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I was a lover of beer when I was pre-op.
It's part of what made me so damn big. I loved it. We have a couple of new beer specialty shops 2-3 miles from my house. They pour you a growler of all sorts of high end suds. I would enjoy it while grilling, fishing, etc.
That being said......I've not had a beer in the last 14 months and I'm 7+ months post-op.
I don't miss it and I sure as hell don't want to drink calories at that level ever again. It's too easy for those calories to really add up.

Thanks to everyone who has been contributing to this discussion in a positive way. I am sorry this discussion needs to happen at all. I try very hard to maintain a positive environment at BariatricPal.
I do see the overly frequent negative posts, often by veterans. I understand that veterans may not have had the exact same challenges and questions as the current newbies, or that veterans feel they handled those challenges better and got their “own” answers to their questions. Maybe the veterans have (yep, it’s possible!) forgotten the minute to minute anxieties (“Can I eat this?” “Should I feel this?” “What if I didn’t hit my Protein? ” “Do I need to call my doctor?”) surrounding weight loss surgery. Maybe veterans didn’t have those particular anxieties and questions. Maybe veterans are simply sick of seeing and answering the same questions a million times.
Guess what: you don’t have to answer! Please don’t, if you don’t have a constructive answer to add to the conversation. If you feel a question is “too stupid” for you to answer politely, don’t answer it. You’ll save yourself some time, and you won’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Someone who does feel it’s worth the time to write a helpful, positive answer will get to it eventually.
And I know it’s not just veterans who can be rude. Please, everyone, we are all here for the same reason: to live healthier with whatever support we can get from each other. So what if there are already 105 posts on "can I eat pizza? " If you don't want to answer the 106th post, don't. Don't be rude about it.
Please do report any posts you see as negative or hostile. I won’t tolerate them, and you shouldn’t have to, either.

In real life, you don't like everyone you meet,and news flash....not everyone likes you. Who the hell cares, shut up and move on..geez
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Blimey! This has been an interesting read on this lovely Sunday morning, and just because Dub mentioned something on another post. It got my curiosity (OK, big standard nosey) antenna twitching! Thought that I'd add my two pennyworth for what it's worth.
I'm Jinty, and I'm an alcoholic. There, I've said it. I've been sober for 12 years with, for the first six years the help of AA meetings and other recovering alcoholics. I received a lot of tough love, common sense advice and several kicks up the arse to get me on the sobriety track. I DIDN'T get mollycoddled, fuzzy love and cuddles or any other pussyfooting nonsense. That is why I am sober today. There were plenty of perfectly nice drunks who went to meetings but who expected their sobriety to come from someone else. Those people usually went back out, back on the piss and a few of them are now dead. They often thought that the old timers with long term sobriety were too tough. They would form their little groups and have their pity parties, commiserate and then pick up a drink. I saw it happen time and time again. I stuck with the winners. Those who had been around for a few years. I stayed well away from newbies who thought that they knew it all because again, many of them fell off the wagon (and back into the gutter) because of their arrogance.
I have a great life because of my sobriety and it's getting even better now that I have taken drastic action to deal with my food addiction in the form of a VSG. To ensure that I keep going in the right direction, I am sticking with all you wonderful, bullying, foul mouthed, tyrannical, well informed, humorous bastards who post on this forum. You've served me well thus far and quite frankly, if it ain't broken then I ain't going to fiddle fixing it.

Ah... Those ppl that try to cheat the system.. I feel ya. They kind of deserve to get scolded a bit. There are so many ppl who want this tool so bad but can't have it for some reason and then you get the cheaters who want support.

Right. I'm the rude one. Seriously. Is anyone as amused as I am right now?

I don't know about this... i try to be understanding most of the time.. and usually post how MY experience was in regards to the question... But.... sometimes the question is sooooo silly or dangerous that some "tough love" is in order... sometimes i just want to virtually grab someone by the shoulders and shake them.... lol
Yes, we are here to support each other and share experiences... but i will never be the enabler who pats someone on the back saying "there, there little one, i support the fact that you are 2 days post op and trying to eat a huge steak wrapped in a bread roll, smoking and eating a celery stick"
I personally think thats counterproductive... its dangerous and risky... and why on earth someone would test their sleeve that early like that is beyond me! .. therefore i will never be supportive of something like that.
If the person can not take thr basic personal responsibility for their health by understanding the requirements... then they shouldn't complain when someone points out it is wrong.... but majority of the time the poster gets offended... lol the mind boggles

I want to like and unlike this 5000x to spam your notifications with likes so you can fully comprehend how much I like this.
Do you, like, get me?

