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What do you guys think of this video?
DaisyAndSunshine replied to DaisyAndSunshine's topic in Fitness & Exercise
Yeh I believe he exaggerated right there. Weight training doesn't need to be waited until you hit your normal BMI. But I believe he was making a point about post-Op diet and calorie deficit. A lot of us are on major calorie deficit until we hit our goal. So I wonder with such reduced calorie, is it enough to build muscles if there is sufficient protein intake of between 60 to 80g? 🤔 -
Wanted to see what your program says about raw vegetables, bread and alcohol
Guest replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Yeah, that sucks. For that individual. I mean, in the end we all have to make up our own minds. I'm just saying the long-term statistics on American bariatric patients aren't impressive, to say the least. Maybe "eat 500 calories a day and NEVER touch alcohol" as directed by Becky The Dietitian From San Diego wasn't a sustainable long-term plan for the average patient. -
Wanted to see what your program says about raw vegetables, bread and alcohol
Guest replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
A) 28 days after surgery. Bread wasn't a winner. Crackers were. Protein bread is great. Still bake little rolls with protein pizza crust mix. Got absolutely hammered on Day 28 with my best friend. Loved every second of it, hated the hangovers, had the calories saved up for it. B ) 28 days, go nuts. Just stay within your calories (1400 at the time, from Day 1 until the 6 month mark) and get your protein in. Otherwise the advice is obviously to use the time to learn better eating behaviors, and you get a ton of help and advice and motivation, but they believe in treating adults like adults. C) It was fine. Still is! -
Remember, the liver knows if you're in a calorie deficit because of shakes or because of a calorie deficit in general. ... just kidding. At least you're not with one of the completely insane American programs with months of Optifast because It wIlL maKe yOU lOsE mOAr WeIghT (ok, show me the science, oh you can't, great). Just stick it out. Remember a chicken breast with veggies are a better alternative if you feel like giving up on this insanity.
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What do you guys think of this video?
AnotherGuy replied to DaisyAndSunshine's topic in Fitness & Exercise
Advice is sometimes given with the best intentions but everyone is different. You should do the things which work for you. Only you know what is best for you. Listen, learn and experiment with your routines. Find something which is sustainable to achieve your long term goals. In my personal case, I believe the following things contribute to my success. I eat less calories because of surgery. I made a decision to make healthier food choices. I exercise regularly (cardio.) I perform weight training regularly. I feel great. I am losing weight. This is what is important to me. -
What do you guys think of this video?
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to DaisyAndSunshine's topic in Fitness & Exercise
Lol @ "you guys got to stop worrying about calories, calorie counting does not work" ~ Okay Dr Duc... Not calorie counting was a contributing factor to leading most of us to bariatric surgery. Some of what he says makes sense... increased activity can increase appetite, I agree with that. But not doing weight training until you're on the lower end of the normal BMI spectrum, I don't agree with that. It might not ever happen. Because as Catwoman7 said, statistically not all bariatric patients reach goal. But everyone can benefit from resistance training when they reach maintenance. There's sooooo many opinions out there on how to lose weight and how to build muscle, it can be confusing. You can talk to different doctors, different personal trainers and get a different opinion from each one. Workout while fasting, no, eat before working out, blah blah blah, etc... I think Dr Duc's Covid videos are laughable, and so are some of his bariatric videos. 🤷♀️ -
What do you guys think of this video?
