The Greater Fool

There's a reason when I describe my eating plan it is "3 meals of 3-4oz Protein, 1oz veggies, or when I am full, whichever comes first." Typically, I probably complete 1 meal of 5 or 6, and a couple bites in 1 meal of 5 or 6, then the others are somewhere between.
This is very normal for me, even all these years later.
Good luck,
Tek

One issue many post-ops have is high expectations pre-op. We think with the magic surgery we will be able to follow the draconian diet plan, or even just the strict diet plan, we are expected to keep that we've never been able to keep before. We think the magic surgery will make us keep the exercise plan that we've never been able to keep before. In short, the magic surgery will make us enjoy doing the things we hate doing and have never followed through on before.
Then we run smack into the wall of reality and think less of ourselves because it seems we are sabotaging ourselves.
My personal philosophy for post-op life was only to do things I felt I could follow through on. When I was considering surgery I evaluated the eating plans to ensure I could follow through and that it wouldn't feel like torture or even a hardship. I looked at exersise that I didn't dispise. If I didn't think I could/would sustain it I wouldn't commit to it.
During this 'honeymood period' you will lose weight almost no matter what you do. Now, this reward of weight loss is being associated with bad eating habits and bad drinking habits.
As @catwoman7 says, now is the time to build good habits that get associated with weight loss rewards. Later, when the going get's tough it will be the good habits you associate with weight loss which will keep you going.
We also make the big mistake thinking that the magic surgery will fix our heads when, in fact, it often makes what's going on in there worse. We often make the mistake of thinking we can do these big changes on our own. This is why support is so important. Family support, if it's truly available is helpful. Friends can be another help, again if it's truly available.
Professional support can be invaluable. Therapists can have vast experience with the coping issues you may not even know you are facing. They can provide you with new insights and new coping mechanisms to replace those the surgery took away.
Good luck,
Tek

One issue many post-ops have is high expectations pre-op. We think with the magic surgery we will be able to follow the draconian diet plan, or even just the strict diet plan, we are expected to keep that we've never been able to keep before. We think the magic surgery will make us keep the exercise plan that we've never been able to keep before. In short, the magic surgery will make us enjoy doing the things we hate doing and have never followed through on before.
Then we run smack into the wall of reality and think less of ourselves because it seems we are sabotaging ourselves.
My personal philosophy for post-op life was only to do things I felt I could follow through on. When I was considering surgery I evaluated the eating plans to ensure I could follow through and that it wouldn't feel like torture or even a hardship. I looked at exersise that I didn't dispise. If I didn't think I could/would sustain it I wouldn't commit to it.
During this 'honeymood period' you will lose weight almost no matter what you do. Now, this reward of weight loss is being associated with bad eating habits and bad drinking habits.
As @catwoman7 says, now is the time to build good habits that get associated with weight loss rewards. Later, when the going get's tough it will be the good habits you associate with weight loss which will keep you going.
We also make the big mistake thinking that the magic surgery will fix our heads when, in fact, it often makes what's going on in there worse. We often make the mistake of thinking we can do these big changes on our own. This is why support is so important. Family support, if it's truly available is helpful. Friends can be another help, again if it's truly available.
Professional support can be invaluable. Therapists can have vast experience with the coping issues you may not even know you are facing. They can provide you with new insights and new coping mechanisms to replace those the surgery took away.
Good luck,
Tek

