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Has anyone who healed from gastric bypass , tried to snort cocaine ? Did it cause stomach ulcers? I know it's rough on the digestive system.

Did it give you the same rush of dopamine, no appetite, and extra energy as before surgery ? " I am not saying i do or did cocaine"

I am just asking questions, to learn, how our body changes after surgery.

The coca leaf, is a plant grown in the ground, just like marijuana, people chew on it, in south America for extra energy.

The surgeons allow you to use prescribed, amphetamine salts that are crushed not xr. aka adderall . so what's the difference.?

I am not talking about people with heart issues, or high blood pressure .

Not mixing cocaine with alcohol either , that makes the toxic drug, cocaethylene.

I understand cocaine is addictive, and illegal so spare me the addiction transfer speeches.

I guess my question is has anyone survived life, after gastric bypass surgery, without dying after a few lines of Blow ? Without stomach ulcers etc?

Has anyone tried it and got no dopamine reward ? because of the surgery ? I read a few articles explain something about stomach bile?

great work

once a week

thanks so much , i recommend to everyone don't be in a rush to get back to eating , if you are taking the Vitamins, Protein and Water intake. If your not hungry don't eat. Ride out the no appetite as long as you can . I don't even think about food .

if you don't mind me asking what did you do to cause the ulcers ? i dont judge you can message me if you want ? i'm just trying to learn

I am a few days away from a month after my gastric bypass surgery , I have been doing everything my surgeon told me to do .

I can't believe i lost 65 lbs in 27 days !!!

I'm finally feeling happy , lighter, and healthier today.

If you are not extremely strong, physically but mostly mentally . This journey is not for you.

In my first month I overcame 2 major issues, on top of and including my surgery recovery.

Alcohol free " reversing a large fatty liver" and testosterone infections free too I'm proud of myself . natural test levels are not back yet but feeling better everyday. my energy level is increasing everyday. i do 2, 20 minute walks per day.

I really have no appetite, but i get my Vitamins and Protein Shakes in everyday. and Water .

my next diet stage is real soft food again, but i hate the full feeling so i rather just drink fluids.

thanks for all the advice on my previous posts i took them with a grain of salt. But everyone helped me find light at the end of the depression tunnel.

I will not try anything without dr. approval.

Anyone interested in healthy living and fatty liver issues, look up Dr. Berg on youtube and subscribe !!!! he's extremely helpful !!!

Yeah that makes sense because when you start getting symptoms you go to the emergency room when you start throwing up blood or blood in your stool. So you won’t die from sepsis. Thanks I appreciate your responses

Huh Interesting that’s the first time I ever heard that I’ll have to ask my surgeon thank you

Thank you very much for being honest and to the point with me. I appreciate all the experiences I can get

ok thanks yeah i don't drink alcohol, and yes i know about the addiction transfer.

i was just curious where is there scientific fact proving that RNY are more prone to getting ulcers than people with VSG ?

like i said above :

So far I found out from my dietitian and surgeon about Gastric Bypass Ulcers :

1, they can heal themselves.

2. there is medication someone can take to heal the ulcer.

3. dying from sepsis is the worst case scenario which is extremely rare according to my doctor and dietitian ?!! thanks so much

so far no one on here has said they know anyone that has died from an ulcer after gastric bypass ? or sepsis ?

I just look at worst case scenarios 1st .

actually more people die from drug overdoses and alcohol poisoning after gastric bypass due to the addiction transfer.

https://www.bariatric-surgery-source.com/gastric-bypass-surgery-deaths.html

i have the answer, relax you will be fine your surgeon will tell you that you can continue using your medication, post operation.

BUT ONLY IN THE CRUSHABLE FORM YOU NEED TO MIX IT WITH A SIP OF Water TO TAKE THEM.

example adderall xr and effexor xr are time released you can not take them .

you doctor can prescribe you crushable versions of each drug.

wow interesting thanks for your experience . can you remember if you did any of those things in your first 30 days after surgery ? I see you also have the sleeve, I had gastric bypass.

