 my heaviest (was 366 at the start of the pre-op diet). I am very, very active. Outdoor work, sports, CrossFit. I did track my food and, like you, was on way more than 3,000 calories a day. Now, two months post-op, I am 94 pounds down from my heavy and 64 from the start of the pre-op diet. I eat more than most people—I take in between 1000 and 1400 calories a day, including up to 120 g of carbohydrates, which is unusual for bariatric patients. I am still in the fast-lose "honeymoon" period and am losing 3-5 pounds a week after the initial massive weight dump. And yet... I'm satisfied. Thriving, even. The only thing is the restricted amount means my strength isn't what it was—probably lost about 30% off my PR lifts. I don't really care, because now I can run, and jump, and my palms can touch the floor, and I'm off my meds. I do feel hunger when I haven't eaten in too long, but it's not the gnawing "feed me or I will make your life miserable" HANGRY feeling I would have had before. It's more like... "things are not right, please to be feeding me now." Here are a couple of typical days for me, all approved by my nutritionist: Meal 1: Fairlife Core Power protein shake Meal 2 (post-workout): Oatmeal with protein powder, a bit of maple syrup, blueberries, and raspberries Meal 3: Koussa (summer squash stuffed with ground meat and rice, braised in tomato sauce) Meal 4: Tuna salad on one of those little dense squares of European-style flat rye bread Meal 5: Collagen peptide protein and an apple ---- Meal 1: Fairlife Core Power protein shake Meal 2 (post-workout): Scrambled egg with a bit of cheese, spinach, and hot sauce Meal 3: Ground turkey with sugar-free Korean BBQ sauce, green beans, a bit of rice Meal 4: Skyr (Icelandic nonfat yoghurt) with raspberries Meal 5: Lentils with ham The biggest thing I had to teach myself was that it's okay to leave food on the plate, EVEN IF IT'S JUST ONE TINY BITE. Because the line between "I am full" and "debilitating nausea and acid reflux" is sometimes just that one single bite. -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
STLoser replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Yes! It is a totally foreign concept that I could not imagine either! It still amazes me that I'm satisfied when I eat and get full after such a small amount of food, when it felt like I could never get full before. I never would have been able to feel satisfied or survive on so few calories before I had wls, but the surgery changes everything and it's really no problem now. Yes, you still have to deal with head hunger and cravings, but even that is easier for me since the surgery. You will see! Sent from my Nokia 7.2 using BariatricPal mobile app -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
doobie31 replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Living this life for 50 years, it's just inconceivable that I could ever feel satisfied on even 1300 calories. It's very encouraging seeing so many posts like yours that tell me otherwise. And I realize it's going to take a lot of work on my part, too. Just such a foreign concept right now. -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
Arabesque replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
The calories you need to maintain will depend on many factors like age, gender, metabolic rate, how active you are, height, build, etc. Yes, you will be eating much fewer calories than you did before surgery (but let’s be honest that was why you were overweight - it’s why we all were) but the calories will increase as you progress & are physically able to eat more. To begin, I was eating <300 calories, <900 by goal & now eat about 1300 to maintain at my weight. But I’m also female, older than you, have a small frame & am not very active. It all comes down to that basic equation: to maintain a weight the calories you burn must equal the calories your body burns to function. Eat more than you need you gain. Eat less you lose. If you want to maintain at a lower weight eat fewer calories. If you want to maintain at a higher weight eat more calories. I eat way more food now in a day in terms of volume than I did when I was overweight. I eat way more frequently now too. The difference is the number of calories I eat & the quality of the food I choose to eat. -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
STLoser replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I know for me, at 50 years old and 16 months out from my surgery, I'm up to around 1300 calories a day. Now I don't get that much all the time, but it's what my plan says I should have. Some days it's just hard to eat that much. For the first year I hardly ever got up to 1000. I also never felt unsatisfied with my food and I wasn't hungry for the first 6 months. I weighed 393 at my highest and I'm sure I ate around 3000 calories most days. You'll be amazed how different it is after surgery though. I deal with a lot more cravings and head hunger in the last few months , but I am still losing weight. It's has slowed to about 5 pounds a month, but I'm getting close to my goal so I am very happy. Sent from my Nokia 7.2 using BariatricPal mobile app -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
doobie31 replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Thank you for the suggestions. I've been reading a ton including these boards and will probably check on one of those books as well. Makes sense that a larger person might have a larger calorie goal. Don't know what didn't occur to me. So much more to learn! -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
Sunnyway replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
After the honeymoon period your calorie intake will increase, For a big guy like you, it may be 1500 calories, or more if you are very physically active. My maintenance level is likely to be 1000-1200 calories per day. At 1500, I gain weight. You will learn your way as you progress through the program. Do read as much as possible about WLS so you will know what to expect. Examples: -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
catwoman7 replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
