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For me personally, Boston Stoker coffee always seem to go right through me. I can't even finish my second cup before I have to head to the bathroom. Doesn't matter the flavor or roast, but definitely the brand. That is the only coffee I tend to avoid for physical reasons. I don't like Starbucks anything since they use Sumatran Beans and they just have too much of an earthy flavor. I prefer the "fruity" beans like real kona. Dunkin Donuts coffee is a great bean in my opinion and it is available reasonably priced at any grocery store around here. Maxwell House is too astringent to me, but Folgers is a fine everyday coffee IMO.
As for the caffeine levels, I honestly don't pay attention to it since it doesn't appear to be a problem for me. I take my regular supplements with Water after I am done with coffee in the morning around 10:30. I'm back to coffee by 4 though until about 7 or 8.

It's interesting how every surgeon is different in what's allowed/not allowed.

Since I am at least a pot & a half a day drinker of coffee, and a 5 year vet, I have some experience.
When talking coffee, we all say coffee but we don't all mean the same thing. Coffee to me is regular coffee with cream. My uncle says coffee and it means black. My coworker says coffee and it is this whipped cream covered sundae in a huge cup with enough sugar to kill a diabetic.
The first thing to debunk is that coffee is diuretic. Caffeine is diuretic yes, but the amount of liquid present in a cup of coffee is more than enough to offset that. It will not dehydrate you.
When coffee is said to be acidic, that is actually in reference to the flavor; not the pH level. Our own saliva is more acidic than coffee and our stomach is far more acidic than that. And our stomach is producing hydrochloric acid all the time. Like, as soon as they close the stomach acid is back in production.
https://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-deal-with-acid-in-coffee-224482
The only things to truly be cognizant of is that caffeine, regardless of its source, attaches to the same receptors that Vitamin D and Calcium bond to. So if you take supplements for those, don't take them with coffee. The other thing is that coffee can stimulate the bowels. Some people have always been like this, a good strong cup can send me to the bathroom relatively quick. That was before surgery and still happens today. Some people never had that issue before and now they do. It's not uncommon.

re: caffeine - I think some (probably most) surgeons think it's hard on healing stomachs (the acid in coffee is, too). Be glad you only have to wait 30 days - I had to wait six months! (although some surgeons let you drink it right away, so there doesn't seem to be a consensus on this...)

Ok, I have a love / hate relationship with coffee. Either I get the extreme jitters or I am just sick (dumping) when drinking coffee. I seem to tolerate Starbucks SF vanilla Latte or McDonalds SF vanilla Latte's (nonfat version). I can brew my own Dark Roast coffee, but this also gives me the jitters. A coffee expert told me that the darker the roast the lower the acid, which totally threw me off until it was explained that the darker the roast the more time the bean is roasted and the more acid is extracted from the bean. I love coffee but when I am out and not near a bathroom its risky. Some may relate...LOL

most of Starbuck's coffees are way too acidic for me, but I may have never tried the Decaf that the above poster mentioned.
we have a local chain that has coffee I can tolerate, but that's not going to help you. They do sell some low-acid coffees on Amazon. Some large grocery stores may carry them as well. Also, the darker roasts tend to be less acidic than lighter roasts, for some reason.

I couldn’t tolerate coffee for a month after my surgery, it was a very sad month

Right after my surgery I got a Decaf Pike's Place from Starbucks that was drinkable. All the others I tried tasted like a$$. Don't even think about trying the Kroger's Private Selection Decaf. TOTALLY undrinkable!

Congratulations on the 200 pound weight loss!

Thank you. I'm actually curious now why some doctors tell you to stay away from certain things and other doctors don't. Now I'm all kinds of confused.

I am sure that the caffeine had nothing to do with the bleeding. It was probably related to poor healing or just plain bad luck.

Did the physicians in the hospital offer any clue to what caused the bleeding?
My surgeon doesn't prohibit caffeine, rather says a small amount is okay. I would definitely get a clarification from your surgery team and try to find out if caffeine was the culprit.
Sorry you had to go through that! I know it must have been very scary for you and quite perplexing since you had followed all post op rules.

I'm sorry about your surgical complications, but I'm not so sure it was caused by the caffeine. It could have just been one of those unfortunate things. My doctor didn't prohibit or limit my caffeine post-op at any point.

Every surgeon has different restrictions/requirements. From nearly day one I’ve had a cold brew every morning as well as 2-3 cups of caffeinated tea each day. My surgeon has no problem with this as long as I also drink my Water each day. The caffeine is highly unlikely to have been the source of your bleeding. I’m glad you’re on the mend now!

Start my talking to them. If it were ME, I'd probably say something like, "How much caffeine I allowed to have after surgery?" And "What kinds of problems could I have with caffeine after surgery?" Kind of innocent like. Then if they said "none" they will have to answer why they required you to use a product that they knew was detrimental to your success. I think I might also have the recorder going. (I dont know about Ohio, but in AZ conversations can be recorded without two person consent.) It might just come in handy if the situation turns into a "he said, she said" thing.
I'm pretty certain that physicians are not allowed kickbacks from products or services, and this kind of smacks of that. My surgeon gave me a list of the supplements I needed to take - Vitamins and Protein shakes/powders. They had them in the office, but they gave me a comparison list of at least a dozen acceptable Protein Shakes and I chose for myself which brand I would use.

