Tony B - NJ

Good luck!

A subtle non scale victory. I had a suit custom made. When I went to pick up the suit the tailor brought it out on a hanger and I told him that was not my suit. It looked to me like a teenager’s suit. He opened it up and showed me it was mine. Amazed how small I have become. I still feel like a fat guy.

I just hit 100 pounds lost this morning. Started out at 293 and am 193 today! I am 8 months post surgery and have slowed WAY DOWN so every pound is a celebration!

I am wondering the same thing. I am 7 months post op and have hovered around 295 pounds for about 5 weeks. I am down 98 pounds total. I hope it is just a stall because I would like to see another 10 pound loss.

Absolutely need to get this checked out in case it is DVT. It is not uncommon after any surgery for this to happen. Are you wearing your compression stockings? I would get to the ER or at VERY LEAST call the Doctor ASAP. I had similar pains and was sent to the ultrasound immediately. Ended up being nothing and I think was just due to all the walking I did in stocking feet the day of and after the surgery.

1 minute ago, thinblueline said:

i am not being defensive and it would make sense now i would be seeing i am being accused as such im trying my best to be a part of his site and now its going to be even harder to "belong " and who are we to make others aware of being of such behaviors we are all in this together right , anyway thats how i feel and i am entitled to this, thank you grady cat 🙂 for your support or makin it clear.

Good luck to you. I have not seen anyone else have the issues you are having but I can sympathize. We will all be ready to help when needed regardless of what has transpired because that is what people on here do.

Start from ground zero and get back to your post surgical processes. They worked then, they can work again. You have to get the discipline back and stick to it. We all fall back from time to time.

21 minutes ago, thinblueline said:

Im sorry you feel that way but i am not at all defensive thank you.I think you are reading into my posts a little to much Keith, have a good day, i mean that i am really not being defensive.😎

Coop

You make my point for me with this post. YOU have a nice day, seems like you could use a good day.

Kind of difficult to respond to this without details. Have you completely abandoned exercise and food tracking? Did you decide to start eating foods that were not in your post surgical food recommendations?

15 hours ago, thinblueline said:

Toodlerue :

help me understand what you're referring to when you said you read all my posts the last 4 months i have only been on here about a month.

With all do respect, you are very defensive and a touch confrontational in your responses. I experienced this with you a couple weeks ago. People are not going to respond if they feel they are at risk of being attacked for their opinion. You are from the Boston area it seems, as am I originally and I know that people from there can be a little pushy and argumentative so I get it. Chill out a little my friend.

After losing nearly 100 pounds and slowing down the weight loss I felt it was time to purchase a suit just in case the need arises where I need one. The Salesperson took me over to the "modern fit" area and tried on a jacket. He then took that off and brought me over to the "slim fit" area and tried on jackets there. The slim fit fit me perfectly. I went from a 52 Regular, Executive Fit to a 42 short, Slim fit. And the pants went from a 50 waist to a 36 waist. When I was checking out he saw I had purchased a suit about 18 months ago and asked who I bought those suits for since they were so large...it felt really good to answer him that I lost the weight but even better feeling to be in a slim fitting suit.

I used to work in a company that offered that insurance to the union employees. I do not think they cover WLS of any kind but it is best to call them to make sure since plans do change from year to year so it may be different now.

1 hour ago, thinblueline said:

I am wondering why it's so hard to be a part of this site I reach out to others and get no or barely any replies is it a big clique , it matters to me because I to am having gbs and therefore want to share... Have a good day

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People will respond if it is something that they have experienced or have knowledge about. They will also respond if they disagree with something you are saying or advice you have been given. Just keep posting and you will see more and more interaction. The more you post to other's the more you will see your posts responded to.

3 hours ago, WhispersOfAngel said:

I guess I'm just confused about your replies. You stated you have no mental issues, but on another thread I read your reply about having bipolar disorder. It's kind of difficult to reply to you when on one thread you admit to a condition, then on another thread you deny having mental issues. We're all here to support each other and discuss the topics surrounding weight loss surgeries. We all want to see each other be successful with weight loss, but it's hard to give support when there's hostility and denial in these threads. We have to be 100% completely honest with ourselves or else we won't be successful.

I agree with other posters that have suggested counseling that encompasses not only bipolar/mood issues but also any possible issues with food. It's the best way to ensure that your weight loss surgery is successful. Weight loss surgery is a surgery on your stomach, not your brain. It will not fix any issues going on mentally.

Best wishes to you.

Very well said. I was also trying to get across your statement that it is a stomach surgery, not a brain surgery. That is a great way to put it and so true.

4 hours ago, thinblueline said:

First of all i have been in therapy for the last 9 yrs. and i don't have any "Mental issues" thank you also i have only been on here for about a week so do me a favor please don't take my inventory ok , thanks....and no i am not attacking you i am clearly setting a boundarie' with you. You seem to have some control issues going on😎. Have a good day.

