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If I believe that I might as well believe that my dog will grow purple wings and fly! If it wasn't for people like Dr. King, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, black people would not have Civil Rights. I am so glad they have NEVER backed down to this country and allowed the continuous unfair treatment to people of color! Jesse was right here in MEMPHIS,TN when Dr. King was murdered, he marched and fought for justice! Other communities may get tired of seeing them, but the African American communities will not! We need them and others alike to CONTINUE to stand for EQUALITY for ALL!!

I cannot beleive you are putting Al Sharpton in the same category as a great man Like Dr. King. I'm curious, and you probably won't answer this like you didn't anwer the sarcasm criteria post, but what are your opinions on Al Sharpton's involvement in the Tawana Brawley case? Also when I said I respected your differing opinion even though you did not respect mine and you wrote that you respected that I conceded. Is that because we have different opinions? Not being rude, it is your right to think your opinions are the only ones that matter and are correct.

I'm glad you conceded! Man!

Also for the record Sheila. I respect your differing opinion too. I wish you could respect mine.

Yeah, I would have been offended if my mom frequently called me names that were typically used to describe animals...I sure don't believe it's appropriate for parents to call their kids mutts or nappy headed hos...

Common sense has to do w/everything. Look up common sense. I did it can pretty much apply to everything. Therefore the lack there of is a bad bad thing.

I hate to say it. I'm going to have to concede to you. As much as I love debating with people it is impossible to do with you because you are not honest in your accusations. Also, common sense does not apply to everything. But again, you win. I will go down the line and possibly reply to anything ihaven't read yet but after that I am done commenting with you. I respect your differing opinion even though you don't respect mine. I do not respect your dishonesty in your accusations though. For the record. My mother was a great person who raised her twins to the best of her abilities by herself with no family (she was raised in foster homes because her parents were killed when she was a very small child). She worked hard to put clothes on our back and food on our table and never complained. Even when my brother and I were 14 and my brother was diagnosed with non-hotchkins lymphoma and had to travel back and forth to a town 4 hours away every two weeks for 9 months to have chemotheraphy treatments and then during that same time I was in a horrible four wheeler accident where both my arms and one leg was broken and I was in a different hospital for weeks on end which put her in financial ruin which she never caught up on even though she always made her payments. she loved to tease and would have never hurt a fly. She was however a little obsessed with 70's music and board games. The last thing my mother ever did was hurt our feelings especially on purpose. I know I will never come close to being the great person she was. Even though unlike her, I will probably live past the age of 47.

I love the show too....Isiah Washington should have never called T.R. Knight a faggot though, b/c it was wrong!! Since you watch the show you know he's black right, so that throws you other statement out of the window.

What does Isiah Washingtong being black have to do with anything I said. What statements does it throw out the window?

No one is trying to take anything away from you. People need to learn there are repercussions for their actions. The government didn't come in and fire Imus, his boss did!!

Yet again, you are not completely reading my posts. Go back and look and you will see that I am not arguing he shouldn't be fired. I'm arguing aginst the double standard and for the right for free speech. You are making my points for me.

Oh I get it, you are secretly on my side but playing devil's advocate. Dude, you are doing a great job. I was beleiving you for a second.

It should be called When you can't think of anything else to say cry 1st amendment. :phanvan That's so 6th grade. IMO, it diminishes why we have the 1st amendment. Most people don't even understand half the amendments..Shoot most people couldn't list the amendments, but always cry 1-10.

P.S.-Don't scream fire in a crowded building...And you know you can be sued for slander.

Okay. so you are saying I cannot think of anything else to say so I am "crying first amendment"? What diminishes why we have the first amendment? when people want to enforce it? Have you been watching the news? Do you think I am the only one talking about the first amendment? the only one talking about civil rights and liberties? You are too funny. Talk about ignorant.

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Oh, come on....Explain this what was the point of the example you gave?!!? Honestly, I really don't get the point of the story other than to make you look even worse. Eventhough you said you didn't except him to accept your apology, it really sounded like you did. Later in the story you made it clear you didn't even understand why he was still mad since you had apologized. Didn't you also also call him a crybaby:phanvan

The point of the story was to be honest pertaining to the topic at hand. Why are you so upset by my honesty and opinion? I'm not upset by your opinions. The only thing I'm upset about is that you are accusing me of saying stuff that I didn't. What is it you have against honesty. Yours and mine?

Yes I did call him a crybaby. Am I not allowed to have that opinion?

