*susan*

Agreed. Her marriage vows are completely irrelevant here. In addition, your spiritual and/or religious beliefs may not be the same as hers. This is not about her and her marriage. This is about a man using his job to prey upon woman when they are at their most vulnerable.

And here is another thought, TRAVELMEGO, if you are "just asking questions" because you haven't been yet, then instead of looking for new ways to distract from the real issues or attack me, how about asking some valid, intelligent questions. Two of the victims have posted here, they might respond if you don't act like you are bullying them. Maybe ask them questions about what situations you should avoid, what would they do different? Questions that will actually help you.

Once again, I did not say your name. Please quit making this about you. It is about the victims. If I am directly referring to you, I will quote you or say your name.

The Omar fan club has been hard at it. You are all so deeply buried in the charm and charisma of this man, it is almost scary. What about the woman he has made advances on who did resist him? Again. Is it appropriate to tell a patient about your genitals? The bottom line is this man is at the top of the food chain preying on innocent victims. He has used his charm to gather the ones he hasn't preyed upon to come to his rescue, stand behind him and bully his victims who dare to speak out and scare the rest from ever doing so. I have had conversations with this man. He has lied to me and those lies have been confirmed by his groupies. To the ladies who have spoken out despite the bullying that is taking place here, thank you for your bravery. There are other, but because of the all out vicious attacks that have occurred here, they are afraid to speak out. And who can blame them? I am ashamed and saddened at the same time by this group of fan girls. They seem to think they know everything about everyone. And of course, what they know must be fact because their coordinate god Omar who drive them around town and took care of them said so. I only hope nothing like this ever happens to you. Then again, maybe I hope it does then you can see how it feels to be victimized and realize what horrible, uncaring, nasty bullies you really are. Oh, and here is one other fascinating tidbit of fact for you. Dr. Illan is not the only doctor Omar has coordinated for. He will, of course, fabricate a wonderful fairytale telling you otherwise, but he was let go due to inappropriate advances on female patients.

Thank you for joining just to continue the bullying of victims.

The purpose is there is still valuable information here . Alex is keeping it open because he has also had direct communication with those involved. It would do them a disservice to close it and not have their stories heard. I have had numerous people contact me via PM here and on Facebook thanking me for posting this. I knew from the start it was going to turn into a battleground, but that did not stop me because woman are being wronged and I believe in standing up for others and what is right.

I am still holding out for mine too!

Nobody will believe you! LOL

He is going to need to get a second and third job!

But, if she is you, and she is me, then you must be me too!

Yep, he figures he only needs to get a ring for one of my personalities, not all of them. Sorry.

I know if I had, I would be speaking out about it as well. But, this is the only one I have heard of, and when six separate woman come to me, I cannot just turn a blind eye and pretend nothing is wrong.

Yes, and we have explained and discredited your attempt to discredit me numerous times regarding that and what happened. Yes, I find the fact that you keep bringing that up as beyond ridiculous too. I did not specifically accuse you of anything, bless your heart. I said that if you expect an apology, I would like to know where my apologies are for everyone trying to discredit me because posted about a serious issue that is occurring. Instead of addressing that issue, it is apparently more important to try and discredit me. That is typical of people who want to try and take attention off of what the real issue is.

I am sorry this is upsetting you. You can easily unsubscribe. However, something inappropriate is happening, and people have a right to know.

Excellent observation!

If we are going to go there, where are the apologies owed to me? Claiming I have discredited multiple doctors, that I have created multiple fake ID's, that Alex, Bill and Lipsticklady are all fake names I have created? Claiming I was fired as a coordinator, when I actually resigned? Where are my apologies?

I don't disagree, he is a good surgeon, I've said that from the start. But, Omar is his employee, and if misconduct is occurring, it is his responsibility to put an end to it.

Yes, that is my concern as well.

Oh, my apologies, you are right, he was wrong, but he is a man so that excuses it. Seriously, are you reading what you just posted? There is no excuse, man, woman or otherwise. Have you ever gone to your doctor's office and had one of the staff make explicit comments to you about his genitals? Would that be excused because, well, he is a man? Because, that is what one of these woman had happen to her. And, he continued even after she specifically told him it made her uncomfortable and she also did not appreciate the advances he was making towards her. She did not tell Dr. Illan because she was alone in a foreign county by herself. She was afraid her care would be compromised if she spoke out, so she kept it to herself. They are victims, they do not have to take the blame. Like I said before, that is like saying a rape victim is partially to blame because of the way she was dressed. They were vulnerable, obese, low self-esteem, alone and far away from home. They were going through major surgery and most likely in a very emotional state. Omar feeds on that and takes advantage of it. He is wrong and anyone who defends him should be ashamed of themselves.

Exactly!!

Okay, I have been reasonable, but I have officially lost my patience with you and the other fangirls. I do not have to continue to explain myself or justify myself to you. I have explained that my fiancé and I use the same iPad. He could not remember his old login so he created a new one to post his thoughts. I came back and posted, not realizing I was no longer signed in. Quit making a big deal of that, you are grasping at straws and it is growing old and tiresome very quickly. Next, two of the people did come forward and post in this thread. And, what happened, they were ridiculed and bullied by you and the fangirls. They are evidence! As one of your friends said, do I need to take out my paper and crayons and draw a picture for you? Why in the hell would anyone else want to come forward and post in this thread only to be beaten down by by a bunch of internet bullies intent on making victims feel like they are at fault, when they are not! You have already made up your mind. And yes, I guardamntee you will have a wonderful experience with Dr. Illan and Omar. Of course you will, if he is intelligent enough to know exactly what woman are vulnerable enough to prey upon for his own personal satisfaction, then one can only assume he is also intelligent enough to realize he better be on his best behavior now that he has been publicly called out.

Have you ever been taken advantage of and trusted someone only to realize later you were used and preyed upon due to your emotional state at that time? It does happen. Omar is a man, he has needs like any other man. However, a true professional would recognize where and when it is appropriate to seek to have those needs satisfied. Regardless of how woman may or may not react to him, he always insisted to me that he never had and never would consider entering into anything other than a professional relationship with Dr. Illan's patients. But, clearly by the woman who have not been afraid to come forward despite the bullying of his supporters, he has not spoken the truth to me. He lied to me.

The more vehemently these same handful of people continue to insist they know the parties involved, and the more they insist they know they are not telling the truth, the more I wonder what they have to benefit from disproving them, and what they will lose if they don't.

Thank you for coming forward and sharing your experience. I know how difficult this must have been for you, and hopefully by doing so you will prevent this from happening to others.

Lol. You must be a southern girl too! Bless her heart indeed. I will talk to Bill tonight about getting you and Alex your rings!