You are taking "mental issues" in the way that counselling is considered a stigma. I certainly didn't mean it in the negative sense at all. I am saying that before you have the surgery you should have these concerns and worries worked out because it is a tough road once you get it done and for those who are still struggling with things, it is hard to be succesful.

15 hours ago, thinblueline said:

Like i said i am not sure if am a food addict( I'm not denying as such) however ALL MY LIFE i have been BIG my biggest was 310 and i am now at 288 and i know i need to do something about or its going to ruin my life if it has not done so already i have to admit i love food i am not so sure if i love eating it i even get angry with my wife when she asks me what do you want for dinner i am sick f hearing it , its almost like a task you have to work at , enough already, am i making any sense i think i am fighting this "food addict" issue almost like i cant or wont admit it as a result of if i have an issue i have to do something about it and maybe i am denying the obvious, i don't want to be held accountable for this disorder i have enough shame in my life already,

I think we have seen a number of posts from you in the past couple weeks that indicate you are really struggling with some mental/emotional issues that need to be addressed if you are going to be successful in your weight loss journey. The struggle is not only having the surgery and the weight loss begins but the mental aspect of it. You have to be mentally committed to getting it done and be able to resist temptation. In addition to the eating portion in a physical sense, if you are not mentally OK with your life and your situation, you are not going to be successful. I urge you to get some counselling ASAP if you are going to go on this weight loss journey.

1 hour ago, summerseeker said:

There are many, many people on here who keep there weight loss surgery a secret. That way you get less negative comments. I told my husband and son. Its no one else's business. You can't unsay it now so you need to just smile and say the statistics are in my corner this time, even if you , my brother are not. Be strong, you got this and us on here. PS. I always know what to say, 10 minutes after I need it

I told my wife, obviously and my son and daughter in law...that is all. They are super supportive and know the amount of work that is required, they are educated and informed. The rest of the family knows nothing because to be totally honest, they do not have the mental ability to understand what goes into this and how much work it is. It is not a magic pill, it is not like going in and getting the fat cut out and sewed back up. It is hard work.

After 6 months I still struggle with this. Especially if I am out with others at dinner or lunch. I get involved in conversation and eat at the pace everyone else is at. I really have to slow down, count 30 chews, put my fork down between bites and take my time. I think time does matter as much as how much it is chewed up, for me atleast. I think I have to give the food time to work itself down into the stomach. When I go too fast, I get sick and either throw up, or honestly, I feel so bad I induce vomiting to get it out. It is a work in progress.

Educate yourself...talk to the Doctor, don't take everything on here as gospel. People have personal stories to tell that you may not know the entire picture of their situation which may explain some of the issues that they have and you may or may not have.

Several months ago when I was heavier I always seemed to have to hike up my pants because most likely my belly was pushing them down and had to constantly adjust. I noticed now that I am down 12 inches on my waist, my belt holds up my properly fitting pants and I am not constantly adjusting, pulling up, tightening, loosening etc.

4 minutes ago, WhispersOfAngel said:

Okay first of all, I never commented that anyone who does not agree with me is, "foolish and childish."

My comment >>> And there's also other weight loss surgeries than the sleeve. Each surgery has it's own benefits and risks. It's best to get all of the information and read about personal outcomes to help decide which surgery is best for you or if surgery is even an option. But discounting real side effects/complications of wls is just foolish and chidlish.

I commented that discounting real side effects/complications of wls is just foolish and childish.

Secondly, "texts" as in typed comments on this site. Such as this the

ead when you were being patronizing.

Thirdly, I never once said anyone should NOT get VSG. Not once. Please show me where I typed that. I simply said... "Each surgery has its own benefits and risks. It's best to get all of the information and read about personal outcomes to help decide which surgery is best for you or if surgery is even an option."

I posted ONE study. It's food for thought for those considering any weight loss surgery. I don't "keep quoting one study" I posted one once.

You can't seem to make a viable rebuttal in this thread. You seem to be confusing me for saying things I didn't say and quoting studies that I didn't post. 🤦‍♀️

Your foolish and childish statement was referring to your overall point and anyone who discounts them is foolish and childish. Not to sound condescending but it does not take an English Major to see that this is consistent with the statement I made about YOUR condescension.

You are referring to texts when you probably should say "posts" or "replies" or "quotes". I get it.

The "text" you refer to was not me being condescending at all, it was a simple question to the OP whether they were counting their calories and meeting their nutritional goals so some perspective on their situation can be gained. That is something I see hundreds of times to a poster who asks a question or reaches out for help.

I can go back and forth with this all day. You are obviously internalizing this particular issue for a real reason and maybe you can get some help for it on here or elsewhere. I would be happy to help talk you through it and maybe give you some advice.

Good luck

55 minutes ago, WhispersOfAngel said:

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31279562/#:~:text=Background%3A The development of gastroesophageal,LSG is up to 35%.

