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@sunshinetinks((hugs)) It's only natural hon!! You're gonna be a rock star! Just ask for plenty of pain meds. They won't send you home without that being controlled. I'm so excited for you!!! Keep your mind and hands busy today!!! @TheNewMrsR Good luck tomorrow! You and Tinks are surgery twins!!! Can't wait to hear back from each of you. Way to kick off November! All Saints Day. It's when I had my double mast. It's a good day for surgery.

How's everyone doing? Happy Halloweeny!!! Tomorrow's the start of "our month!" Who's on liquids right now?

You have to sign All. The. Things. pre-surgery. All. The. Things. Then after having the crap scared out of you, pray that you will wake up with all your fingers and toes and no blood transfusions.

I swear, I'm having hair brained schemes of grabbing my BIL who is so skinny, and pulling him to the potty with with a plastic hat. Then I'd grab an enema bag, collander, coffee filter, goggles, noseplug, shoulder length gloves and go to town! *time to take over the world, Pinky*

I do like the chocolate chewy bites. I eat 1 per nite with 4 almonds as my bedtime snack.

Here's the study I read.

Sadly, we often out-grow our friends. My mom always said that we were known by the company we keep. Frankly, if your friends were partiers and have bad eating/drinking habits, it would be like a junkie in recovery still hanging with the junkie friends. Eventually sh*t will happen and you'll end up getting stoned again. So maybe this is a sign to you that it's time to get new friends. Join a class or classes in fitness related things. Take a painting class or something...do the things you've secretly wanted to, but were too heavy to do. Doesn't make it any easier. ((hugs))

This. It's SO important. I was pressured into having breast reconstruction after my double mastectomy surgery. I really was ambivalent and scared I would end up with mannequin boobs (boobs without nips). Everyone assured me that would not be the case. Well fast forward, 3 EXCRUCIATING (like the most pain evs) surgeries later, I now have stage 2 lymphedema in my left arm, unequal mannequin boobs, a huge divot in the left one where it started to eat itself, tiny spider veins where it started to eat itself and I have chronic neuralgia at my chest wall. 24/7/365 I have a burning stinging pain 360degrees around my chest that's about 8-9 inches wide. It never goes away but sometimes gets worse lol. Happy happy joy joy, right? I also have an unreachable itching on my chest wall that I can't get to cuz the cadaver transplants and lat flap transplants and silicone implants cover them up. It is misery. I have to keep my mind focused to keep from being pissed and depressed about my "lot" in life. But then I have to remember that no one could have predicted this. The healers were trying to give me some sense of normalcy after a late stage breast cancer. Mine was a complication and not the general rule. But it's a LOT of daily headwork. LOTs. The same thing could happen with this surgery. It's elective also. You have to be at the point where you're willing to throw the dice and pray/hope for great outcomes. It took me 2 years to be willing to risk it again with this surgery. I'm risking adding another 10 inches to my "sphere of pain." *sigh*

Yeah, very interesting article. I'd read about this study in mice and they were postulating if you could do transfers from skinny patients into obese subjects and have remediation of the obesity. Love this poopie talk! @Half-TumPraying that the avo thing is temporary until your tummy gets robust again. I think it maybe could be like eggs? My nut cautioned me to only eat avos that are very soft? Don't know if that might be an issue--maybe it's the fiber in more firm ones?

Wow! Congrats to all of you! I will have 2 weeks of liquids after surgery. *gulp* *sob* hehe...livin' the dream, folks! Livin' the dream!

This is the original cauli crust recipe from Cleochatra. Then she was ripped off a million times. I sometimes add about 1/4c of almond flour and adjust for moistness if necessar with egg whites. (Bob's Red Mill).

@TammyAMaking the cauli crust pizza is dead easy and tastes really delish--not like bonafide Italian pizza crust--but still very good PDS (pizza delivery system). Don't buy the cauli crust from the frozen food. TONS of flour carbs in it.

Crap, I forgot her protein levels in her bloodwork were low. I do know she works out a lot, too.

@Berry78I'm not pullin this stuff out of thin air hon. Nor basing the information on myself. These guys are the real deal doctors who eat, breath, and live sports science. Through their research, they say that you need about 0.8 to 1.0g protein per "dew weight" in kg (LBM) if you are athletic and work out to a high extent. (If I remember correctly from the book--it's been a long time.) The book is The Art and Science of Low Carb Performance. Dr. Stephen Phinney and Dr. Jeff Volek are both elite athletes and still keep their carbs below 100g daily. They both eat a butt load of veggies. Dr. Phinney is even an organic gardener. Yes, our GB anatomy that has malabsorption may mean we can eat more protein, but my surgeon says they are finding that the malabsorption is less then they thought, earlier than they thought...which brings me back to not seeing where any female that isn't DS, unless they are an elite athlete or they have a **** ton of LMB, needs more than 100g of protein per day. Even if their doc is telling them this...lots of docs have the whole nutrition stuff wrong.