What did he say? If it was something to the affect of nappy headed hos he should be fired.

If you read my comment you would have read what he said. Steve harvey is making fun of white southern people and making racially sensitive, derogatory and stereotypical comments about them. Isn't that what Imus is being accuse of when he said nappy headed ho's? Isn't Imus being accused of being racially insensitive, stereotypical, and derogatory? Can you tell me what the difference is between these two people and why one is worse than the other?

You have only listed negative things about hip hop music. I don't even listen to much hip hop, but I know it's not all about bitches, hos and killing people...

Half the things you listed in your statement would apply to the Sopranos as well...Does that make Imus' statement even more funny to you?:phanvan

okay, you are not being honest here. I absolutely did NOT post only negative things about hip hop. I said in my opinion there were just as much self struggle hip hop as negative hip hop. Show me where I ONLY posted negative things about hip hop. You have yet to show me anything you have accused me of so far.

She didn't say anything about his race. Where'd you get that from?:phanvan

I didn't say she said anything about his race. I said she was spewing hate speech. She said he was old ugy creep. I said that was hate speech every bit as much as Imus nappy headed ho's comment. It just so happens he is white. Are you actually reading what I write? just curious.

That's probably part of your problem...Have you ever thought about that? You are in some serious denial...So, you say your 1/2 Mexican:phanvan I am really trying not to assume stuff. I am really just going off with you are typing here.

Why do you get to decide what's funny? I am just using common sense. My mom always said common sense is just as importants as "book smarts." This has nothing to do w/big words. I have a great sense of humor when somethings funny:)

Yes I am half mexican. My mother was full mexican and my father was full Irish, I think that makes me half mexican. It also makes me half Irish. Again, I could be wrong. What am I in denial about? Are you saying it was inappropriate for my mom to call us that? Are you saying I should have been offended by my mom? I would disagree with you saying I'm in denial. In fact, I think I'm being very honest and open even when it does not shed me in the best light.

Again, sense of humor is a matter of opinion. I don't think you have a good sense of humor. That doesn't mean I'm correct. I'm sure you would disagree. And you obviously don't think I have a good sense of humor. Doesn't mean you are correct. You don't get to decide what I think is funny. I don't get to decide what you should think is funny. Do you think political humor is funny? I don't. But I'm sure there are a lot of people reading this who do. What does common sense have to do with humor? How do they even go together? Common sense IS just as important as book smarts but I'm still not understanding the link between common sense and humor.

I hope I get an answer soon on how to become an acceptable candidate for sarcasm. Maybe I'll google it.

Always, glad I could be of assistance! I'm sure Imus will be the president!

No matter who the president of the First Amendment fan club is, whether it be you, me, or Imus. I think whoever it was should be very proud.

:phanvan Since when...Didn't Isiah Washington just get out of therapy.:speechles

HYSTERICAL!!! I love that show.

Comparing him to Howard Stern says what about him? Stern is a prejudice, sexist, disgusting human being.

And it's R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S...Couldn't resist after the 10th time!!

I agree that Stern is a prejudice, sexist, disgusting human being. You are preaching to the choir about this issue. I couldn't agree with you more. But isn't Howard Stern allowed to have civil rights and liberties? Aren't we all allowed to have that? I hope so, and you should hope so to, because if they take that away from us, then we will not be able to have message boards like this where you and I can both post our opinions even though they disagree. I don't want that taken away from me. I'm sure you don't either.

Did I say it wasn't okay to be sarcastic? I see you have taken Imus' firing to HEART, you should start a fan club!:clap2:

Actually you did say it wasn't ok to be sarcastic. Well you said it depends on who is saying it. So I am curious which people it is acceptable from and which people it isn't. Also, I should start a fan club for who? I'm not an Imus fan, in fact I think his show is pretty boring. But I do think you have an excellent suggestion as far as starting a fan club for what I am a fan of and the reason I started this thread. Great idea to start a fan club for the First Amendment. Good thinkin' girl!

Depends on who it's coming from:) .

May I ask you what it is about me that makes it not okay to be sarcastic? And would you also let me know what the criteria is for sarcasm being ok to say. I'm just curious what points I don't qualify for.

Maybe you could have tried to educate yourself a little better. By you telling this story it is clear that you still haven't learned anything. Why should he except your apology when it's clear you still to today don't even realize how ignorant your comment was. Perhaps that's why he didn't accept your apology.

