katie09/21/2016

For those of you who have negative things to say about "8 inch cleavage" and the like, I feel like this is mean-spirited and sounds a lot like fat shaming. I would think we all have had enough of that and that it wouldn't be tolerated on this site. I don't want to incite more riotous posts (a la tacos and pork chops) but maybe we could all be a little kinder to those who have struggled and are tuning in here for support and advice. *rant over*
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. Omg your fridge is awesome so organized!!!
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Congrats! Onederland is right around the corner!

THIS!
I have a good friend (raised in Australia but has been in Texas a long time) who was raised by very strict parents, as far as eating goes. They NEVER allowed treats at all. Not even birthday cake. No Christmas Cookies. Nothing.
She tells a hilarious story, that when she was 18 she "bought a box of Lucky Charms and never looked back!"
Now this friend has never had a weight problem at all, she is tall, skinny, and gorgeous. BUT you better believe she did not raise her kids that way. She has 3 boys. She taught them healthy eating but also let them cut loose a little bit.
Kids eat at school, eat at friends' homes, go out for fast food with friends, etc. This girl could very well just be going through a normal pre-puberty growth spurt, or it could be something else????

I think it's lovely that you are trying to help your friend. I'm envious - I don't have any friends who are close enough to me or my children to take the time to help with anything.
This may or may not be relevant, but I grew up with parents who had extremely healthy strict eating habits & a very active family (we were at sports every day of the week). To this day, my mom has never even been through a drive thru or never had a sip of soda. Around the time I was maybe 12, I started to resent the strict food routine and I would overeat any junk food I could get my hands on at school through my friends and I started to gain weight quickly because I had never really eaten that sort of food my body just went "wtf?" And I gained weight FAST. My parents had no idea what was going on & I'm close to both of them so this is not resentful.
They were just so strictly healthy they didn't consider for a moment that I would get my hands on rubbish! I went on to develop an eating disorder for the remainder of high school (starving myself) so things kind of swung back the other way.
I'm not in any way offering criticism, I just know that as a tween and then teen who had eating disorders (overeating and then the opposite) we can hide the behavior extremely well from our parents & loved ones. This might be worth considering alongside all the physical and hormonal investigations?
I hope you can all get to the bottom of things. This young lady sounds like she has wonderful support so I am sure you will all figure it out. Goodluck
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Goodluck!!
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I think it's lovely that you are trying to help your friend. I'm envious - I don't have any friends who are close enough to me or my children to take the time to help with anything.
This may or may not be relevant, but I grew up with parents who had extremely healthy strict eating habits & a very active family (we were at sports every day of the week). To this day, my mom has never even been through a drive thru or never had a sip of soda. Around the time I was maybe 12, I started to resent the strict food routine and I would overeat any junk food I could get my hands on at school through my friends and I started to gain weight quickly because I had never really eaten that sort of food my body just went "wtf?" And I gained weight FAST. My parents had no idea what was going on & I'm close to both of them so this is not resentful.
They were just so strictly healthy they didn't consider for a moment that I would get my hands on rubbish! I went on to develop an eating disorder for the remainder of high school (starving myself) so things kind of swung back the other way.
I'm not in any way offering criticism, I just know that as a tween and then teen who had eating disorders (overeating and then the opposite) we can hide the behavior extremely well from our parents & loved ones. This might be worth considering alongside all the physical and hormonal investigations?
I hope you can all get to the bottom of things. This young lady sounds like she has wonderful support so I am sure you will all figure it out. Goodluck
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No - the odds are significantly higher with surgery or no one would get it and insurance companies wouldn't pay for it.

As someone who has been overweight 15 of her almost 23 years of her life... I've tried everything.
Slim 4 life: I lost 40 pounds, but eventually it all came back.
Weight loss meds prescribed by doctor: held steady at a certain weight.
Weight watchers, different sports, dieting, etc. nothing.
I exercise consistently 3-4 days a week.
I'm hoping this is what I need to have and maintain a healthy weight, and more importantly a healthy lifestyle.
Like someone above said, the numbers for people who are able to lose weight and keep it off ON THEIR OWN is slim.
For me this is a last resort. I've tried and had little success with everything else. At this point, I'm ready to move forward.
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Only 5% of people who do it in their own can maintain that loss. Not great odds but maybe you could be one of them. Why haven't you changed your eating habits and exercised before - or if you did - what were the results? I gave up pretending I could do it myself.

