Marine mom

I agree with all of your post, but especially the bolded statement. OP, i have to say that i am glad i never experienced the lb vs gbs arguing.:thumbup:

lol, whatever... no one should be concerned about surgery, or friends having surgery. You all live in a weird world. I watch out for my friends and my family, and am thrilled they are willing to do the same for me. Choosing to be offended over a friend's concern is sad.

lol, you are where I was. You are right, the weight loss is what could be done without the band. that said, chances are you haven't been able to do it. KWIM? I know that i can lose weight. i've done it before. i see this as a tool to increase my odds of keeping it off by enforced portion control. Good luck in your decision. it is a biggie.

too funny. I would pass along my leftovers to my mom! i'm sorry you are having to deal with confounding issues along with this. that has to be difficult.

I stand by my statement. It is ignorant to choose surgery if there is a better option. Even a surgeon wouldn't argue that point. Just because you were fine after a surgery doesn't make all surgery safe or wise.:thumbup: I should say ETHICAL surgeons. Some are just in it for the buck. Blaming the victim works really well, until you start having problems!

i see your point. I think that it benefits surgeons, even my darling surgeon, to blame failure on the victim, rather than the tool. so i always take that bit of info with a bit of salt. I still was banded, don't get me wrong. It was a leap of faith, though. There are concerns, which was my point in posting that info on this thread. Expressing them, or being worried about the people looking at surgery (always an issue) is nothing to be offended by, imo. YMMV, of course. Good luck!

no. the 45% encompasses the 25%. the 25% was in my lapband literature. I started a thread about it after I read it. another poster showed the higher, 10 year rate.

To start with, 25% are removed in the first 2 years. And 45% within 10 years. That doesn't include problems inherent with surgery in general. Infections, reactions to anasthesia, etc. All surgeries are dangerous. When I have a friend that is considering surgery of any sort, I always suggest a second opinion. Whether my mom's cancer surgery, or a friend's hysterectomy. Friends watch out for one another, in my world. Weight loss failure is high, just like any other weight loss tool. Not AS high, but high. Few people lose what they hope to lose. I would have given anything NOT to have needed this surgery. Anyone with common sense would choose NOT to have surgery. I had friends and family express concern. Good for them!!! I am eternally grateful that i have people that care for me. That isn't an attack. And I sure as heck wouldn't attack them for it. Especially somewhere where they couldn't even defend themselves and their children. People need to stop looking for something to be offended about, imo. there are truly offensive people and situations in this world. No need to make them up.

I'll pms with you. Ugh.

Interesting. OTOH, I was told not to be judgmental re. people faking their weight.

Thanks.You don't pick on someones kids, in my book. And you have to remember that most of the people in our lives care about us. And are no more perfect than I/we are

Had a ball! For a couple of days I was lugging around an extra dozen lbs., though! Then, it was gone, and I had taken a vacation and actually lost a couple of pounds. A record in my life!

OH no! So sorry you had to go through that!

Are you nuts? THEY ONLY WANTED TO HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARe your friendships so shallow that a misunderstanding is worth getting rid of them????????????? YOU have never said or done anything that was unintentionally rude or upsetting? YOu are that perfect of a person?

mel mel, this was how I went about the process. give yourself time and information, and then make the choice best for you. this isn't the answer for everyone, but it is the best thing for a lot of folk.

And it works the other way too. A family member or friend expresses concern and it is taken as an attack. The OP's friends only wanted to help, and keep someone from a life risking surgery. Damn them. The OP then said HORRID things about one of them and their children!!!! Some friend. This surgery has a HUGE failure rate. People should be concerned. When they express it, it is taken as an attack by people looking to be offended.

numbed with tiny needle, no sting. Filled with a needle that could be used on cattle.

silly people.

mimi, i hope things work out for you.

sucks, doesn't it? we are in the same place. i really want chocolate. or salt. or something new exciting and wonderful!

cup of coffee every day. my doc's only concern was compensating for the potential diuretic affect.

that was what i figured. and good job having breakfast. all studies say it is the best thing to do. Now, mom advice coming...be easy on yourself. do something kind for yourself, and relax. you are working the program, as they say. hope you don't mind the mom msg.

I gained 8 lbs. last night. I am also premenstrual. I also will gain if I have salt, if I am stressed, etc. Also, if you have had any Fiber there can be solids building up, kwim? Unless you are pigging out (and then journal) realize that bodies are not static.

in this case it isn't about you. have you been there for her, grieved with her?

man, between the snow, being trapped, and a healthy case of pms, I am just crabbing my way through my day!