One issue many post-ops have is high expectations pre-op. We think with the magic surgery we will be able to follow the draconian diet plan, or even just the strict diet plan, we are expected to keep that we've never been able to keep before. We think the magic surgery will make us keep the exercise plan that we've never been able to keep before. In short, the magic surgery will make us enjoy doing the things we hate doing and have never followed through on before.
Then we run smack into the wall of reality and think less of ourselves because it seems we are sabotaging ourselves.
My personal philosophy for post-op life was only to do things I felt I could follow through on. When I was considering surgery I evaluated the eating plans to ensure I could follow through and that it wouldn't feel like torture or even a hardship. I looked at exersise that I didn't dispise. If I didn't think I could/would sustain it I wouldn't commit to it.
During this 'honeymood period' you will lose weight almost no matter what you do. Now, this reward of weight loss is being associated with bad eating habits and bad drinking habits.
As @catwoman7 says, now is the time to build good habits that get associated with weight loss rewards. Later, when the going get's tough it will be the good habits you associate with weight loss which will keep you going.
We also make the big mistake thinking that the magic surgery will fix our heads when, in fact, it often makes what's going on in there worse. We often make the mistake of thinking we can do these big changes on our own. This is why support is so important. Family support, if it's truly available is helpful. Friends can be another help, again if it's truly available.
Professional support can be invaluable. Therapists can have vast experience with the coping issues you may not even know you are facing. They can provide you with new insights and new coping mechanisms to replace those the surgery took away.
Good luck,
Tek

"Easy Way? No thank you. I'll stick with the way which fails for 98% of us."
Good luck,
Tek

Most often when folks ask this question they already know their answer and it's usually "I will be drinking." In so many words, they are looking for someone to give them permission to drink.
Assuming your answer because you've already done your test in a safe environment. You will be with friends so you have a safety net that hopefully you will not need. It's easy to sit and drink and not realize you are over doing, so get up and walk around frequently to ensure you are OK.
A reason you are cautioned from drinking early is, in addition to avoiding empty calories, is transfer addiction. Early post-op food is not as available as comfort or a coping mechanism and other things can easily fill the gap. Be careful.
Enjoy your night out.
Tek

Most often when folks ask this question they already know their answer and it's usually "I will be drinking." In so many words, they are looking for someone to give them permission to drink.
Assuming your answer because you've already done your test in a safe environment. You will be with friends so you have a safety net that hopefully you will not need. It's easy to sit and drink and not realize you are over doing, so get up and walk around frequently to ensure you are OK.
A reason you are cautioned from drinking early is, in addition to avoiding empty calories, is transfer addiction. Early post-op food is not as available as comfort or a coping mechanism and other things can easily fill the gap. Be careful.
Enjoy your night out.
Tek

"Weight loss surgery makes good relationships better and bad relationships worse."
This can apply to the relationship we have with ourselves.
This all happened pretty quickly, maybe all you need is a little time to get used to you. Do you have someone you can talk with about this? Perhaps a couple sessions with a therapist might help.
Ending a relationship can throw us off balance and cause us to question ourselves. To me it always seems like something get through, though I guess it can be a time of self discovery. I'm too old for self discovery!
Good luck,
Tek

"Weight loss surgery makes good relationships better and bad relationships worse."
This can apply to the relationship we have with ourselves.
This all happened pretty quickly, maybe all you need is a little time to get used to you. Do you have someone you can talk with about this? Perhaps a couple sessions with a therapist might help.
Ending a relationship can throw us off balance and cause us to question ourselves. To me it always seems like something get through, though I guess it can be a time of self discovery. I'm too old for self discovery!
Good luck,
Tek

"Weight loss surgery makes good relationships better and bad relationships worse."
This can apply to the relationship we have with ourselves.
This all happened pretty quickly, maybe all you need is a little time to get used to you. Do you have someone you can talk with about this? Perhaps a couple sessions with a therapist might help.
Ending a relationship can throw us off balance and cause us to question ourselves. To me it always seems like something get through, though I guess it can be a time of self discovery. I'm too old for self discovery!
Good luck,
Tek

"Weight loss surgery makes good relationships better and bad relationships worse."
This can apply to the relationship we have with ourselves.
This all happened pretty quickly, maybe all you need is a little time to get used to you. Do you have someone you can talk with about this? Perhaps a couple sessions with a therapist might help.
Ending a relationship can throw us off balance and cause us to question ourselves. To me it always seems like something get through, though I guess it can be a time of self discovery. I'm too old for self discovery!
Good luck,
Tek

"Weight loss surgery makes good relationships better and bad relationships worse."
This can apply to the relationship we have with ourselves.
This all happened pretty quickly, maybe all you need is a little time to get used to you. Do you have someone you can talk with about this? Perhaps a couple sessions with a therapist might help.
Ending a relationship can throw us off balance and cause us to question ourselves. To me it always seems like something get through, though I guess it can be a time of self discovery. I'm too old for self discovery!
Good luck,
Tek