Well done on your weightloss! It feels good to see the scale going in the right direction. Yes, I agree that the surgery (and the whole process) is completely worth it!!
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Very excited to jump on the scales this morning and see that I have lost 60 pounds!! I never thought I would reach 60 pounds gone...!!!
7 of those pounds have come off since my surgery last Wednesday & the remainder has been lost since I started my pre-op weightloss in January this year (2016).
My stats are: 5'9 (.5) tall, SW: 271 pounds (Jan 2016) CW: 211 pounds.
I can't wait to break through the 200 pound mark, it's been awhile since I've seen a 1 at the beginning of my weight....I hope it happens soon!
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I think it's lovely that you are trying to help your friend. I'm envious - I don't have any friends who are close enough to me or my children to take the time to help with anything.
This may or may not be relevant, but I grew up with parents who had extremely healthy strict eating habits & a very active family (we were at sports every day of the week). To this day, my mom has never even been through a drive thru or never had a sip of soda. Around the time I was maybe 12, I started to resent the strict food routine and I would overeat any junk food I could get my hands on at school through my friends and I started to gain weight quickly because I had never really eaten that sort of food my body just went "wtf?" And I gained weight FAST. My parents had no idea what was going on & I'm close to both of them so this is not resentful.
They were just so strictly healthy they didn't consider for a moment that I would get my hands on rubbish! I went on to develop an eating disorder for the remainder of high school (starving myself) so things kind of swung back the other way.
I'm not in any way offering criticism, I just know that as a tween and then teen who had eating disorders (overeating and then the opposite) we can hide the behavior extremely well from our parents & loved ones. This might be worth considering alongside all the physical and hormonal investigations?
I hope you can all get to the bottom of things. This young lady sounds like she has wonderful support so I am sure you will all figure it out. Goodluck
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That's wonderful @@katie09/21/2016

Congrats!!! I also started my weight lost journey in January and am a week and a day post op, 55 lbs down since my highest weight of 445. I got to the 300s and I haven't seen that number in almost a year. It's a small goal but I am so happy with it. It just makes me know this surgery wasn't for nothing. Good luck!!!
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Very excited to jump on the scales this morning and see that I have lost 60 pounds!! I never thought I would reach 60 pounds gone...!!!
7 of those pounds have come off since my surgery last Wednesday & the remainder has been lost since I started my pre-op weightloss in January this year (2016).
My stats are: 5'9 (.5) tall, SW: 271 pounds (Jan 2016) CW: 211 pounds.
I can't wait to break through the 200 pound mark, it's been awhile since I've seen a 1 at the beginning of my weight....I hope it happens soon!
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Very excited to jump on the scales this morning and see that I have lost 60 pounds!! I never thought I would reach 60 pounds gone...!!!
7 of those pounds have come off since my surgery last Wednesday & the remainder has been lost since I started my pre-op weightloss in January this year (2016).
My stats are: 5'9 (.5) tall, SW: 271 pounds (Jan 2016) CW: 211 pounds.
I can't wait to break through the 200 pound mark, it's been awhile since I've seen a 1 at the beginning of my weight....I hope it happens soon!
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I think it's lovely that you are trying to help your friend. I'm envious - I don't have any friends who are close enough to me or my children to take the time to help with anything.
This may or may not be relevant, but I grew up with parents who had extremely healthy strict eating habits & a very active family (we were at sports every day of the week). To this day, my mom has never even been through a drive thru or never had a sip of soda. Around the time I was maybe 12, I started to resent the strict food routine and I would overeat any junk food I could get my hands on at school through my friends and I started to gain weight quickly because I had never really eaten that sort of food my body just went "wtf?" And I gained weight FAST. My parents had no idea what was going on & I'm close to both of them so this is not resentful.
They were just so strictly healthy they didn't consider for a moment that I would get my hands on rubbish! I went on to develop an eating disorder for the remainder of high school (starving myself) so things kind of swung back the other way.
I'm not in any way offering criticism, I just know that as a tween and then teen who had eating disorders (overeating and then the opposite) we can hide the behavior extremely well from our parents & loved ones. This might be worth considering alongside all the physical and hormonal investigations?
I hope you can all get to the bottom of things. This young lady sounds like she has wonderful support so I am sure you will all figure it out. Goodluck
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Winston Churchill's exchange with Lady Astor
Winston, your drunk
And you Lady Astor, are ugly...however in the morning I'll be sober.
And at the end of the day, you will be healthy and she will still be ugly. Just saying.
I had the same crap with my ex, I just got to the point where I refused to partisipate in her drama. That is very liberating.
George Bush Sr. was asked by 60 minutes to do a special interview on the eve of his son's invasion of Iraq, and he said "no." And they said "but you don't understand, this is history." He said "well I don't give a rip, I'm going fishing."
When you get to that point, you are really liberated and free.

