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Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
Victoria_Faith posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am almost 5 weeks post-op, and am frustrated. I joined another site to help me track my foods, and yesterday I consumed less than 300 calories for a whole day and was nowhere near my protein goals. Last week I was able to make some egg whites and I had a 1,000 calorie day and felt like that was too much. My dietician told me to aim for 700 per day, with a minimum of 80g of protein. I feel like there's no consistency. Yall, I am really struggling. Do I need to go back to my liquid diet where I was getting all my protein? I've been at a stall for almost 2 weeks and don't see my dietician again until mid-April. -
I had 1/2 protein shake, we went to a sushi restaurant 4 oysters smashed, miso soup serving, blended up another soup when home,4 fish bites smashed with popsicles through out the day i feel like its a lot now. I'm always trying to meet my protein goal popsicles dont hurt ever & I like them i think im struggling with my eating habits I am out of town at a conference next week. Im concerned because they asked me my eating preference and I said vegan. I'm worried about getting my protein. And having nothing to eat. only thing that hurt today was the fish bites
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Aah the joy of constipation. Add a soluble, non swelling, fibre to your shakes to help & try to keep on top of it. You’re not eating much so not going everyday is to be expected. I used to take a stool softener if I got to the third (sometimes 4th) day with out any movement. Any longer & it became more difficult to break, more uncomfortable & then painful when you do go. I diluted my hideous shakes as well to dilute the flavour & graininess & got bonus fluids. Didn’t care if it took me two hours to drink it. Just sipped until I was done. It can be hard at first to meet your protein & fluid goals. As long as you’re making an effort & slowly getting closer. It does get easier. Avoid social media. I think it’s the worst when it comes to promoting unhealthy eating behaviours, food choices & excessive portion sizes. I developed an aversion to those types of images. I would start to feel ill looking at them. I also avoided live tv & would record any programs so I could fast forward the food ads. Thank goodness for ad free steaming services. What was odd was that I could watch baking & cooking shows. British Bake-off, British MasterChef (all three), Great British Menu & Top Chef were my favourites & they didn’t make me hungry. Don’t have any suggestions for coping with your house mates’ eating habits. I live alone. You can’t force them to eat as you do but maybe you could let them know it does make it difficult for you & you may have to leave the room they’re eating in. It is something you will always have to face. I rarely eat sweet foods but in time I reached a point where it didn’t bother me if people around me eat cake, deserts, etc. My niece had a box of cakes, brownies, cake pops, whoopi pies, cheese cakes, cup cakes, etc. samples for her 13th birthday last week. Everyone was filling their plates with a variety of things & I was fine - I ate a strawberry. As I said before - it does get easier over time. Just got to work out how you can manage it now - what works for you.
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My plan doesn't include chips. Most child's menus are not anything I would touch, nor are they designed with adult pallets in mind. I do, however, love Mexican food. How can you go wrong with protein and cheese? Flour tortillas are problematic, so I avoid those like the plague. When ordering out I'd rather just purchase a protein based menu item and go from there. I'd drop the bun or flour tortilla for two reasons. First, such bread items tend to cause problems for me. Second, they are generally not on my plan. When it comes to left-overs, I've learned not to bother, again for multiple reasons. First, chicken tends not to work in leftover form for me, though I can often manage the right meat in the right style. Second, my spouse generally eats her complete meal rarely with leftovers, so each meal is it's on it's own. Why would I do left-overs when fresh food is the order of the day? Most left-overs get discarded eventually. As with everyone and everything, if it works for you and your plan it's what matters. Good luck, Tek
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February 2019 weight loss buds
Recidivist replied to TheMarine79's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hello to everyone! It's a bit late, but happy 4-year anniversary to everyone. (Can you believe it has been that long?). I hope everyone is doing well in their journeys. I'm in a good place. I've gained about 20 pounds since my low weight (which frankly was too skinny, although I was thrilled at the time) and have managed to stay there for the last 2 1/2 years or so. I'm still following the plan pretty closely (high protein, low carb, low fat, almost no sugar) but allow myself indulgences now and then, such as a glass of wine or a scoop of ice cream. At this point, I feel like I'm eating "normally," though it's definitely different than pre-surgery. I'm happy that I've developed healthy eating habits and don't really have to think about it any longer. -
Yess the Chipotle kid's meal is also great! Q protein, 2 toppings/fillers & tortilla or taco shells. It's more than enough!