Apparently according to the "talking heads" and the web md rabbit hole, there is a major difference between the two surgery's as far as ulcers go ? your surgery they claim is not as ulcer prone. ???

obviously I take all the information with a grain of salt.

My surgeon is from Russia, and hard to talk to and understand but he's a great surgeon. extremely overly strict. even according to his team, and dietitian agrees.

he makes it seem like you are doomed for the rest of your life, you can never do anything, again and if you get an ulcer its a death sentence and you will die of sepsis.

emotionally , mentally, and physically i'm going through a hard time figuring out this surgery post op for the rest of my life.

thank you for your experiences

6 minutes ago, WishMeSmaller said:

I got COVID back in November and have asthma. I started a short course (5 days) of steroids due to the asthma flaring. My stomach started to hurt and I stopped them after 4 days. I had no further symptoms from the steroids and just the few days of prednisone got my COVID/asthma lungs feeling better. The benefits seemed to outweigh the risks at the time.

I drink occasionally. Usually wine, but a very occasional cocktail. I don’t seem to have any issues from my infrequent indulgence. I do not smoke, take nsaids, or other drugs.

I’m sorry you contracted COVID-19 I hope you’re doing better. When you say your stomach hurt with the steroids, did your surgeon give you a test to see if it was an ulcer?

Thank you so much for the responses

thanks so much,

in 6 years with gastric bypass , you have never once had a sip of alcohol ? nicotine ? weed ? Nsaids ? or any drug that can cause an ulcer ?

I'm sorry if its a personal question you don't have to answer. I just hear so many conflicting stories, I just trying to understand the truth behind "following the rules" of gastric bypass

If you don't mind me asking , has anyone had or has had a stomach ulcer ? staple line ulcer ? marginal ulcer ? and if you did have an ulcer at some point.

Can you shed some insight and truth on preventive measures, and how to deal with them?

You can be honest with me and direct message me about drugs , or alcohol, or weed, or cigarettes or whatever, you took, that caused the ulcers, if you do not want to make it public you can Direct message me , and explain . I would really appreciate any real world facts on this please .

thanks so much

So far I found out from my dietitian and surgeon :

1, they can heal themselves.

2. there is medication someone can take to heal the ulcer.

3. dying from sepsis is the worst case scenario which is extremely rare according to my doctor and dietitian ?!! thanks so much

If you don't mind me asking , has anyone had or has had a stomach ulcer ? staple line ulcer ? marginal ulcer ? and if you did have an ulcer at some point.

Can you shed some insight and truth on preventive measures, and how to deal with them?

You can be honest with me and direct message me about drugs , or alcohol, or weed, or cigarettes or whatever, you took, that caused the ulcers, if you do not want to make it public you can Direct message me , and explain . I would really appreciate any real world facts on this please .

thanks so much

So far I found out from my dietitian and surgeon :

1, they can heal themselves.

2. there is medication someone can take to heal the ulcer.

3. dying from sepsis is the worst case scenario which is extremely rare according to my doctor and dietitian ?!! thanks so much

11 hours ago, RickM said:

A couple of comments to fill things in here.

It's not really a matter of steroids vs. non-steroids, but rather what a drug or class of drugs does to the stomach as a side effect, NSAIDs are merely the most common that are sited as being problematic for bypass patients. The issue is that the part of the intestine where where the stomach pouch is connected is not resistant to the stomach acid, so that anastomosis there is quite vulnerable to ulcers, so any med that can cause some stomach distress is generally to be avoided. Some of the osteoporosis drugs are avoided for this reason, too. This presumably applies to the MGB as well, as it uses a similar connection. The duodenum, the part of intestine immediately downstream of the stomach and is resistant to the acid, is bypassed along with the remnant stomach.

