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Rather than going back to your surgeon maybe try a dietian. 800 cal is way to low. Try my fitness pal app i was like you didnt want to track etc but its easy with this app. Maybe get your surgeon to look for underlying causes for your lack of weight loss. Blood tests etc.

7 hours ago, You Are My Sunshine said:

How come?

Because if i could turn back time I wouldnt do it

well I am 5 months out, would i do it again? No I wouldn't. I hate it, I wasn't ready and the reality of it is nothing like what I thought it would be.

It can and does happen, I also know people who lost weight and gained it all back and are now at their starting weight plus have the challenges being sleeved gives you. You still need will power and commitment to make this work long term and it doesnt come easy

Yeah I am the same, yes i might look good/ better now but i dont feel it. Tired often just a feeling of unwellness, hungry all the time. No energy, I hope this gets better. Your not alone feeling this way (((hugs)))

On 11/29/2021 at 1:25 AM, cellbell said:

Because the surgery helps people better manage a very strict diet program so they can actually sticks to it. Some people lose their hunger for months, making it much easier to be satisfied at 800 calories. Even when hunger returns, a smaller stomach helps with Portion Control.

But whats the point if you are miserable 🙁and for some its given them reflux Personally I am physically hungry all the time I cant seem to get that feeling of satisfaction. Plus the reflux

The worst fatty food i have tried was kfc chicken tenders, didnt have an issue and i didnt have an issue with lollies either or chocolate 😲 or coke or bread 😲😲 which could in the long run be a bad thing. I can have a handful of chips but anymore than that it sit yucky but no foamies or anything. Some of us are lucky in that regard or unlucky as getting thev oamies certainly would be a huge deturant from eating those types of foods

1 hour ago, evanrj said:

The surgery is merely a tool. If there was a magical surgery they could keep us from eating too much or having cravings or all of the things that lead up to our situations, they would need to be operating on our brain, not our stomachs.

Even with a small stomach, there is nothing that would keep a person from eating ten meals a day If they put them really close together. And, even with a smaller capacity, you can put some high calorie stuff through there! Think of all of the soft foods that don’t even fill you up and just slide right by. You can put a lot of calories through your body.

At the end of the day the surgery is a tool to help you on your journey. But there is a lot of other work that Hass to be done. Most surgery programs recommend support groups, and other practices to help you get that part down. But successful weight loss has everything to do with changing the way you relate to food. All the surgery does is help you to feel full faster - assuming you eat protein-dense foods. I’m really sad if your Program led you to believe that this would fix everything. That’s just not the way it is.

Exactly, which is why the op and many others feel like this. My observations and experience on this journey has lead me to believe to succeed long term with this surgery you need to be the type of person who would succeed with normal diet and exercise programs and if you can do that why would you need surgery. Surgery is a kick start caused by the early after surgery effects where you physically cant eat and your body is forced to survive on a low calorie diet. But once the body heals and you can start bringing in "normal" foods that is where you need will power and commitment and this is where it fails as some of us are lead to believe that the Portion Control side of things is what looses the weight. I have been very surprised by the amount and types of foods i can actually eat ! I feel that perhaps the op may experience the same. Its not the fault of the op for being disappointed and to have feelings of being misinformed. My dietian told me prior to surgery and again after surgery that I could eat as I did pre surgery and loose weight because of the portion control side of things.... false. My surgeon told me AFTER surgery at my 3 month post op appointment that the effects of the sleeve last 18 months to 2 years at the most and what happens after that is entirely up to you. So yes if you look at it like that why are we cutting pieces off a perfectly healthy vital organ for short term benefit. Studies now show that gut health plays a huge roll in weight control among other modern health issues so maybe that is another solution that should be looked at before surgery as I dont even know if we are able to do what it takes to get out gut health right after surgery. That is something i plan to look into.

1 hour ago, Arabesque said:

Now I’ve had the foamies a few times in my 2.5yrs from just the hacking cough of something feels stuck & a little saliva to the full regurgitation of whatever I’ve eaten. Each time the foamies related to eating something too coarse, too dry or too fast. Last night the coughing started like something was stuck but I actually hadn’t eaten for hours (8hrs - no lunch no diner - long story). Was understandably hungry so grabbed some chicken when I finally got home. Still coughing. Few minutes later, coughing worsens, salvia starts coming up & then the one bite of chicken I’d had bubbled up. Thing was it wasn’t the chicken, that was just the final straw. I believe the real cause was that I hadn’t really had anything to drink either (same long story). I was way below goal & was likely dehydrated.