Wow! I'd smell like cat pee all day, every day. You=Lucky

You're gonna have to raise your fat content to get to 1500cals. IMHO unless a woman is DS or is a weight lifter, there is no way you should be eating 120g protein and def. not 187g. I think @Berry78 has it right, that the nut is talking about plate composition. No way you should be eating 120g carbs either. The only other choice is fat--and that would be do-able with very little effort. I would think you would be able to tolerate it post GB cuz we're not talking about gobs of it. Most will come from internal fats present in food sources. 86g Protein x 4cals = 344cals 75g Carbs x 4cals = 300cals 95g Fat x 9cals =855cals Totals 1499cals Here's a sample day that looks quite a lot like my 1500cal days only, I have a little less protein and a few more veggie carbs. This menu is giving you a little more protein, and a few less carbs than the goals I said above. The premier protein drinks are for coffee creamers; hot coffee in the morning, and iced coffee in the afternoon:

I had so much fun reading all the responses in the first thread and hope you guys will hop in again on this one. The goal of this game is to build your day of protein so that you limit or eliminate as many protein drinks/bars/supplements as possible and obtain most of your protein from real food. Use the serving size guides and protein goals so they correlate to where you are presently. For example: I'm gonna pretend that I'm post WLS by 3 weeks. At 3 weeks I'm at the soft solids. My daily protein goal is 74g for my height. My portion size is 2oz Protein/meal; 1oz Protein/snack. I'm to have 3 meals and 1-2 snacks daily. (Because I'm so close to surgery, I'm sure I will be relying very heavily still on protein supplements and will also probably need 3 meals + 3 snacks per day...) OK, let's play!

OMG @jess9395 God bless you! You just made my day! I don't even like Benefiber! I've been asking for months about psyllium fiber (my personal crush)! I didn't think we could use it post-op! Thah crahps ah sayuved!!!!! tYTYTYTYTYTTY!!!

This is only hypothetical right now. I would plan on getting between 20-30g of net carbs per day. They will obviously fluctuate. I know that I can steadily maintain at that level pre-op (cals around 1200-1500). So I'm gonna cross my fingers that by reducing my calories/fats to the level that I'm between 600-800cals/day and protein around 74g daily, carbs between 20g-30g net with a goal of 20g of fiber per day, that I will be able to lose weight...but it's very theoretical right now. I plan on getting my fiber from benefiber, greens blended into protein smoothies, nuts/seeds, a tiny bit from berries maybe even an occasional ounce or two of GS apple with peel blended into my protein smoothie. But this might be pie-in-the-sky planning. I know a lot of ketoneers and low carbers don't place much stock in fiber, but being post-meno 53+ female, I found by trial and error that my keto lifestyle/weight loss did better with slightly lower fat, and slightly higher fiber/leafy greens. Think it may be tied to thyroid function, the lower I went on carbs, the slower my thyroid became.

Ok, you start that one!

BTW, should I start a new thread and we play another round of How I Get My Protein?

@Berry78 Oh Derp! I missed that. Thanks girlie!! Glad y'all got it figured out and her body's working like it needs to. That's a nice issue to have, right?

Good god, perfect strangers would stop me on the street and ask me how I was doing with my chemo! LOL. It doesn't bother me, personally. I just go about life. It's short. I don't worry about whether people try to get in my business or not. I guess people have a lot of spare time...so I just try to ignore this and live an abundant life.

Yes, I think these blogs are mainly for our internal use--yet are open to the public. IMHO about not making changes pre-surg. I think you might look at being in rebellion and ask yourself about that. Because one thing I do know: You said, "I'm still going to WANT to eat the way I do now. But I won't have the luxury of ever doing so again." I bolded and italicized your logic error. You WILL, absolutely WILL, be able to eat everything you eat pre-op. Many go on to eat nearly as much as they did pre-surg. You can TOTALLY and absolutely fu*k yourself up believing the surgery will make things different. People can and do eat around their surgery every day. And the sad thing is that all the crap, is slider food that can go through your new anatomy very easily and quickly--without restriction. Many don't experience dumping or any ill-consequence of making poor food choices--except the scale will begin reversing directions. This problem (gaining weight after surgery) intensifies every month out from surgery. So around the 6mo time, things get real. At 1 year, even harder to continue losing, without having true dedication and a cunning plan. At 18mos even harder. By 3 years (the vets call this the witching year), you are pretty much bound to your plan if you want to have a hope of not regaining. So please, please, do yourself a favor and begin the head work now. Get a therapist. Start working with someone who is well-versed in bariatrics. Your surgeon and nut should be able to put you in touch with someone. Just my 2 cents from another pre-surg noob who is working my ass off to change my head and actions/emotions BEFORE I forever alter my anatomy, so that I can hopefully take as big of an advantage as possible from the surgery. ((hugs))

@Rainbow_Warrior Absolutely! Doesn't everyone?