Guest replied to DaisyAndSunshine's topic in Fitness & Exercise
Yup. Throw that food into MyFitnessPal. Keep calories not too low, not too high. Get your protein, and then get a lil' more. Walk 3-5x week. Work on your mind. That's it. The rest is icing on the cake. -
The BariatricPal Store carries a huge selection of Bariatric friendly Protein Snacks & Desserts at https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/bariatric-high-protein-low-calorie-snacks-and-desserts Here are some other bariatric friendly ideas as well: Chips and Crunchy Snacks: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-chips-and-crunchy-protein-snacks Chocolate Bars & Candies: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/bariatric-friendly-chocolate-bars-chocolate-candies Cakes, Cookies & Wafers: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/cookies-wafers Sugar-Free Candy: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/sugar-free-candy Cheese Snacks: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/cheese-snacks Meat & Jerky Snacks: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/meat-snacks Fish Snacks: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/fish-snacks Protein Bars: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-bars Pretzels: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/pretzels Nuts: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/nut-snacks
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March 2022 Surgery Buddies
UniqueHandle replied to LilaNicole20's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi everyone! I thought I would finally check in. I had my surgery last Tuesday, March 22. I am six days post op and feeling okay. I was able to de-gas by Thursday (ugh, gas pains are the worst) and I have been having daily bowel movements since then. I have a lot of medical issues and one of them is kidney disease and my kidneys are not at all happy about this surgery, which was a concern before surgery. I've actually gained weight because I cannot pee. All the water I drink has nowhere to go but my feet, ankles and legs. I am eating about 250 calories a day because my new stomach (Phoebe) hates everything (everything tastes like metal - probably because of my meds). Oh, and I can't seem to keep my heart rate above 50. That's all the bad stuff. The good news is that I haven't had any pain meds since the day of my surgery. My nausea isn't as bad as expected and after over doing it on Friday and taking it easy over the weekend, my incision pain is not too bad. Every day I set a goal for myself and so far, I am hitting my little goals. 🎖️ -
Eating carbs (pasta, rice, or bread )
Queen ApisM replied to New_me_2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
My program has never restricted carbs post surgery, in fact they encourage a balanced diet and higher calories compared to some of the programs out there. I eat carbs on a regular basis, but that is coupled with watching overall calories and prioritizing protein. While I eat carbs, it is also nowhere near what I used to eat. I don't eat a lot of bread. The exception is a light English muffin as part of my breakfast sandwich - for some reason those English muffins don't bloat me the same way as other bread. Rice might be a few spoonfuls, the same with pasta. My tummy really cannot handle carbs in large amounts so pasta is no longer the go to food it used to be. -
Eating carbs (pasta, rice, or bread )
ms.sss replied to New_me_2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I never really removed ALL carbs from my diet (i think that would be really difficult), but I did go ultra-low carb during weight loss phase, < 25g NET a day. I didn’t really use any substitutes during weight loss phase, but i did try making cauliflower crusts…while good, i deemed them too much effort and just went without. After goal (approx 7 months) I did start using more substitutes (shiratake noodles, chicken crusts, zero carb bagels). The noodles were good, but super filling, the chicken crusts are effing delicious and i have yet to enjoy any type of zero carb bread (its NOT bread!). It took me a few months to lose my fear of carbohydrates, but by around 1 year (or was it 2?) post op, i started eating desserts and bread and pasta again. Granted i only eat really yummy bread or pasta (i.e., homemade by Mr.) but still. Nowadays i dont put limits on my carbs anymore (im 3.5+ years out) and just keep an eye on total calories. So far so good. -
a 5-6 lb gain in two weeks is almost too much to be due to a decrease in exercise or increase in food - so I suspect at last some of that is either water or full intestines. If so, at least a couple of lbs of that should drop off within a couple of days. As for the rest - if you're no longer logging your food intake, I'd start with that to see what and how much you're taking in. I find that if I take in more than 1700 calories for more than a day or two, my weight starts heading up (and that number is going to be different for everyone depending on age, gender, activity level, etc...). I'm OK with calorie counting, but some people hate doing that. If you're one who doesn't like it, then I'd go back to eating like you were a few months after surgery (as in NOT all the way back to protein shakes and an obscenely low number of calories - but the whole spiel of eating protein first, then nonstarchy vegetables. And then, if you're still hungry, maybe a small serving of fruit or whole-grain carb). losing weight can be a huge struggle once you're a few years out, but people do it...
