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16 minutes ago, t1018ross said:

My NUT told me to count it as 17 grams of Protein, not 30, but that otherwise it was ok to use. I've been struggling with finding a Protein Shake I can tolerate. GENEPRO is the first one I've found that works for me.

That's a reasonable way of looking at it. Although it's likely less than 17g of protein (it list 58 calories, so you're probably talking about 14g of protein a serving maybe 13)

Which makes GENEPRO incredibly overpriced as well as being disingeous. I still think youre better off finding a protein maker who is more honest and upfront , but if you're adamant on it I think it's OK as long as you're looking at it the way you are.

I will speak to my surgeons about this soon, but how do you take pills that need to be taken with food? Do you take them immediately before eating? Immediately after? Halfway through a meal?

Because you're not supposed to drink after a meal, and not supposed to take the pills on an empty stomach (right before)

So I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this.

I doubt it makes much of a difference, but if I'm taking pills multiple times a day everyday, I'd rather do things as best as I can

Protein pills aren't really a thing

I suggest looking into protein powder recipes (or eating more lean mean)

My personal favorites is protein pudding, protein mug cakes, or protein coffee.

If you like coffee or lattes it's very easy to make a protein concoction like that

16 minutes ago, RickM said:

While it may not have yet been proven that it is a scam, it fits the classic profile of a nutrition supplement scam - it is full of weasel words - just what is "equivalent" Protein? - it promises miracles - 30 g of Protein in only 15g of product, and with fewer calories than 30 g of protein would have - no one really knows what it is, and they aren't telling. If it really was a breakthrough, they could patent it, licence it to others to produce for a fee, and offer their own as the "original" and a higher price. But since they don't......it's just a matter of faith, and marketing.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

The stuff may be benign, and not particularly harmful (except maybe to your wallet) to their normal target demographic of people on a typical American diet (which is already protein rich) who are convinced that they need more protein, but to us bariatric post-ops who are struggling to get in a minimum functional amount of protein, it can be bad news.

It's not as complicated as it seems.

It's DEFINITELY dishonest and a bit of a scam, but likely a decent protein supplement otherwise.

If you look at the calories on the label and divide it by 4 that's roughly how many Grams of Protein is in a serving, it may be slightly less.

Their claims are 100% pure horseshit and for that reason alone people shouldn't buy their product. But if someone absolutely is in love with it and doesn't want to buy alternative products I would follow my rule above dividing calories by 4 and assume that's roughly how much protein is in a serving based on normal measurements that people use and know that you're getting ripped off by a shady company but the product is otherwise probably an OK protein product.

ON-Q pumps are an old dying thing. They're often filled with Naropin. They work fine, but now there is Exparel. Which basically works the same as an ON-Q pump, but instead of a giant ball hanging out of your abdomen by ON-Q catheters that you have to carry around. They just inject the exparel into you and it works for 48 to 72 hours just like the ON-Q without all the crap sticking out of and attached to you.

We used to use on-qs for every bariatric case and many other cases, now they're almost completely extinct from our hospital. And ON-QS have quite a reputation for falling out and getting removed prematurely. They sometimes would even fall out before patients got out of the operating room

4 minutes ago, sleevemebaby7781 said:

If only I knew this in the morning.... grrrr...

Sent from my SM-G892U using BariatricPal mobile app

Call up and tell them you werent feeling well this morning, and you didnt have anything to eat or drink today or last night and that you dont think that weight accurately represents your true weight and you would like to weigh yourself again now that you ate and feel better. They SHOULD let you come back in and reweigh yourself.

Ive personally seen this occur before

2 minutes ago, abefroman329 said:

I ate a quarter of a doughnut about 10 days out and immediately threw it back up. That was the last experiment for me. I’m six months out and can eat anything in small amounts, hamburgers, fried chicken, pizza, you name it. It’ll get here soon enough, I promise. But you won’t get here at all if you cheat.