@@KristenLe lol I could but a reaction is what she wants. I come inside, hubby and I laugh it off, and I go about my day. It's definitely not mature, and it's not an example I would want to set for my children, but she's hopefully leaving soon.
She doesn't know the progress I've made. And it really just hits home with me how yes obesity is a huge problem, but making or trying to make people feel bad about themselves won't do any good.

:eyeroll:
Some trainers aren't even an expert on training just as some NUTs know nothing about nutrition.

It's shocking.

Trainers are such . I told one a few years ago, dude, im. It here to become miss fitness America. I just need to lose weight. They tried that tilapia crap with me too.. I informed him that I do not eat ANY seafood. I'm allergic. But this mother effer just wouldn't accept that. I stood up during the consult and told him to go eff himself and his fish and his "magical muscle building juice" that I can only get from them.
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.... ANYTHING but exercise.
Idiot.
Ok, so the head trainer at my gym was great yesterday. I enjoyed the workout (gosh I'm in bad shape) and decided that using a trainer a few times a month wouldn't be a bad idea. I did exercises I wouldn't have thought to do, and the encouragement helps. He made a good argument for starting strength training immediately even though I believe I have a long way to go on cardio first.
So while we're setting up my contract, I get introduced to the VP over operations, and he asked what my motivation for being there was. I told him I had a bunch of health conditions that piled on last year, and ended up deciding to have the sleeve 6 weeks ago, and I don't want to blow it. I want to make the lifestyle changes needed to make this stick.
Cue the standard crap from him:
* His mother had the lap band and then bypass. She gained all the weight back from the lap band and is only being successful with the bypass because she's finally following his directions.
* He's has "lots" of experience dealing with post-WLS patients.
* If I'd come to him earlier, he could have prevented me from needing the surgery. After all, the people who get the surgery say they've "tried everything" but they really haven't.
* All the surgery does is enforce Portion Control, and that can be done without surgery.
* But since it's already done, we'll work with what we have.
* My surgeon doesn't know what nutrition is needed. *HE* (the VP) will tell me what I should eat. (I will give him this - I am not eating enough Protein, I'll have to really ramp that up.) Sorry, dude. When you tell me that I can't count Beans or Peanut Butter as Proteins because they're not "complete" without discussing my knowledge of nutrition, you fail. I was raised vegetarian and know perfectly well how to combine foods to get a complete protein.
Bite me.
So I finally got rid of him, and got back to the head trainer who wanted to go through food lists (at the prompting of the VP). I had to explain to him (because I wasn't bothering with the VP) that I get *incredibly* ill in ketosis, so his "carbs are the enemy" lecture doesn't wash with me. I am willing to control my carbs so long as I'm above ketosis levels, and concentrate on complex carbs and healthy choices, but I will *not* do a ketogenic diet. Then I get a mini lecture on how tilapia is not a good choice (already knew that, but it's better than some other choices) and how swai fish is a GREAT choice. Looked that up when I got home, and it's a catfish from the far east. Sorry, dude. I don't eat bottom feeders or filter fish.
I get that most people they deal with are not well educated on nutrition. I get that trainers know more than the average bear about the subject. However, both of these guys are competitive body builders. Their nutritional approach is not going to work for everyone, and they need to learn to be flexible about it. I'm just glad we didn't even discuss veggies, because they'd be horrified to find that I just don't eat them (though I'm working on expanding my palate). And telling me to "just eat them" doesn't work, since I basically have PTSD around veggies and can't physically make myself eat something or I'll throw it up.
I wish they'd stick to the exercise piece.

Right after surgery, you body is in a major heal mode and it is common for patients to not be able to meet their Protein and Fluid goals during the first few weeks. But keep trying and you should be able to get there. And since you are 2 weeks post-op you should almost be able to meet these requirements.
The three most important elements after RNY gastric bypass surgery are to meet your daily Protein, Fluid and Vitamin requirements. food is secondary because your body is converting your stored fat into the energy that drives your body. Thus you lose weight.
Weight loss is achieved after surgery through volume control. You begin at 2 ounces (1/4 cup) per meal and gradually over the next year and a half increase the volume to 1 cup per meal. With this minuscule amount of food, it is next to impossible to meet your protein daily requirements by food alone, so therefore you need to rely on supplements such as Protein shakes. After my RNY surgery, life improved almost every day but it still took time. I think I reached my happy state at around 6 months. That was when almost all the problems seemed to melt away.

It does get better. Remember you had major surgery and it's a huge adjustment to the way you used to eat and drink. Focus on getting in your Water and Protein shakes for now. Hang in there!!
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