"Weight loss surgery makes good relationships better and bad relationships worse."
This can apply to the relationship we have with ourselves.
This all happened pretty quickly, maybe all you need is a little time to get used to you. Do you have someone you can talk with about this? Perhaps a couple sessions with a therapist might help.
Ending a relationship can throw us off balance and cause us to question ourselves. To me it always seems like something get through, though I guess it can be a time of self discovery. I'm too old for self discovery!
Good luck,
Tek

"Weight loss surgery makes good relationships better and bad relationships worse."
This can apply to the relationship we have with ourselves.
This all happened pretty quickly, maybe all you need is a little time to get used to you. Do you have someone you can talk with about this? Perhaps a couple sessions with a therapist might help.
Ending a relationship can throw us off balance and cause us to question ourselves. To me it always seems like something get through, though I guess it can be a time of self discovery. I'm too old for self discovery!
Good luck,
Tek

Maybe they were intended to be nightshirts? Well, they are now.
Tek

Maybe they were intended to be nightshirts? Well, they are now.
Tek

I'm about the same amount of time since my bypass. I don't recall having an intollerance to almost all foods for extended periods. But for a few days or a week, sure.
I don't think you should rule out the experience of anyone based on years post-op because there are people here that know more about weight loss surgeries than you and I. Heck, they give many surgeons a run for their money. Some of us research the stuffing out of weight loss surgeries before we even see a surgeon.
Could you fill us in on what's going on? How does your intollerance work? Does it prevent you from swallowing, or does your food come back up? How long after eating? Anything else change during this period?
Your previous issues could also provide insight into your current issues. Also, what does your medical team say?
Tons of knowledge and experience is on the edge of their seats waiting to help.
Tek

I'm about the same amount of time since my bypass. I don't recall having an intollerance to almost all foods for extended periods. But for a few days or a week, sure.
I don't think you should rule out the experience of anyone based on years post-op because there are people here that know more about weight loss surgeries than you and I. Heck, they give many surgeons a run for their money. Some of us research the stuffing out of weight loss surgeries before we even see a surgeon.
Could you fill us in on what's going on? How does your intollerance work? Does it prevent you from swallowing, or does your food come back up? How long after eating? Anything else change during this period?
Your previous issues could also provide insight into your current issues. Also, what does your medical team say?
Tons of knowledge and experience is on the edge of their seats waiting to help.
Tek

I never* used them. My plan called for 3 meals per day, each containing 20+ grams of Protein through meat (usually). Days 1 - 30 post-op were the same plan pureed. Day 31 forward not pureed any longer.
How much protein, of what sort, and how often, is very much a personal decision in consultation with your medical team.
Good luck,
Tek

* Never in normal times. However, when I was binge running, ramping up for marathons, my plan increased from 3 meals per day, to 4, then 5, then 6, then 6 + a Protein Drink. I fealt like I was eating all day long. I hated it.

Be careful of those whims!
At about 18 months post-op I was walking consistently. I felt that with the right push off that I could fly. We generally went down to the strip and called it people watching. One day we didn't want to go to the strip so we went to a local park that had a walking/running course. On a whim [There it is, all innocent] I ran the last hundred yards and it felt good. I decided to see if I could complete a C25K (Couch to 5K) program, and lo! in no time I could run 5K.
I never ran an official 5K but I did increase my distance. Eventually I was up to 10k. Then 15k. Then I decided to keep track of such things in miles. Then 10 miles, then 13.2 (yes, the Garmin said it so it must be true). I still had not participated in any official events. About this time I got it in my silly little head to run a marathon. I started training for a marathon.
Training was progressing well, when I had a business trip in SoCal. I saw there was a marathon in Long Beach that weekend, which wasn't far from where I was. My long training runs were up to 16 miles, so I thought it would be cool to use it as training run and have my spouse pick me up at around mile 16. To save y'all from an exciting mile by mile story, it should be obvious by now that I completed my first official race, the Long Beach Marathon.
I ran 5 marathons which including one in San Francisco where I got to run across the Golden Gate bridge (twice).
500+ pounds previously this was not even a passing thought.
All on a whim.
Good luck,
Tek