These various meds can sometimes be used in limited times under certain circumstances under medical supervision, but it's a risk/reward trade off between doctor and patient. The sleeve based procedures are generally more tolerant as they don't have that marginal ulcer issue, but many docs still restrict them owing to their bypass experience, (and the sleeve is probably less tolerant than a normal person, while being more tolerant than a bypasser.)

Your bypass can be reversed, (that is sometimes one of its "selling points" but it's not commonly done as it's a pretty complex job; not all surgeons will do it. It is usually reserved for times when there is no other option in treating some problem, rather than just buyers remorse. I have seen it done a couple of times in cases of intransigent ulcers, where no other treatment worked. It can also be revised to a duodenal switch, but that's even more complex than a reversal (they have to reverse it first, then sleeve it, and redo the intestinal rerouting. It is usually done when weight loss was inadequate or with excessive regain, or for other RNY complications such as the intransigent ulcers or bile reflux.

You weren't offered the MGB as it doesn't fit the "standard of care" for WLS in the US - insurance doesn't normally cover it and the ASMBS hasn't approved it, though it has been further developed and used more commonly elsewhere. The next procedure that's likely to gain approval here is the SIPS/SADI/Loop DS

If you don't mind me asking , in your 10 years with the sleeve have you ever had a stomach ulcer ? and if you did have an ulcer at some point.

1, they can heal themselves.

2. there is medication someone can take to heal the ulcer.

3. dying from sepsis is the worst case scenario which is extremely rare according to my doctor and dietitian ?!! thanks so much

Has anyone on here continued using TRT after surgery? Did u get bad ulcers ? Did you not ?

Thanks

haha that's awesome news. you and i are different i was using test replacement so its going to take awhile for it to come back, but i have done it before and i know what to expect.

clomid would make the recovery much eaiser.

it did before. i forgot to mention i was on trt prescribed by a doctor and closely monitored everything was fine i was bench pressing 405 lbs, but my health now is most important now that I'm 40 years old , i have two young kids i want to see grow up. my dad died at 62 , i refused to let that happen to me.

what ever calories you consume in a day, if you burn what you consumed , and more you will lose weight.

if you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight.

I'm not exactly sure if that's exactly correct for gastric bypass surgery like i had. I'm a newbee

thanks sorry i posted the same thing a few times then i found the guys room forum

12 minutes ago, OAGBPal said:

Oh got it Thanks for explaining for me, man! I can't answer the questions about the NSAIDs but that does sound weird?

So the mini gastric bypass isn't really very 'mini' at all, but that's the name it has. It's getting increasingly popular in Europe, the Middle East, SE Asia and Australia.

Instead of dividing your intestine and making two "holes" (one in the small intestine, one in your pouch), they take a loop of the small intestine and staple it to the pouch instead.

Here's a diagram:

I chose the mini gastric bypass because:

- On average, we lose more weight than sleeve or roux-en-y/traditional bypass
- On average, we regain less
- On average, we have fewer complications than roux-en-y bypass
- On average, we tolerate foods better than both sleeve and roux-en-y bypass
- It's easily revisable (just move the place on the small intestine where it meets the pouch) or reversible (close the hole in the intestine, sew the pouch back into the remnant stomach)

The downside is there's more problems with GERD/heartburn, but there's a stitch now that some surgeons do that prevents it. I had severe GERD before and I don't have it now.

I'm really, really happy with the MGB so far.

Edit: ALL three surgeries are great and there's large variance in outcomes. So you can get a great result with ALL of them. I just knew myself ... and wanted the most help I could get

wow that's great i don't even think mini bypass was an option for me . i initially wanted the sleeve , but my insurance only covered gastric bypass 100%

was the mini out of pocket?

sometimes i get depressed thinking mine can not be reversed, not that i want to reverse it, its a mind game i play with myself i guess.

plus going through the surgery and diet and everything on top of trying to recover my natural testosterone is tough mentally

i start thinking i cant eat, i cant drink alcohol, I have no sex drive , but I'm down 50 lbs looking good. its a crazy mind game, I'm mentally tough ill be fine.

thanks