Wow, thank you for this.
I feel like a big weight has been lifted off me, thank you.

I'm starting to think given the molasses-slow rate my weight is coming off, I probably won't even need plastics given loose skin is affiliated with rapid weight loss. #slowloser

Wow, thank you for this.
I feel like a big weight has been lifted off me, thank you.

I understand the temptation and actually feeling that way..let's see you are 16 days out from surgery, is that correct?
I was...a bit stunned during my first month that barely anything happened (my DEFINITE interpretation at the time and the first 2 weeks weight loss was from all I had been given to understand and yes..comparing myself against others....was so so little.
I called my surgeon's office and talked to him and the nutritionist. They told me repeatedly something I had not seen here before (not that it might not have been said many times by others) but they told me DESPITE what I have found on many forums, they have done this for well more than a decade and that directly post-op, whether you were on IV fluids for 1 day, 2 days or more..or even NONE, that MANY people do not start hitting their body's full potential for weight loss until after they have HEALED which would be 6 weeks for RNY - unsure what it is for sleeve..maybe the same.
I, however, felt after haunting WLS forums for 3 years PRIOR to surgery, that while I knew my doctor was very good, they simply HAD TO BE WRONG....I mean...I read how many hundreds of post of all of these people losing at LEAST 10 lbs a month. I thought I was 'oh so careful' to only compare my weight loss against other women...around the same age...and who had additional metabolic challenges (whether it be from medications, illnesses, PCOS, thyroid, etc.).....so I thought sensibly...I'm not comparing myself against a 'young man' or even a young woman.
I finally quit looking at some of the posts, I sought out my surgery siblings more..the ones who had a slightly slower weight loss...I read some of the threads from the vets and basically white-knuckled my way thru month 1, month 2.
Flash forward to now...6 months out as of 3 days ago and I started posting on this thread. In working with some of the vets when I posted here, we have looked at my total weight loss since surgery and then averaged it out and my monthly weight loss at SIX MONTHS is 12.6 lbs a month! If you had told me in Months 1 or 2...like my poor doctor tried to tell me...that things would WORK THEMSELVES out if I just stuck to it, I'd be leery...and that indeed was what I was told. Ironically in week 8, 2 weeks after 'you are healed by now' date, my weight loss kicked up higher.
Some of my fellow siblings or ppl who had surgery in the late summer, early fall...the ones who lost a lot in month 1, oh how i remember that month, are starting to slow down a bit (nothing to be worried about)...some are now hitting 10 lbs a month consistently (and hey, I literally AM losing roughly 12 lbs a month and that is NOT with just averaging).
Please hang in there...be kind to yourself and your body...it is literally still healing. The surgery is a big one and your body has been shaken up. You are a rockstar with the working out! I truly admire that. If you hang in there, the weight will come off and it won't remain in single digits.
If it helps, even though you are on liquids, post what you are drinking, overall calories, etc. but again, the first month after surgery is really really rough on your body even if you feel 'ok'. My calories for the first month were 450 or less..some days 100, some days 200-250. Your body has to settle itself out so some of us do not see that gigantic loss in the first month and we think it is for nothing. It WILL COME OFF. With your level of exercise, and knowing what month 1 is like...I promise it WILL COME OFF if you are working your plan.

Ugh. Well, I'm definitely starting to identify as a slow loser.
I'm pissed. I went through all that and after two weeks of only liquids, I only lost a few pounds. I don't understand. I'm compliant, I'm exercising at least one hour every day on the treadmill and I'm drinking way more than 64 ounces of Water a day.
It isn't fair. I'm only two weeks and one day out but I'm already thinking all this was for nothing.

You were right. I took out the pepper and nothing bothered me today. Thanks!

Hi! I haven't heard back from the doctor yet. I altered my pureed recipes today and that seemed to do the trick. At this point, the only frustration I'm having now is I'm not really losing any weight yet. I managed to lose some the first week and a half but now it seems I'm stuck. I hadn't weighed myself since last Thursday at my first post-op follow-up. Today I did and I'm very sad to see only 1 pound gone.

You were right. I took out the pepper and nothing bothered me today. Thanks!

So I started the pureed foods stage today and I swear everything went to hell. I've been experiencing pain and burning after eating and can't seem to figure out why. I'm following the instructions on how to puree and am not eating anything with chunks. I'm taking my time between bites and am using my SWLC's (surgical weight loss center) recommended recipes in addition to waiting 30 min. before and after I eat before drinking Water again. Is this normal? Is it because it's a new stage? I don't know. I just know today sucked big time.
I left a voicemail with the SWLC. Has anyone else ever experienced this with the pureed stage?

My best advice would be to exercise as soon as you can, adding in toning and strengthening. Building muscle while losing fat will help. It’s not going to totally prevent it, but it helps.


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