Moral is seems you have to stay hydrated to avoid the foamies or the potential foamies too. So we keep learning new things even when we think we’ve a handle on what doesn’t work for us.

Yeah i find my reflux plays up when i haven't eaten, it sucks 😞

Hope all went well and goes well

On 11/4/2021 at 3:48 AM, lizonaplane said:

I've had doctors say people's feet don't shrink, but I know from personal experience they do. Doctors can be so clueless sometimes.

I guess what they mean is the bones dont shrink but if you have fat feet and you loose weight of course they will get smaller just like your hands /fingers do

I am always hungry, no its not head hunger my stomach growls and carries on. I am getting my Protein target, i just wish i could feel satisfied after eating 😞

9 hours ago, BariJen said:

I had my surgery 11/24/21. I had A LOT of nausea after the surgery which ended up extending my stay in the hospital. I have been struggling to meet my Water goals and following the post op diets. I am not cheating on the post op meal plans but it is hard for me to get the food in. I have been losing weight but I just had this feeling of pointlessness and find myself wondering if I made the right decision or if this was a big mistake. I want to succeed but everything feels so overwhelming. I am not sure if this is normal - hoping this feeling will subside as more time passes? Has anyone else gone through something similar?

Yes go back and read all my posts,I was a mess, i am 5 months out its getting easier but yes a lot of people go through what you are going through. ((Hugs))

4 hours ago, ShoppGirl said:

Some people only have to do two days of liquids so I’m guessing they will still do your surgery but I would be asking myself some questions. Are you really truly ready for the surgery. I passed my psyc evaluation when I shouldn’t have and I have been racing the clock in therapy trying to get a handle on my emotional and boredom eating before it’s too late. I didn’t realize I ate when board or emotionally until post surgery and the psyc didn’t ask enough questions in my opinion to discover it. Anyways, I am not saying you shouldn’t do the surgery but you possibly could benefit from talking to a bariatric therapist. Your hunger hormones should be gone post surgery but head hunger will still be an issue if you suffer from disordered eating which only you can know. I am doing it (therapy and weight loss phase) simultaneously and I have almost lost all my weight but I was a smaller BMI to start so I can afford to lose it slower than some people. (Meaning the weight should still all be off before the honeymoon phase is over for me even with the slower loss). I know once I made up my mind to do the surgery i did not want to push it back for anything. I wanted it sooner. I am just sharing my experience cause I think this has also been a harder road for me than if I completed the therapy before surgery.

You sound alot like me. I gave the same advice. If you cant stick to the short pre op are you really ready. I am guessing the surgery date for the OP has been and gone. I wonder how they are going ? OP are you out there? Update?

1 hour ago, cheryl o said:

thats what i want to know. Today i had a cup of chicken Soup, and ate too fast, had chest pain, and threw it up. Im gonna be 6 weeks post op, had RNY and the most structure food ive eaten is just chicken Soup and 1egg. That pain in my chest, thats not dumping correct? Im still doing yogurt and Protein Drinks daily. im terrified of solid food and feel "safe " this way. Oh, and im loosing hair, started at 3 weeks post op

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I dont think that was dumping, you just ate to much to fast and made yourself vomit. You need to slowly move to solids. 3 weeks is early to have Hair loss are you taking Vitamins etc?

I wouldnt worry to much seeing how you were only required 1 week of pre op i am guessing you are at the lower end bmi, i had hungry jacks 2 nights before surgery and didnt stick to my pre op 100% but i should have seen that as a red flag that i wasnt ready 😞

You need to see a dr, free clinic an option or contact your surgery, surely follow up appointments were part of your package ?

Yes check in with your team

19 hours ago, ms.sss said:

When i was about 2 months out I had a couple sips of a soju-sake (sugary alcoholic drink) thinking it was just a couple sips and it was xmas, so what’s the harm?

Anyhoo, about 10 mins later my heart started racing, and i started to feel tired. A few mins after that i got nauseated and had to poop (not the explosive, didnt make it to washroom kind, but urgent and loose nonetheless). Then i was exhausted and had to go to sleep.

Figured it was dumping.

About a month later i had 2-3 tablespoons of a VERY sugary, creamy fruit salad. This time it was like death. I had “material “ coming out BOTH ends, lol. Mr literally picked me up off the bathroom floor and carried up the stairs to put me in bed and i slept it off for a few hours.

KNEW it was dumping.

Sugar does not affect me as badly/quickly now (am 3 years out). But i still have to watch it. I can lessen the effects if i eat small amounts, ensure that i don’t eat excess sugar on am empty stomach, and try not to mix dairy and excess sugar at the same time.

