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When I'm browsing a thread that has more than one page and I change to e. g. the second or third page the page is not loading. At the bottom of the page is written "loading" but nothing happens. I have to refresh the tab so the page loads.

I never could relate to this either, so I understand. When I look at elective cardiac bypass surgery or PTA in your limbs - there are no six months waiting periods in which you have to prove you've tried radically changing your nutrition, stopped smoking and exercised regularly (at least not in the country I live in). No, because they think us fatties are too dumb and not responsible enough to know about nutrition and exercise before applying for surgery. --- While I agree that surgery should be taken seriously I'm not sure how anyone can learn something new regarding nutrition, exercise and coping mechanisms when surgery is supposed to be the last resort. Last resort means (at least it's the way I understand it): you have tried anything else and this includes the stuff they're going to tell you during these six months! If you can learn something new about nutrition, exercise and coping mechanisms during this waiting period: well, you didn't try everything else before applying for surgery... If these six months about "being prepared for surgery" - I guess a few evenings of information how things will be after surgery should be enough to take care of this.

With patience. --- You're 6 weeks out and 12 kg down - where is the problem?

Never so far? Maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones without cravings but I wouldn't bet on it. You have to learn to deal with head hunger.

It doesn't matter what works best for other people or the majority of people. The only thing that counts in the long run is: what is best for you to reach maximum weight loss and maintenance. You will have to experiment, no way around it. If you're lucky your first shot hits perfectly but maybe you will have to try different styles of eating/nutrition. A lot of people on this board eat low carb (or low carb/low calorie or low carb/low fat/low calorie) and a lot of nutritionists seem to favor this style these days so my bet is that you will try one of these low carb approaches as your first shot. If you're lucky, it will be your thing. If not, try not to feel like "a failure".

JC, take that polish off, don't wear make up and get out your piercings! You're having surgery. What does it even matter what your nails look like? Get those nails done once you're at home again!

I was. You just have to puree it.

I'd like to know as well (or maybe rather not?) - I think I've reached that point, stalling for several weeks now. No tendency to gain but also not losing. However, I'm still not back to my usual physical activity. First the prolonged shoulder problems (still bothering me) and just a few days after I started running again and biking to work again since the streets are no longer slippery because of low temperatures I lie more or less flat on my back with a cold. I only need a few kg more to reach normal weight so I'm not really sweating it but I guess a lot of people on here know what I mean: we want these last 5 or 6 kg! (even though the surgeons are already raving about us being successful)

Very interesting, thank you. I'm a revision from band to MGB because of reflux issues and a migrating band and I have to say it is very different now! Wish I had done this way, way, WAY sooner! (I was afraid of having surgery again. Should have done it sooner but it's always easy to say that after everything went ok.) I wonder how it will feel after being 2, 3, 7 years out. Definitely worth a quote.

That's really cool! Seems to be that revisions can be successful when it comes to weight loss.

Check out this video on some popular WLS myths.

Why?

Sounds like reflux issues. You might want to discuss it with your surgeon.

I had a tendency to dump on the protein shakes (MGB) so I switched to bars as soon as possible. I like Clif bars best, the No Cow low carb bars or Vega though Clif bars are my favorite. The protein brownies or cookies myprotein sells are also ok. As for the nutritional profile it depends on how strict you want to be. Some people agonize over a minuscule amount of carbs, I only watch out for a ratio that guarantees I'm not dumping on my food. As for protein bars are nothing better than candy bars - everyone has their own opinion on this. While IMO protein bars are not the best choices one can make it's still better than munching away on these snickers bars or whatever. I find that especially the Clif bars curb my desire for these kind of chocolate bars.

MGB or RNY can cure your reflux - or not. Mine got way better but it's not cured. I still need PPI. However, I also had a hiatal hernia. I might have one again so I guess I'm going in for diagnostics again soon.

It can still be some swelling. However, scar tissue that has formed is another possibility.

If insurance won't pay for plastics I'm definitely going to consider doing plastics abroad though only if everything seems to be organized well enough (e. g. the hospital being used to foreign patients and staff speaking English all the way through, maybe even some German).

This is exactly what I'm talking about. It's the typical vocabulary people use when talking about dieting ("falling of the wagon").

This. However, if you fail with WLS you're the true miserable loser. Of course diets don't work, but WLS does always. And if it doesn't, it's your fault alone. How I hate this attitude! The irony about this is that patients who had WLS are the worst when it comes to this and they don't seem to be able to realize that they're acting and thinking like the people who told them to "just put down the fork and move more". As if years and years of dieting and dealing with ignorant people wouldn't have taught us a lesson or two about weight loss and success.

Yes, and if they just ate less and moved more WLS would have been unnecessary...

Your body is telling you exactly what to do here. Listen to it.

Carbs are not crap. Good lord... Why not eat a sensible diet that includes all macronutrients within reasonable amounts?

Yes, no more diets for me. That got me into trouble in the first place.

For me the restriction and feeling full way sooner than before seems to do the trick. It is a difference how much you eat, even when you eat high quality nutrition only. You can overeat on high quality food and eat too much calories as a result (though this seems to be a concept many people out there obviously don't get)

Matthew Weiner has an interesting youtube video on this issue. Also on some popular WLS myths.