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Daily chronicles
SemperVeritas replied to Dfidelman's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
For me, miralax every day until I'm going regularly (I totally keep notes ha) and then I take it every 2-3 days. I was diluting my shakes with Fairlife skim milk, it has 13 g of protein in 8 oz! So once I was tolerating cold liquids better, I'd fill a big insulated cup with a protein drink, 8 oz of Fairlife milk, and 8 oz decaf coffee. That was 43 g protein and 30ish oz of fluid 😁 plus the ice adds a bit more. It took me about 2 or 3 hours to drink that, but it is a bit quicker now. Also love Lonolife powdered bone broth! Especially the chicken and beef. Not sure about the Thai curry flavor. Anyhow, I think they are a tasty and that's 10g protein, and 8-10 oz fluid! Good luck 😃 -
My nutritionist set my marcos at carbs and fat 30% and protein 40%. So for a 1200 calorie diet that is: Carbs 90g Protein 120g Fat 40g Setting your marcos on your food tracking app really helps keep you in line. Sent from my SM-N960U using BariatricPal mobile app
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protein question after visiting non-bariatric dietician
New To This23 replied to New To This23's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
She actually has me on a 1200-calorie diet, up until the last visit with the protein thing, I have had no restrictions, except to keep my diet at 1200 calories, she told me that she believes that no food should be off limits and that people need to be eating carbs (she was very adamant about that) I was actually scared to try her suggestion of Dave's bread, but I did and I have lost weight. I am also only the 2nd person she had counseled that is on the bariatric surgery track. She does not spend time looking anything up and gave me a whole book on diabetic healthy meals, even though I am not pre-diabetic or diabetic at all. -
So I am now experiencing what I think is constipation. Haven't gone since like day 3 . Feel like I need to or st least gassy but that's about it. I'm also having a hard time getting g protein in since they are having me dilute shakes. So I might go back to not diluting them so I can drink 2 gross shakes versus 8 a day cause it's only 11g when I dilute them half and half in a 8oz jar. I don't feel dehydrated or deprived in any way but still I wanna get that number in. Any tips?
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protein question after visiting non-bariatric dietician
Jeanniebug replied to New To This23's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
I would reach out to the surgeon's office and see if you can do video appointments with their dietician. My surgeon's office offered those. I had to go in for the first appointment, but all the rest were over video chat. You weigh 300 pounds, so yes, you should be eating enough protein for a 300 pound person. This will keep you from losing muscle. But, you'll need to adjust that, as you lose weight. So keep an eye on it. -
When I see pictures of what people eat. I eat a lot more then that. I probably have 10 sugar free popsicles a day, they never hurt my stomach and I like them. My servings are always small, very small, in fact most of the time I am eating with a baby spoon, to be cautious. If I take to big of bites, it hurts me. I am still doing soups, I tried refried beans yesterday, and protein shakes a million popsicles. To much food?
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ESG Surgery 03/14/23!
L. Knight replied to Notingreenbay's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
@kmacintoshhow did your first day go at work post your procedure and being to sip on your protein and take your meds at your desk -
I am in a major stall! I have lost 50 pounds so I'm not disappointed in the total loss, but just not going below the 151-152 mark is annoying. I have 20 to 25 more to loss to reach my goal. Even though my calorie count is good I have not been drinking protein shakes. I just got so tired of the sweetness. (Never thought I would say that!) LOL At my dr appt last week I was told to go back to the shakes for 1 or 2 meals a day. Thanks for letting me vent!
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protein question after visiting non-bariatric dietician
catwoman7 replied to New To This23's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
I know you're probably getting tired of this, BUT - first of all, I had a "non-bariatric" dietitian for my pre-op diet as well. But that surgery is so common now they know what they're dealing with and the requirements - or if not, it's easy enough for them to look it up. My dietitian had worked with several pre-op bariatric patients in the past, even though she was a generalist. also, if you're going to cut calories (which of course you should if you're wanting to lose weight), protein is the LAST macro you want to cut. Protein preserves muscle mass. If you don't get enough, you'll be eating through muscle. As long as your overall calories are lowered, you'll lose weight. I don't remember how much protein mine had my eating because it was nine years ago this summer that I started with her, but I know I was eating a lot more protein and a lot fewer carbs than I was before I started seeing her. also, I still eat 100-150 grams of protein a day because if I get less than 100, my prealbumin level tanks. Most bariatric patients eat somewhere in the 60-80 (or some clinics say 60-90) gram range, but some of us need to eat more than that for various reasons. -
HELP! Day One of Pre-Op Diet and Massive Stomach Bloating and Pain
BigSue replied to See.Allie.Run's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Oh yeah, I had terrible bloating during my pre-op diet. I couldn’t drink the number of protein shakes I was supposed to (3 shakes + small meal for the first week, and 4 shakes for the liquid-only second week). I used a lot of whey protein after surgery and didn’t have the same problems, though. -
protein question after visiting non-bariatric dietician
catwoman7 replied to New To This23's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
protein needs are higher for post-surgical bariatric patients than they are for "normal" people. Most of us eat higher protein/lower carb diets than do normal people. This is percentage-wise, not gram-wise. So yes, the dietitian will likely have you eating fewer calories, but a higher protein to carb ratio. So I don't find her recommended protein level that unusual. on my pre-op diet, the dietitian had me eating 2200 calories/day. As a 300+ lb person, I lost weight on that, because I'm sure I was eating 3000 or more cal/day to maintain my 300+ lb weight. On the flip side, many 170 lb people (well, women anyway) would gain weight if they averaged 2200 calories a day, unless they're very active. However, in addition to having me average 2200 cal/day, she also increased my protein to carb ratio, to more or less match what it would be after surgery. I lost weight like crazy (over 50 lbs before surgery) - and it was probably a healthy way to do, too. cutting your intake down to what a 170 lb person would normally eat might not be very sustainable at this point. That would likely be around 1700-cal (for women), give or take depending on your metabolism and how active you are. It was even hard for me to get used to 2200 (although I eventually did) - but I did lose a ton of weight on that. -
Alternative to milk of magnesia?