I was eating hamburgers almost everyday at around 8-10 weeks out. Of course my version of a hamburger was 1/6th of a pound of 93% lean ground beef on a low carb/low calorie high Fiber pita with a heavy dose of salt pepper ketchup.

If you make a healthy version of anything you can have it sooner (and more often) than later

7 minutes ago, sillykitty said:

Actually the effectiveness of silicone for reducing scaring has been well studied and proven,

http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/25/do-over-the-counter-scar-treatments-really-work/

Its supported with data, but far from proven.

But since I dont feel like arguing I will agree its feasible than other options and probably one of the better ways to spend youre money if youre adamant on doing something.

Im not going to encourage you to experiment. But rather if you do experiment, be smart about it.

I see way too many posts on here of people doing idiotic things like experimenting with fried chicken or pizza at 2 weeks out. You absolutely dont want to be one of those people.

However if you do decide you want to try to push the limits, be smart and do your homework. For example I was craving eggs early on after surgery, but according to my doctors instructions no eggs until week 4 or something. However I saw tons of people on here whose doctors allowed them soft scrambled eggs much earlier and tolerated fine. So I did my "research" and "experimented" making sure to eat only a small amount of eggs and eating them VERY slow.

I also did the same thing with PB2 Peanut Butter powder as well (adding it to smoothies, pudding, yogurt etc). These things were outside of my doctors instructions, but I did it in a slow well thought out way that wouldnt cause me distress.

So basically IF you are going to be a rebel. Do it in a matter where you think research and behave in an overly cautious matter. Its a far better option than being one of those people who trys to make blended pizza 3 days out or something else ridiculous.

What I started doing recently

Is mixing a full vanilla Premier Protein with a half scoop of the Syntrax Nectar/Lattes and maybe a tablespoon of splenda or two. If I want a little more coffee ill add some cold brew concentrate to it

This bumps it up to roughly 200-210 calories and 45 g of Protein. Plus it gives it a better flavor (I think) and is substantially more filling.

I also find mixing Protein Powder with premier shakes is much better than mixing it with Water (which tastes gross) or milk (which tastes great but has mediocre macros)

Of course im also trying to substantially increase my protein intake to consistently get it over 1g per pound of body weight.

My scars are basically non existent at 7 months

Although they were never bad

If you have scars its likely a combo of your genetics and your skin color. And theres likely very little you can do about it

Save your money, dont buy any magic Beans

On 6/16/2018 at 9:05 PM, BrookeR said:

Where do you buy your whey isolate

If generally I wait for GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, or bodybuilding.com to have sales and promo codes and buy a bunch then.

They frequently have 20 to 25% off coupons that stack with other sales (buy one get one half off)

I believe I recently bought some at GNC with a 20% coupon that stacked with their buy 1 get one half off sale.

If I need something in a pinch I'll pay full price from anywhere, but generally I load up during the big sales as they are very frequent.

The GNC sale is probably still running (make sure to find the promo code for 20% off if you use it) , and all of them will likely have 4th of July sales soon

On 6/10/2018 at 1:14 PM, BrookeR said:

I am 5 days post op and these Protein Shakes are not cutting it!!!! I want something of some substance even if it is Peanut Butter or cottage cheese! I am so tired of drinking sweet things and am actually hungry. Surely I am not the only one, right?!

I didnt read through the whole thread but I was CRAVING Peanut Butter after surgery and I absolutely love it.

So basically around a week postop I stopped drinking shakes and started making peanut butter Protein pudding.

sugar free fat free vanilla pudding, skim milk (lactose free because im lactose intolerant), vanilla whey protein (lactose free because above) and pb 2 peanut butter powder.

I literally ate this stuff all day every day. It was amazing at the time, but after a few weeks of it I got so sick of it I couldnt eat it since.

But it got me through the early times extremely well

If you dont want to drink Protein

I recommend looking at protein pudding, protein fluff, protein icecream, protein mugcakes, or just easy to eat foods (scrambeled eggs eggwhites etc).