I like you. And I concur with the in person thing. What you see is basically what you get with me. But that comes from being an old hag. I seriously could give a flying toot whether people like me or not.

I can't believe anyone who has been on the internet more than five minutes would whine or complain about other peoples behavior, on the internet.
Boggles the mind.
On the internet, I say exactly what I would, and have, said in person. Not everyone likes me. I would be afraid if everyone did.

You do have a point.
On the other hand, if it weren't for Snickers I wouldn't be here typing on this ridiculous thread on a lovely Saturday morning.

In other words: just like any other self-help group, whether online or IRL.

You had me at "tits".

I think the one thing we can ALL agree on is we want to see @@Dub f*ck that cake.

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Actually, I think the OP put herself on blast with the original post itself, and then admitting she did it just for the sake of feeling ... I think she used the word ... b!tchy? That kinda sealed the deal.
I also think a lot of those who also love to point fingers also called themselves out, but they probably will never see the irony in their accusations.
Anywho... Such is the life on an internet forum. I will go on being me, y'all go on being you. Hopefully EVERYONE will learn something today, hug someone they love, take a moment to enjoy a good meal, spend a few moments with a good book and a good friend, and realize just how lucky they are in the grand scheme of things.

I Actually don't care who its about..... Everyone has the potential to be mean or rude.... i just think its ironic... just an observation.. i have a warped sense of humor sometimes lol

Are you serious ?
I've found @@VSGAnn2014 to be one of the sweetest and most supportive people I've ever encountered. Clearly you have her mistaken for someone else.
You must have bumped your head.
Go ahead and give everyone their cake and just let me know where the rest is......'cause I'm gonna hop up on the counter and American Pie that cake into oblivion.

I've been on the internet since the dial-up AOL days (yes, I'm that old). This is a never-ending complaint... and no one is ever happy with the results. Over-moderate and people complain that discussion and debate is being stifled. Under-moderate and people get nasty. This site has nothing on parenting sites, BTW. LOL.
In the AOL days, a bunch of us used to hang around chat rooms "trolling for SNERTS" (snot-nosed egotistical rude twerps) and our entertainment would be messing with them. I don't have the time or energy for that anymore, so I just employ the rule "take what helps you, ignore the rest, and move along".
Edited to add: Seriously, if you want to see how vile and nasty people can get toward each other, venture onto a parenting board and make a statement advocating formula feeding and putting infants in daycare. Then carefully step back and watch the bloodbath commence.

Why do I feel like handing out pieces of cake now??? Mmmm. Cake.

Ahhh...well that makes this all SO much better.

Yup. Intentional drama. Wait, why DO some people try to ruin this forum?

one of my favorite quotes is "no one can make you feel inferior without your consent" Eleanor Roosevelt.
everyone you meet, every where every day is making a judgement about you. you are about others. it is just a part of being human. what matters is what you think of yourself.

And there it is.

one of the things I love about BP is that it is not "overmoderated" I have left other groups due to the fact that you couldn't have a decent debate on a topic (and there *are* some sticky wickets with this WLS process worthy of a hearty debate) without being asked to only say nice things.
I just don't think I am capable! although I do for the most part know how to behave in public - I don't want to be all "nice" all the time.
Be thankful for the ignore ability. it takes a lot for me to put someone on ignore. but It would be a shame for anyone to leave this forum because there was a group of people they didn't like. just ignore them officially if you can't just pass them by and go sit by the people you like! I promise you will learn a lot more than if everyone in a group was just like you or their plan was just like yours.
and, I will always give anyone the grace to correct or clarify themselves because there are times when any of us does not come across well online. or in person. yeesh. and some people will only make it worse when they try to clarify! but the truly awful ones, who you think might be trolls? they don't usually even come back to the drama they started.
we who are newer have a lot to learn from the veterans. they've tried all the recommendations and they are living it out one messy day after another. with varying degrees of success. but recommendations and plans change over time. the practice I used? what they recommend now has had some changes from when I went through early this year. so the vets have a lot to learn from the newer folk too about what the practices are thinking now. I hope we can all continue to hang together.
end of the day - to make a friend, be a friend.

Ahhh...the be kind to one another thing, right?