Sleeve_Me_Alone replied to JustJovi's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I'd be curious to know why they are saying Miralax is not an option as many, many WLS patients use it with success at the recommendation of their surgeons. I've never heard of there being an absorption issue. Personally, I've found using Just Better Fiber works very well for me. I add a few tablespoons into my coffee/water/whatever and sip it all day long. On the very rare occasion I need something "stronger" I use Miralax. -
HELP! Day One of Pre-Op Diet and Massive Stomach Bloating and Pain
SuziDavis replied to See.Allie.Run's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I personally hate premier shakes. try a different brand. Or even a vegan protein. -
finance for my gastric bypass
CaseyWalker replied to slamdunk's topic in Mini Gastric Bypass Surgery Forum
Hi there! Oh, I'm really sorry to hear about your health concerns. I suggest you to consider checking out resources like the NHS or financial advisors who can help you with financial planning. Besides, they may give some insights regarding other options for medical procedures. Do your research and find a suitable specialist. Furthermore, reliable websites, such as humaninvesting.com, may provide helpful information on responsible finance and investment strategies. I hope you'll find my advice helpful! -
Some protein may be hard at first, and some days one thing will work. But the next it won't. I was going to be referred to an endo for PCOS, but since I was going to go ahead with the surgery I ended up not going. Everyone is different and loses at different rates, try not to compare yourself to others. I know its hard but once you get past that you are able to see how else you are improving. It can be measurements, energy, regular cycles, better sleep etc. The weight will come off, just keep track of your protein amd water intake. Sent from my SM-G960U1 using BariatricPal mobile app
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protein question after visiting non-bariatric dietician
New To This23 replied to New To This23's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
99 grams is what you are supposed to have at 300 lbs in order to lose weight. If you are an athlete then it would be more. So in other words no, you would not eat protein in an amount that supports an unhealthy weight when trying to lose weight, which makes sense because you do not eat anything else at that level (fats, carbs, sugars, calories) to support an unhealthy weight when trying to lose. -
protein question after visiting non-bariatric dietician
New To This23 replied to New To This23's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
I will be seeing the dietician in the program when I finish my pre-surgery steps 12 dietician visits, 6 weigh-ins, and the goal weight that is set for me, I have to do it by a certain date, which is coming up pretty soon. Then I will start with the clinic that has a surgeon and its own dietician. As far as meal options I am happy with what I currently eat, I do not like to waste time and energy on making something new every meal. I was just concerned about why she would have me at a normal calorie level but then want to me eat a protein amount that is supportive of a heavier person. Especially since I have not complained about being hungry, because I haven't been hungry. She doesn't even want me to take any vitamins, because she says what I eat I get enough vitamins. -
protein question after visiting non-bariatric dietician
New To This23 replied to New To This23's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
I have completely changed my eating habit, I have already lost 20 lbs since starting with the dietician. I my question is why would I eat a protein amount based on an unhealthy weight? I have made a huge effort to eat the 150 grams today and I feel beyond full and kind of nauseated. I also have not been feeling hungry at all, so I do not know why she would suddenly bring the protein thing up with me. -
HELP! Day One of Pre-Op Diet and Massive Stomach Bloating and Pain
Arabesque replied to See.Allie.Run's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with the others about it likely being the shakes. Check the artificial sweetener they use in the shakes & the yoghurt. The sugar alcohols are renown for causing bloating, discomfort, diarrhoea, etc. Wouldn't hurt to try the plant protein shakes & dairy equivalents to ensure it’s not a lactose issue but if you didn’t have issues with dairy before you shouldn’t now. (After surgery some people do develop a lactose intolerance but it usually is temporary.)