a lot of people lose their sense of hunger for a few weeks or months - plus your stomach will be a lot smaller - so yea - 1000 calories will seem quite filling. Even too much the first few weeks. I pretty much lost interest in food altogether for about the first five months (unfortunately, that didn't last!!). Milk that for all it's worth, because it's never going to be easier to lose weight than when you're not hungry and don't give a flip about food! -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
ShoppGirl replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
For me the pre op diet was the hardest part because post surgery I have zero hunger aside from head hunger. At 8 months out I eat more than 1000 calories most days. I have more like 1200. I am losing still, slowly, but I am 11 pounds from a normal BMI now. Some people at this stage have a calorie goal and some have as few as 6-800 calories I have seen on here but for me this works and my team is happy with my progress. Your team should give you a goal that is realistic and will work for you. -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
Edge13 replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I was in a similar situation as you. 47 years old, 340 lbs (down from 400+), and doing a physical job, playing basketball still, and enjoying life. Then the dreaded D word came up, and I'd seen the diabetic story play out too many times. WLS immediately went from the back of my mind to it's happening. I picked the brain of a friend who'd had it, lurked on forums like this, and had 2 notebook pages of questions for my surgeon, and dietician. To answer your question, the liver shrinking diet prior to surgery tested my soul. Followed that up with the 3 week liquid diet post surgery. Was more bored than anything. Soft foods, on it now, and it's not hard, and extremely satisfying. Not only will you live on fewer calories, but with the proper preparation, the right mindset, and a good support system, you'll thrive. -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
Jaelzion replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
It's really common for people to experience an immediate drop in apetite right after surgery. This can last from a few weeks to forever, it just depends on how your body reacts. I lost my apetite for most of the first year and then it slowly returned until now it is about 65% of what it was pre-surgery. When I had very little apetite, it was easy to live on 600 calories and I did for months. Then it went up to 800 calories and stayed there pretty much until I hit goal. I was blessed not to be hungry during the weight loss phase, but some people never do lose their apetite. So you won't know exactly how your body is going to react until you are post-op. But if you have the average experience, there will be at least some period of time when your apetite is greatly diminished. -
Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
Sunnyway replied to doobie31's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Immediately post surgery you may eat only 300-500 calories, but your intake will increase as you transition to soft and pureed foods and finally to "real" food. Yes, you will feel satisfied by this minimal intake. Enjoy the restriction and weight loss because it won't last forever. Learn to recognize when your pouch is full and STOP immediately. You also need to learn how to prepare and cook food appropriate for your new body. There are lots of bariatric recipes online and bariatric cookbooks are available on Amazon and elsewhere. -
I am still waiting to know if insurance will pay for the surgery, but I have started the pre-op diet, done all the last minute pre-op tests. The office said that they are confident it will be approved but it takes time. 🤷♀️ Or maybe it’s been approved and no one told me. My short term disability / fmla leave was approved though! After 2 days on the 700 calorie low carb (30g) liquid diet, I am completely off my insulin. Makes me wonder why I haven’t just been living off of protein shakes since I seem to do so well with them! 😅
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Am I really going to live on 1000 calories?
doobie31 posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I'm a 50 year old male, 6'1, weight 425 pounds. I'm healthy, exercise regularly, but I'm unable to control my weight so I'm finally pursuing surgery. Right now I average around 3000 calories a day and often splurge well beyond that. When I've successfully lost weight in the past (last time about 5 years ago), I ate about 2500 calories a day. Reading these boards, I'm seeing so much talk of living on 1000 calories per day, at least for a few months. I. Just. Can't. Imagine. Those of you that have done it ... HOW??? -
What was your protein/day goal after surgery?
vikingbeast replied to Pete-TheTimeIsNow's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Two months post-op, my goals are 90-120 grams of protein, 80-120 grams of carbohydrates, and 45-55 grams of fat per day, for a total of 1085-1455 calories per day. I tend to miss on the fat but otherwise have no issues meeting those targets. I should mention that these are high because I am physically active multiple hours a day. -
week 3, had 1000 calories no problem, and I'm panicking
vikingbeast replied to CJ of Dallas's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Don’t freak out. You don’t feel the restriction right away even on soft foods. The important thing for me is I have to eat slowly; the new “full” signal apparently arrives in my brain via slow boat from Gibraltar. And honestly, even if you were eating only 2000 calories in the Before Times, a 1000 calorie a day deficit is 3.5 pounds a week loss. Chances are you were eating more than that. So a day of 1000 calories isn’t going to kill your weight loss. I am two months out and eating 1000-1400 a day and losing weight hand over fist—3-5 pounds a week. (The amount was set by my NUT, who calculated in my very active lifestyle.) I had a barium swallow last week and my stomach is fine, I still feel restriction. Courage, you will be fine. -
week 3, had 1000 calories no problem, and I'm panicking
Tony B - NJ replied to CJ of Dallas's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
When at your stage I was having only 1 protein shake in the morning with an egg that I could not finish. For lunch I had tuna or chopped chicken with a little Mayo and yogurt mixed in to keep wet. I barely got in 3 ounces. Dinner very similar. Force water all day between meals. I am 2 and 1/2 months out and I am still 800-900 calories and feel satisfied. -
November Surgery Buddies!!!