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3 years out and still afraid of gaining the weight back
Guest replied to RachaelLou's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
You're obviously a highly experienced (and by everything I've seen wonderful and insightful) bariatric patient. Yet I'm someone who fought (and won against) a serious eating disorder. I heard many, many people's stories in group therapy along the way. I work with local health authorities on early intervention in childhood medical care when it comes to preventing EDs, not because I don't already have a great job in a different field, but because we're approaching BED specifically from a harmful place. Every single story from BED suffers starts with a diet. From a normal or normal-adjacent weight. And it leads to spiraling diet-overeating-diet---> (the body will get its calories eventually, especially in someone whose coping pattern already involved getting morbidly obese). So I worry giving diet advice to someone at a completely normal bodyweight in counter-productive. Of course you're right in what you say. Of course. I just want to say to people reading here; it will never be good enough if you don't learn to live with yourself. 10 or 20 lbs will make no difference. But trying to take them off might get you right back to where you started. -
Eating carbs (pasta, rice, or bread )
summerseeker replied to New_me_2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am unable to eat bread, rice, pasta and potatoes yet. I get too full on the protein. I live in the UK and high protein alternatives are not available unless we pay heavily for them on Amazon. My dietician allows snack size packets of bread sticks [ I manage half a pack] They come in 20gm packs at 81 cals. Because they are crunchy they dissolve and dont sit heavy. They are good for a snack with some soft cheese. Van der Meulen Melba toast comes in tiny packets of 6 slices. I eat 3 and these are 13 calories each, great with egg or tuna salad. At the moment if I want this crunch in my life I have to leave out the cucumber and tomato that I love too ...... I love eating so little -
I eat so little at the moment that vegetables dont make any part of my diet so when I can, I love a baby cucumber and a couple of tiny baby tomatoes. 10 calories of deliciousness. If I want to splurge, Del monte make some yummy smoothie ice lollies at 77 calories each.
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In many ways, changes like this are a great opportunity to reach out for help - friends, family, or better yet; a professional. Maybe it's time to look at the framework of your life and see how you can make it strong(er)? At the end of the day, most of us know how to count calories. Most of us react too late to mental needs.
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What was your "this is it" moment
Smanky replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I tried (REALLY tried) to lose my weight the analogue way through calorie counting and running. I was doing really well. I lost 25kg, and was fitter than I'd been in decades, my labs were brilliant, my GP was incredibly happy with my progress. Then the pandemic hit and I put some weight back on, and while for a while I was stable and managed to keep it in check, I still fell off the wagon. I gained all the weight back plus extra - that tired old familiar routine. I was devastated, and knew I was self-sabotaging, but couldn't get back into the calorie counting and fitness. That was my "I just cannot do this on my own" moment. I would always do well, get to a certain point, then just... let go and fall back into failure. I knew weight loss surgery was my final option, and after my best effort failed, I took out Private Health Cover, and set my WLS in motion. I 100% wish I'd done this ten years ago. Good luck with your journey! -
Eating carbs (pasta, rice, or bread )
BigSue replied to New_me_2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm 18 months out and I still rarely eat refined carbs. I mainly eat vegetables, lean protein (poultry, fish, pork, egg whites), and legumes. I don't eat a lot of processed low-carb substitute foods because they tend to be overpriced and often high in fat and calories, but I do have a few go-to substitutions: Cauliflower rice - I eat this several times per week and don't miss real rice at all. I buy the frozen stuff, so it's even faster and easier to prepare than real rice. Mr. Tortilla 1-net-carb tortillas (these are small and great for tacos). La Banderita carb counter tortillas (larger and great for wraps, and I cannot tell the difference from real flour tortillas). Mashed cauliflower - good substitute for mashed potatoes (with a lot of garlic and herbs, and low fat gravy). -
Weight regain advise please
LilaNicole20 replied to onmyway11's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
It’s hard to adjust your calories based on your activity. If you’ve been working out as you say, then you just need to eat slightly less than you would have typically for the days that you’re on bed rest. Push Water. Oh, and maybe cut out the processed carbs. Go for complex carbs like sweet potatoes. And if you have to have processed, look for options with a high(er) fiber content. -
