LondonHawk

I have been making my own Soups I put it in small containers and mix it with Protein powder and milk in the single serving Ninja.
I made a big batch of roasted pepper, Tomato and basil to get me through the first week. I cook the Soup mix it in the pot with a hand blender then Ninja the Soup and after that run it through a fine mesh strainer. That is probably overkill but better safe than sorry.
I feel better because the ingredients are all in my control along with spice and sodium content. So far this is working a half cup of soup this way has been dinner or lunch daily and I am getting pretty close to my 60g of Protein.< /p>

I don't think this is a study. By study I am looking for an actual experiment with a control or double blind controls and results or findings. The problem with so many food based studies is that they are not experiments but survey based. i.e. the issue with drinking diet sodas, does diet soda cause obesity or contribute or is do obese people just happen to drink diet soda?
In order to truly know the effect of diet soda on our sleeves we would need to find results of a study where 2 groups were one drinking diet soda and one not. Their diets would need to be the same and their exercise the same and their weight gain/loss and comparative endoscopy results might allow us to draw some real conclusion about the effect of diet soda on your sleeve and weight loss.
In the absence of that everything is conjecture and the only sensible alternative is to follow the advice of your physician, not the advice of someone else physician. After all if you hit a stall or a complication it is your actual physician you are going to be looking to help you correct things.

I,will have a look at the products you are suggesting. I am not working out that intensely I am coaching so a little running around a lot of teaching and a bit of demonstrating but on your feet and moving get for a few hours. Less cardio and more endurance.
The after 8 eating thing is an attempt to alter old habits. I was a night grazer and a bringer so I am really trying to establish new habits and break that cycle.
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I,will have a look at the products you are suggesting. I am not working out that intensely I am coaching so a little running around a lot of teaching and a bit of demonstrating but on your feet and moving get for a few hours. Less cardio and more endurance.
The after 8 eating thing is an attempt to alter old habits. I was a night grazer and a bringer so I am really trying to establish new habits and break that cycle.
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I,will have a look at the products you are suggesting. I am not working out that intensely I am coaching so a little running around a lot of teaching and a bit of demonstrating but on your feet and moving get for a few hours. Less cardio and more endurance.
The after 8 eating thing is an attempt to alter old habits. I was a night grazer and a bringer so I am really trying to establish new habits and break that cycle.
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No but you could stretch your stomach eating an entire pizza on multiple occasions. The point is that no study or medical evidence exists on the ability to stretch a sleeve other than observational with some Dr's saying yes you can and others saying no you cant. So everyone is left to determine what they believe and how they will act accordingly, not an ideal situation.

I think that the OP was not referring to carbonated waters (they can correct me if I am wrong).
My point was that VSG is not a solution, it is a tool and without significant life style changes it will become ineffective over time. The vast majority of us did not get to this point in our lives drinking carbonated waters. I am pretty sure that a lot of us here were addicited to the main stream carbonated drinks such as Coke and their diet or zero offerings. Those products were created to be addicitive are a big part of our obesity cycle.
I don't want to fall back in to that trap so I am good with removing them from my life which is really hard but if the idea that it would hurt and that my NUT says they are verbotten, well that just helps.
I am sure carbonated Water could be fine and I am sure there are people who have 1 12oz Coke Zero a month and are fine. But I am going to guess that the folks that can have 1 Coke Zero a month are in the minority here. (It would be interesting to see just how many of us were or are addicted to those drinks and what quantities we consumed pre SVG. I was easily 1 gallon -2 gallons a day of Coke Zero!)

In a nutshell carbonated drinks are to be avoided because they are unhealthy and make one fat and unhealthy!
Rather than ask why you can't do something the better question is given the decision to have A VGS why would you want to have carbonated drinks? Especially if it is one of your favorite things? I don't know about you but I have the least amount of control over my favorites.
I was a 2-3 liters of Coke Zero a day and trying to break myself was tough. I am treating it like rehab I just choose not to drink it today because I know where it will end.
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I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

Maybe they were going for the banned in Boston approach? or "hey woman never listen to me so this will definitely make them want it!" Either way I have seriously reservations about Dr Pepper's qualifications. I don't think he is board certified and I would not recommend him as a surgeon.

Maybe they were going for the banned in Boston approach? or "hey woman never listen to me so this will definitely make them want it!" Either way I have seriously reservations about Dr Pepper's qualifications. I don't think he is board certified and I would not recommend him as a surgeon.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

Can anyone provide a link to the study showing that the carbonation stomach stretching is a myth? I saw the MI Dr's videoand his information was based on his anectodal experience. Where is the actual study that says it cannot happen?

@beck90 I think you missed my point. What I was saying is that your personal physician the person who does yo​ur surgery is going to give you advice. You then have a choice follow it or don't. Sure information is important but in this day in age there are multiple opinions on any topic. Ultimately you have to decided and live with the consequences.
My question is if you know something is processed and not good for you why would you want to drink it if you are committing to a new healthy lifestyle? Is the risk that it might sabotage the effectiveness of your weightloss program worth that temporary satisfaction obtained by having it?
For most of us we had weightloss surgery because we were desperate to change our lives! So we are willing to do what ever it takes to get to that change.
I am sure a lot of folks who are at their goal or very near are willing to make compromises and have indulgences.
No Dr whether you are obese or not is going to tell you any soda is good for you. Will it stretch your pouch who the hecks knows but do you really need to find out? It is a bit like Pascal's wager it may or may not stretch you pouch but if I never drink it I wont really care or need to know.

Strangefruit
I feel for you.
If you are really that unhappy about eating 800 calories and losing weight then don't eat what ever you need to maintain what you have lost and be happy.
Everyone experience with surgery is different. For me it isn't just about weight loss it is about reversing the Diabetes and so far the results on that front have been astonishing.
I was a total emotional eater prone to binge and grazing so for me the changes forced on me by my sleeve have been a godsend I feel like I have control for the first time in my life.
I hope you figure it out.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

@beck90 I think you missed my point. What I was saying is that your personal physician the person who does yo​ur surgery is going to give you advice. You then have a choice follow it or don't. Sure information is important but in this day in age there are multiple opinions on any topic. Ultimately you have to decided and live with the consequences.
My question is if you know something is processed and not good for you why would you want to drink it if you are committing to a new healthy lifestyle? Is the risk that it might sabotage the effectiveness of your weightloss program worth that temporary satisfaction obtained by having it?
For most of us we had weightloss surgery because we were desperate to change our lives! So we are willing to do what ever it takes to get to that change.
I am sure a lot of folks who are at their goal or very near are willing to make compromises and have indulgences.
No Dr whether you are obese or not is going to tell you any soda is good for you. Will it stretch your pouch who the hecks knows but do you really need to find out? It is a bit like Pascal's wager it may or may not stretch you pouch but if I never drink it I wont really care or need to know.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.

I am borrowing from a different post cant remember the author and I am paraphrasing but:
I have been responsible for my nutrition and in charge for years. The net result of which is that I am morbidly obese and out of control. My philosophy was all things in moderation, the problem was my concept of moderation was extremely skewed. That moderation brought me Diabetes, Gout, High Cholesterol and probably liver and kidney damage.
So now I have sleeve, a NUT and a Dr all deciding as a team that are in charge of my nutrition and low and behold I am dropping weight, Diabetes is gone, Cholesterol is lower and liver is probably regenerating. If it is all the same I think the team probably makes better decisions than me where my nutrition is concerned.
You are free to eat and drink whatever you want and you can probably find a Physician that will tell you it is ok, but the vast majority wont. Why does it matter what they say you are in charge of your body do what you want after all you have to live with the consequences.