35% is more than 1/3 of sleeve patients. That seems significant to me. And yes, it's not typical GERD.

Please stop being so condescending on these posts. I've noticed that even via text you are very condescending. The point of these threads is to be informative and supportive. It's not my surgery vs your surgery, etc. We're sharing information (often our personal experiences from years of living with weight loss surgery) to allow people to make informed decisions and to sit back and type, "GERD, yes, but to the point you mention, absolutely not. I would say it is extremely rare and the medical professionals I spoke to confirm that."

It is not rare. When patients experience post weight loss surgery GERD it is not typical. The strongest PPI's on a double dose doesn't touch it.

Me condescending? You commented that anyone who does not agree with you is "foolish and childish". I am certainly not being condescending. Also, what "texts" are you talking about? I never texted anyone on here. I am being VERY supportive, I just do not agree with you that people should not get the VSG based on possibly getting GERD. You keep quoting one study when there are many studies that may have different conclusions than this one. A scientific study can prove that for instance coffee causes cancel but then you read another that says coffee aids in cancer prevention. Which one to believe? Fact is we disagree on your fears in this situation. Does that make me foolish and childish because I do not agree with you. I am not being condescending....i at no point attacked or called you names. Can you say the same thing? look in the mirror please.

30 minutes ago, WhispersOfAngel said:

Post weight loss surgery GERD is real. GERD so bad that PPI's can't touch it. PPI's have very bad side effects. I got a kidney stone from overuse of PPI's for post weight loss surgery GERD.

GERD is causing wls patients to get Barrett's esophagus and Barrett's esophagus can become esophageal cancer.

These are serious effects of weight loss surgery that should be taken seriously and all potential weight loss surgery patients should be aware that it's not just heartburn or reflux and depending on which surgery you choose, it could happen to you...

It's an individual decision that one must weigh their own personal comorbidities/issues for deciding on wls against the benefits and risks of wls.

And there's also other weight loss surgeries than the sleeve. Each surgery has it's own benefits and risks. It's best to get all of the information and read about personal outcomes to help decide which surgery is best for you or if surgery is even an option. But discounting real side effects/complications of wls is just foolish and chidlish.

No one is discounting anything. All I am saying is that people should educate themselves and get a variety of opinions and sources. I am sure there are complications from GERD, but there are many, many, many complications from being morbidly obese. There are so many complications from morbid obesity that insurance companies and the FDA approve of these surgeries for these people. It is not because they want skinny people but because the overwhelming cost the insurance companies endure because of the complications of morbidly obese people. If the chance of GERD was as great as you are assuming, they would not pay for this costly procedure and use that as their crutch to get out of it. That is just business. The fact is, the cost to human life from morbid obesity is much, much greater than many give it credit for. Look at Covid alone, the obesity factor in death and bad outcomes was HUGE. And obesity, even moderate obesity in the high thirties and low 40 BMI ranges are devastating long term for cardiovascular health. That is a fact that is NOT disputed by medical doctors. I get that you are having a bad experience with GERD, but again, I say that I would rather have GERD than die a premature death because I was too afraid to have the surgery. The severity of GERD you are referring to does not happen at the rates that were previously identified in the "study". GERD, yes, but to the point you mention, absolutely not. I would say it is extremely rare and the medical professionals I spoke to confirm that.

17 hours ago, carpeediem said:

I wish I had read this post weeks ago! I also wish I would've just learned to love the "fat" me instead of having this surgery

I don't think one study is enough to change someone's opinion or make a certain outcome fact. There are studies done every day on various things coming up with totally different conclusions. The outcome is often, whether on purpose or not, supporting the opinion the study team goes in with and they prove their point. in real life, in the support groups I attend and the research I do online and through my Doctor, I have not seen what this is saying and if so, I see very few people who would not accept a trade off. I am one of those people who were obese, could run, jump, swim etc, etc but how long can someone at a 43-45% bmi continue to live like that? Along with the weight comes diabetes type II, High blood pressure, high cholesterol etc. These are all warning signs for heart disease. Given the choice of GERD or dying 15 years early due to heart disease, stroke, diabetes complications etc I would choose the GERD. The quality of life i have right now at 100 pounds less is incredible. The way I feel about myself and the confidence I have now is incredible. The feeling that I am not being looked at and scorned or fat shamed is incredible. The ability to run and play with my 5 y/o granddaughter and not struggle during and after is incredible. Don't let yourself be influenced by one study or one person. There are millions of positive testimonials out there, thousands of doctors and dieticians out there. The benefits far outweigh the few issues that SOME people may be having.

Many people have GERD or will develop GERD with or without the surgery. People that are obese have a good chance of developing GERD as they age. My question would be would you rather be obese or of healthy weight and have GERD? I would rather be healthy weight and have a treatable GERD problem over obesity and all the many health issues that come with that that I no longer have like Type 2 diabetes, High blood pressure, high cholesterol etc