Hello fellow DSers I have recently gained a few lbs and I’m freaking out. About 10 since fall with about 5-6 in the past 2 weeks (due to a bed rest situation/no exercise situation from a non related medical procedure I think). I am normally very active. I also do intermittent fasting. I work out about 2 hours a day 7 days a week with few exceptions. But to be honest I’m a terrible eater. I’m a sugar and carb addict and live my life a slave to my upset stomach (ds related) Again to be honest that has worked for me 2 years out I’ve lost 100% of my excess weight but it’s not working anymore. I went from 283 to 138 and am now about 148. How have you all handled these weight gains if you have had them? I’m afraid of the slippery slope. Should I go back to basics? Proteins and veggies? This is such a weird statement but I feel like the sugar is what has helped me get here bc I don’t keep the calories in (ya know) and I’m afraid to give it up. Any advise appreciated. TIA
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Food Before and After Photos
ms.sss replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Sometimes my food just looks unappetizing lol. This is leftover salad from a couple days ago, plus a nugget of leftover bbq pork, plus 1/2 a leftover chicken thigh, plus a 1/4 cup of leftover butter chicken. Looks gross, but tastes YUM. I also just drank an espresso martini (yes, its not yet noon, dont judge me!) 250 calories (including the martini, not shown) Ate/drank it all. -
3 years out and still afraid of gaining the weight back
catwoman7 replied to RachaelLou's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
a 10-20 lb rebound after you hit your lowest weight is VERY common. I think it's just your body settling in where it feels comfortable - your new "set point". Of course, you can always lose it again if you decrease your calorie intake, but if this is your body's new "set point", it'll be a challenge to get back down to where you want to be and stay there. Been through this myself. I gained 20 lbs after hitting bottom. The first 10 pounds I was OK with because I'd gotten a bit too gaunt-looking, but I'd love to get rid of the last 10 lbs. Unfortunately, I've been struggling this for the last three or four years. I'm almost to the point of throwing in the towel. My current weight is fine, according to my surgeon and PCP, but I don't know - I looked pretty darn good 10 lbs ago!! -
Depressed and Sad ..8 months post op stalled and not moving ahead.
BigSue replied to TheBusierBee's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
First of all, don't lose sight of the fact that you have done great so far. You lost 95 pounds! That's fantastic. Since you said that you've stalled and are not losing, I'm assuming that means you haven't started regaining any of the weight, right? If that's the case, then you're in maintenance, so if you want to start losing again, you just have to lower your food intake and/or increase your exercise. Diet has a much bigger effect on weight loss than exercise, but exercise has a lot of other benefits, so it's a good idea to get back into exercise as well, even if it's just a little. Leslie Sansone's Walk at Home videos on YouTube are great, and you can start with short ones (there are several that are 15 minutes or less) if you don't want to or don't have time to do a longer walk or workout. Are you tracking everything you eat? If not, I think that's a great first step to kick-starting a change. Apps like MyFitnessPal or Baritastic make it easy, and tracking can help you identify the easiest changes to make. What are the healthiest foods that you already like to eat? Start eating those things more often, and cut out (or reduce) the stuff that's not worth the calories. If you like to cook, go on Pinterest to find some new recipes that are both tasty and healthy. Finally, I recommend not fixating on a specific number on the scale. Everyone is different, and you may not be able to get to 150, but that doesn't mean you failed. I bet you have already had some great non-scale victories with a 95-pound weight loss. Has your health improved? Are you more able to keep up with your kids? Can you wear clothes from non-plus size stores? Are you less self-conscious in social/professional situations? These things are all more meaningful than a number on the scale. -
You know, im thinking back now to when i first was nearing goal and I remember i too got a bit concerned about having to increase calories to stop the weight loss (i tried to find my original post but no luck). I did not think it would be possible. Then i also remember a few members further out than me telling me “don’t worry, it’ll happen”. And yep, they were right. So i get the bit of panic. i/we are/were in a diet groove of sorts and changing that up does of course bring about a bit of uncertainty and with that maybe some panic/anxiety. its easy for me to say now, looking back, to just trust yourself that you can navigate through the inevitable changes, but im saying so in hindsight, with the benefit of actually having gone though it already. In any case, good luck, vent away, voice your fears, broadcast your successes, and try if you can to know you aren’t alone in feeling this way. ❤️
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Depressed and Sad ..8 months post op stalled and not moving ahead.
GradyCat replied to TheBusierBee's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
First focus on the great success that you've had. You've done well. Next, think about how this is going to be for YOU (while I realize it effects your kids too and you said you want to do this for your kids, do it for YOU!). Now, get back to the basics like right when you had the surgery, counting calories, protein, and macros, drinking your water, not drinking while eating, etc. It'll jump-start you back to losing again.