I think cutesey weird products (ie gummies) arent that sustainable long term. Plus the above recipes are usually quite tastey cost effective and great protein sources

My weight loss is bizarre. Im not really trying to lose anymore (ok maybe a tiny bit) but it seems like one week my weight goes up like 4-6 pounds and the next it goes down like 8-9

Its consistently decreasing and im doing all the normal stuff weighing wise (same time clothes etc etc)

Im also getting near the point where I think it could be detrimental if I lose too much weight. I got rid of all forms of running, and only lift weights and occasionally swim.

Also starting to plan out probably having the abdomen tightened up when I reach my one year surgery anniversary. Its not really necessary, but I think it would be beneficial and self motivating. Especially since it drives me crazy that I can see most of my ribs, but my stomach looks a little floppy.

Start saving up for plastic surgery is the best thing you can do early for loose skin.

And maybe researching plastic surgeons and asking your surgical team where they typically refer their patients

One of my new treats has been expresso/cold brew coffee with Premier Protein, Splenda, and sugar free Syrup

On 6/3/2018 at 8:46 PM, Tealael said:

Anyone have reccs on airfryer brands?

Just check slickdeals.net and hunt for one to go on a GOOD sale and make sure it's the size and features you want.

Odds are they are all the same ****

8 hours ago, HopefullXOXOXO said:

Thanks for the heads up. The bottle says two a day so that's all I'll take, at least to start, and see how it goes. I just think it's wonderful that I can get Fiber and a treat all in one.

Heh I'm up to like 12-20 a day

But I will admit I feel much better now that I'm taking ludacris amounts of Fiber

1 hour ago, HopefullXOXOXO said:

I got Vitafusions SF Fiber Well gummies. that's what they have near me. What a great idea! I never would have thought of this or even known about these if not for your post so I really want to thank you. With all the Protein and added Iron, I need the fiber and what a great way to get it!

You will get gassy if you eat too many

And if you go extremely insanely overboard and have have terrible luck you could end up with a food bolus

But overall I found it worth it in my experience

I airfry fish and chicken all the time.

Lean chicken, egg wash, and coconut flour (or almond) is fantastic with a tiny tiny spray of oil

If you're making chicken I STRONGLY suggest you brine it. It tastes awesome and makes it juicy.

I would avoid all the high fat alternatives. While fat isn't bad for you, it's high in calories. And if you're a person with a history of being very fat (cough cough all of us) I would try to keep the Protein high and calories low

vitacost Fiber gummies

I eat way more a day than any normal person should, but it's sugar free and fiber which you can never get enough of.

1 minute ago, Losingit2018 said:

Try Syntrax powder mixed in Fairlife Milk. I suspect this will help you out a lot.

Syntrax is lactose free as is the fairlife (not to mention that it has higher Protein than plain milk) Plus, Syntrax is a better quality of Protein than the premier.

I like the chocolate Truffle and Cookies and Cream best.

Good luck!

If you're talking about syntrax matrix it is most certainly not lactose intolerant, but Syntrax Nectar is.

I'm not sure about the rest of their product lineup

If that's all she said, I think it's pretty clear it was a compliment. Basically saying you don't look super fat.

If she lectured you on it or tried to talk you out of it that's a different story.

I work in a hospital that does thousands of bariatric surgeries a year and it's incredibly common for staff to say wow how's that person qualify or they're not that big. They're not insults, it's people saying they don't think you're fat.

If someone trys talking you out of it or belittles you that's different

It's extremely probable that you're lactose intolerant.

The Protein Powder, Premier Protein, yogurt are all completely filled with lactose. And the tummy issues are a classic symptom.

Not sure why the nutritionist didn't figure this out.

Either buy lactaid pills and take them with your current shakes (I recommend taking at least 3 to start and work your way down if capable)

Or buy lactose free Protein Shakes.

Easy fix for a common issue