I'm about the same amount of time since my bypass. I don't recall having an intollerance to almost all foods for extended periods. But for a few days or a week, sure.
I don't think you should rule out the experience of anyone based on years post-op because there are people here that know more about weight loss surgeries than you and I. Heck, they give many surgeons a run for their money. Some of us research the stuffing out of weight loss surgeries before we even see a surgeon.
Could you fill us in on what's going on? How does your intollerance work? Does it prevent you from swallowing, or does your food come back up? How long after eating? Anything else change during this period?
Your previous issues could also provide insight into your current issues. Also, what does your medical team say?
Tons of knowledge and experience is on the edge of their seats waiting to help.
Tek

I'm about the same amount of time since my bypass. I don't recall having an intollerance to almost all foods for extended periods. But for a few days or a week, sure.
I don't think you should rule out the experience of anyone based on years post-op because there are people here that know more about weight loss surgeries than you and I. Heck, they give many surgeons a run for their money. Some of us research the stuffing out of weight loss surgeries before we even see a surgeon.
Could you fill us in on what's going on? How does your intollerance work? Does it prevent you from swallowing, or does your food come back up? How long after eating? Anything else change during this period?
Your previous issues could also provide insight into your current issues. Also, what does your medical team say?
Tons of knowledge and experience is on the edge of their seats waiting to help.
Tek

I'm about the same amount of time since my bypass. I don't recall having an intollerance to almost all foods for extended periods. But for a few days or a week, sure.
I don't think you should rule out the experience of anyone based on years post-op because there are people here that know more about weight loss surgeries than you and I. Heck, they give many surgeons a run for their money. Some of us research the stuffing out of weight loss surgeries before we even see a surgeon.
Could you fill us in on what's going on? How does your intollerance work? Does it prevent you from swallowing, or does your food come back up? How long after eating? Anything else change during this period?
Your previous issues could also provide insight into your current issues. Also, what does your medical team say?
Tons of knowledge and experience is on the edge of their seats waiting to help.
Tek

I'm about the same amount of time since my bypass. I don't recall having an intollerance to almost all foods for extended periods. But for a few days or a week, sure.
I don't think you should rule out the experience of anyone based on years post-op because there are people here that know more about weight loss surgeries than you and I. Heck, they give many surgeons a run for their money. Some of us research the stuffing out of weight loss surgeries before we even see a surgeon.
Could you fill us in on what's going on? How does your intollerance work? Does it prevent you from swallowing, or does your food come back up? How long after eating? Anything else change during this period?
Your previous issues could also provide insight into your current issues. Also, what does your medical team say?
Tons of knowledge and experience is on the edge of their seats waiting to help.
Tek

Be careful of those whims!
At about 18 months post-op I was walking consistently. I felt that with the right push off that I could fly. We generally went down to the strip and called it people watching. One day we didn't want to go to the strip so we went to a local park that had a walking/running course. On a whim [There it is, all innocent] I ran the last hundred yards and it felt good. I decided to see if I could complete a C25K (Couch to 5K) program, and lo! in no time I could run 5K.
I never ran an official 5K but I did increase my distance. Eventually I was up to 10k. Then 15k. Then I decided to keep track of such things in miles. Then 10 miles, then 13.2 (yes, the Garmin said it so it must be true). I still had not participated in any official events. About this time I got it in my silly little head to run a marathon. I started training for a marathon.
Training was progressing well, when I had a business trip in SoCal. I saw there was a marathon in Long Beach that weekend, which wasn't far from where I was. My long training runs were up to 16 miles, so I thought it would be cool to use it as training run and have my spouse pick me up at around mile 16. To save y'all from an exciting mile by mile story, it should be obvious by now that I completed my first official race, the Long Beach Marathon.
I ran 5 marathons which including one in San Francisco where I got to run across the Golden Gate bridge (twice).
500+ pounds previously this was not even a passing thought.
All on a whim.
Good luck,
Tek