Debsgonnamakeit replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
i had gastric sleeve on Nov. 3 so i am 11 days out and all has gone as it should. Hospital stay was fine, I felt prepared for what was ahead at home with the 2 wk clear liquids. I am getting my fluids in but after a couple of days i could not stomach the sweetness of the protein shakes and did not tolerate the sodium in the protein drinks (yuk) so I have experimented with making shakes and having broth ect. Walks have been good, try to get a minimum of 3500 steps but I have what i call high energy and low energy days which, I imagine ,is expected on how few calories we are taking in. Very much looking forward to 2 wk appt and start on soft foods. SO wondering if anyone else who is a couple wks out has had this happen? I was starting my morning - nothing by mouth as yet. Took my first sip of tea (decaf) and was struck with a horrific chest pain that was moving up and down and to my back. I couldn't belch or slow breath through it. I didn't think I had gulped but must have swallowed air. I ended up gagging and spitting up bile . Then pain gone. Lasted 3 or 4 minutes but frightening. Any thoughts? Don't want to experience that again. I do need to slow down........ -
Complex trauma/ developmental trauma
Prestonandme replied to Gen71's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I had surgery two and a half years ago. I, too, had an extremely traumatic childhood, part of which involved being frequently left home alone without food. That obviously led to a host of eating/food issues and a considerable weight gain in adulthood. I've lived with a fear of starvation since childhood, so was also concerned about whether I could go through the various eating stages for the surgery. What really bolstered my confidence was when I was able to severely restrict my food intake a few weeks *before* the surgery, paring down my calories to about 800/day, which is what I would live on for the year after surgery. After the initial fear wore off, it actually became easy. I was really shocked at how easy it was. Plus, I was lucky to have weekly therapy to discuss my progress and concerns. The surgery resulted in my losing my lifelong fear of starvation. My brain now knows that there is always food available to eat, that I won't be threatened with hunger, etc. It has been really uplifting. I hope this happens for you, too, whatever your childhood issues were. -
How do you know when you're full?
Arabesque replied to Happymouse13's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Exactly as @The Greater Fool said. Give yourself time to heal. Once you are eating more solid food you’ll have a better sense of how things feel for you. Then you will work out how full feels for you & eventually what real hunger feels like for you too. Make sure you eat slowly as the message you are full takes time to get through & by then you likely have eaten too much. But the goal really isn’t to eat until you are full or your restriction kicks in but to eat until you’ve had enough or all you need. I still ask myself if I need the next bite or do I just want it. There is a big difference & it is likely very different to how you used to eat. Don’t be afraid to put your cutlery down & push your plate away. My plan was portion size, not calorie, focussed once in purées. Quarter of a cup to begin increasing to a third, then half, etc. This took months. About a cup at 6 months. I’m still very conscious of portion size too. PS - I didn’t have gas pain either & apparently my surgeon is know for his bariatric patients having little or no gas pain. But when he does gall removal, oh boy lots of discomfort then. -
week 3, had 1000 calories no problem, and I'm panicking
CJ of Dallas posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
HI, I'm new here. I had VSG on 10/28 and so I'm just over two weeks post op. I still have incisional pain, but I am having very little restriction. So far, nothing at all has made me sick, I have no food aversions whatsoever, and I have been hungry since day 1. I was allowed to transition from liquid diet to soft foods ONLY FOUR DAYS AGO. Today I was trying to follow the meal plans laid out in my resources which basically was 1 cup of soft food and two protein shakes. I did that, and I had a snack in the afternoon of about 3oz hummus and olives. I had ricotta bake, an egg, a protein shake, and that's about it. Maybe a sup and a half fo soft food all day, but I tracked my calories at 1000. I'm so upset with myself. My clinic told me that people are able to get between 500-800 during the soft food stage. What is wrong with me? How do I fix this? How do I keep from feeling like I did all this for nothing?