Have you ever been to the tolerance museum in LA? The Holocaust museum in D.C? The internet is a great source of knowledge (some good and bad). Libraries are great. Talk to people, be willing to listen.

Can you show me where I said He should accept my apology? Didn't I say that if he never forgave me for the rest of his life I would understand? I don't think some of you are quoting me accurately. If I wrote somewhere that he SHOULD accept my apology I certainly didn't mean to because I don't feel that way. But I don't think I did.

Now that is IGNORANT!

I would agree with you that was ignorant if I wasn't being sarcastic. And I don't mean I literally wish I was black. I'm trying to make a point. I'm proud of who I am as I think we should all be. Is being sarcastic ignorant?

Well, it's about time someone gave him the BOOT! As a matter of fact it took too long! For you to say black people can say what they want is ridiculous! Howard Stern isn't black and he say and DO everythng on his show! He's another one that should get the BOOT! I am so tired of people trying to take up for ignorance and that includes in the hip/hop, rap, country, alternative, movies, sports and all others that I didn't name! Ignorance is ignorance!!! I am glad he is GONE and that should be a warning for others!! Thanks CBS and MSNBC! As for you wishing you was black...oh you couldn't handle it!

Should Steve Harvey get the boot for his ignorance that I'm listening to right now? I don't think he should.

Since you love hip hop you should know it's not all about "gangster/kill people/slap your ho/i'm a pimp, etc."

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Can you point out where I said "It's all about"?

namely he is an ugly old creep. I am sorry but these kind of vicious, nasty comments are not to be tolerated. There is free speech and there is hate speech.

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Wow, does this seem like hate speech to anyone? It does me. Oh I know, if you are insulting a white person based on their looks it is ok. My bad. I keep forgetting that. silly me:rolleyes:

You can't even admit now your comment was ignorant..You went past bad humor. Who wants to be called a half-breed? Are you sure he was a man or a dog? I didn't even people to call my beloved dog, Fluffy, a mutt (RIP). What's funny about calling someone a half-breed? That's insulting. I would have been embarrassed to tell this story. There wasn't nothing funny about that at all...

Really? Actually I did say I shouldn't have said it. My mom used to call me and my twin her little mexi-mutts when we were little. I'm not an oversensitive crybaby about it though. And I don't think my mom was being mean to us. I also think my mom had a wonderful sense of humor. I'm sure not everyone thought that. It is a matter of opinion. Why do you get to decide what is funny? And actually it was insulting to him. Why do you get to decide what is insulting. When I'm called a half-breed I am not insulted whether it is meant mean or as a joke. YOU would have been embarassed to tell this story, I'm not embarassed by my honesty. But I guess that makes you and I different. I learned a valuable lesson in that what I think is funny doesn't mean everyone else will think it is funny. And I actually think I did pretty much say the comment was ignorant....I may have not said it in YOUR words but I was admitting something I thought I had done wrong. Kind of a lesson learned relating to the topic of this thread. Like I said earlier though..Why do YOU get to decide what is funny? I'm just curious how you got that power. I would like it.

Someone said in an earlier post "what if he would have done this in a doctor's office?" That is rediculous. HE DIDN'T DO IT IN A DOCTOR'S OFFICE. He did it on his radio/tv show where he has been expressing his opinions for 35 years. Like people said earlier, they listened to Howard Stern and decided they didn't like his stuff so they turned him off. That is their freedom. You have every right not to support him if he says something you don't like.

MSNBC and CBS would not have fired him if there wasn't the pressure from the groups. GUARANTEED. I am listening to clips on Directv right now of the Steve Harvey radio show. As I type this I am listening to his bit that is making fun of white, southern, rednecks. He is being very stereotypical. A. It's pretty damned funny if you ask me. I'm cracking up.

B. Where is the public outcry from Al Sharpton on Steve Harvey's politically incorrect comments? Oh that's right, he's black so he can say whatever he wants. Geez, wish I was black so I could say whatever I wanted to.

Al Sharpton didn't make Imus say that crap. Why can't they both be wrong?

You are absolutely right about Al Sharpton not making Imus say what he said. But Al Sharpton will jump on anything he can to get his stupid face on television. And actually Al Sharpton being a race-bating media whore isn't really the issue here. Al Sharpton does not get to decide what people say. Just like we cannot decide what dip-sh-- Sharpton says. But if you had to go through the 35 years worth of Imus shows and the thousands of press conferences that Sharpton has done, who would you say is closer to inciting a race war? I for one think it is Sharpton.