Case in point: yesterday i didn’t want to eat dinner (i made stir fry noodles for the fam and I don’t really eat noodles). I did end up eating 3 sour key candies later while watching tv (yeah i know that was dumb). Anyhoo, i got the heart racing, the onset of exhaustion and a mild death feeling and ended up going to bed super early. No poop or barf issues, but still unpleasant.

P.S. Im a sleeve.

I got dumping in the lesser degree no mad rush to the toilet or cramping. I thought i was having panic attacks until my surgeon said nope its dumping no more shakes for you . He said it might improve once i went to solids which it did but i havent been game to have shakes or smoothies again

On 11/10/2021 at 4:46 AM, You Are My Sunshine said:

Yes trying to do that. Feeling some shame, disappointment.

Don't feel bad you weren't ready and what you did was the right thing for now. I wish i had have listen to my instincts.

On 11/27/2021 at 9:57 AM, LouLouM said:

And I'm sorry to "hijack" your post, but reading the replies has me curious about Protein Water. I wonder if any of them are any good? Please chime in, everyone! I'm curious to know if anyone has one in particular that they can recommend.

I find some of the flavoured ones can cause reflux

On 11/10/2021 at 4:29 AM, You Are My Sunshine said:

Well. I went through the program, got approved, got a date, did my 2 week liquid diet, took my Gatorade the night before (to kick you out of ketosis), washed with Hibiclens, got all my Proteins, packed my bag, washed with Hibiclens for the 2nd time...

And then I started to have a meltdown.

I could hardly get to the car. Finally, I got in the car, went to the hospital did (a little late to my check-in time). I went to the counter to check in and just said, "I'd like to cancel my surgery." Dude raised his eyebrows, said OK. And I left. Slammed a Protein Drink in the car, came home and had a little broth with tofu.

I'm not sure how to feel about it. I felt a wave of peace after leaving the hospital. But now I just feel kind of empty. I've been planning this for so long. I told people about it. I did everything that would indicate I was going to have it... and then I didn't.

Has anyone been on this side of things? Did you end up getting surgery later?

I wish I had have had the balls to do that.

On 12/6/2021 at 3:38 PM, Angelina1210 said:

Hello All,

I’m scheduled for surgery on December 10th. My surgery will be in Mexico because my insurance will not cover weight loss surgery. Today, I got a call from my pastors wife and she expressed her concerns about me going to Mexico. I’ve done my research and my weight is emotionally and physically taking a toll on me and I’ve been so excited but since talking to her, I no longer feel confident and I feel like negative thoughts have been projected on me. I was happy but now I’m feeling like this was too good to be true and maybe I shouldn’t go. This is why I should’ve kept tho to myself. I tried to be open about it and I’m getting negative feedback and it’s got my anxiety way up which is something I do not need right now. Any thoughts? I could use some encouragement. Thanks 😏

At the end of the day its your choice, i didnt tell anyone because i didnt want negativity to make me change my mind, when i got to the hospital i was scared and basically changed my mind. The nurses and surgeon treated it as pre op nerves. I wish i didnt do it. I am 5 months out still tired, feel unwell most days struggle with what to eat most days but i have lost weight although that has stalled already. I also find myself slipping back into my old habits....so for me I should have tried good old fashion diet because the habits that got me fat arent going to be stopped by the sleeve. Sorry i know you wanted positive encouragement but i think its important to know all possible outcomes. At the end of the day its your choice and you will be anxious about no matter what anyone says. I had no negativity before but i still freaked out. Sorry i am probably not helping i will delete my comment if you want.

1 hour ago, Elaine77 said:

My heart racing is not unusual for me in the throes of panic and Im getting all necessary liquids and then some. I do have a minor heart condition AND vasovagal that exacerbate this and I took a heart pill but it didnt help...probably because the culprit was anxiety. Its such a vicious circle. My anxiety was under better control pre-op than it had been my entire life.

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didn't they advise you that your anxiety could increase? I didn't have an anxiety prior to surgery but it went through the roof after. I wasn't pre warned either but I didn't have a history of anxiety. it will most likely be your hormones and if you are of an age where peri-menopause is possible it will defiantly be hormones. I ended up going on HRT to settle mine down.

On 12/4/2021 at 11:50 PM, Chandalier said:

Did they give you pain meds after surgery and how did you keep them down... I'm nervous about the pain,I'm a big baby when it comes to pain!

not a lot of pain once you get out its more uncomfortable