Lord Nikon

Good replies here and thanks for everyone telling me their experiences with the surgery. I guess I will have to go with what @Matt Z said and everyone's experience is different. I just found it odd that everyone that's had surgery here, including myself was drinking Protein (such premiere protein) the very same day or the next day after surgery and everyone from TJ/Mex are all told they shouldn't be drinking them, but using clear Proteins.

Also we do plan on asking these very questions, but wanted to ask here because the coordinator who is setting up this whole thing only said, "I don't know, just do what the paperwork says" -- Sorry I don't find that acceptable and while I get it, she's a coordinator, she can address it better or say "let me find out" or even, "I am not sure, but please bring this up with your surgeon".

thanks everyone!

Okay. Clear proteins.. got it.. but why isn’t regular liquid Proteins allowed. I was able to have it as well as my friends (all different surgeons as well).
Is it the special procedure they use in TJ that’s different then in the states?

So I've had my gastric sleeve surgery here in the States, and now its my wife's turn as she is going to TJ to get her surgery. Which is cool with me, its all we can afford.. and frankly I wish I found out about this when it was my chance.. so much cheaper.
Anyhow....
We finally got all the information from the plan and what makes zero sense to me, is the first week, she can't drink Protein? She's supposed to survive on Clear Liquids only? Like Crystal light and sugar free Gatorade? I find this weird, as after my surgery (and various others in my friends circle who had the exact same surgery) all were drinking Premier Protein or some other form of protein day 2. I remember myself struggling to drink a small shot glass of Protein like every so often during the day. I remember the nurse at the hospital telling me and my wife, "Make sure he drinks a (shows shot glass thing) of protein and follow the paperwork about what's allowed. See your surgeon in a week for a follow up".
Can anyone confirm this who's went through this? We are concerned about this.
thanks!

Good replies here and thanks for everyone telling me their experiences with the surgery. I guess I will have to go with what @Matt Z said and everyone's experience is different. I just found it odd that everyone that's had surgery here, including myself was drinking Protein (such premiere protein) the very same day or the next day after surgery and everyone from TJ/Mex are all told they shouldn't be drinking them, but using clear Proteins.

Also we do plan on asking these very questions, but wanted to ask here because the coordinator who is setting up this whole thing only said, "I don't know, just do what the paperwork says" -- Sorry I don't find that acceptable and while I get it, she's a coordinator, she can address it better or say "let me find out" or even, "I am not sure, but please bring this up with your surgeon".

thanks everyone!

You may have to ask the surgeon why his requirements are different. We are not surgeons and cannot answer the “why” of the differences in bariatric programs/preferences. We can only speak of our own experience, similar to your friends that were able to drink regular Protein Shakes.

so this topic after 12 pages, basically shows us that:
1) everyone has their opinion (right or wrong)
2) some people drink diet/carbonated drinks with no issues
3) some people have issues drinking it.
4) people will sometimes fight about it.
5) most are really set in their ways and no one will convince them otherwise
I think we've seen enough and heard enough about it. It really should be locked, but since its not, I will just turn off notifications.

so this topic after 12 pages, basically shows us that:
1) everyone has their opinion (right or wrong)
2) some people drink diet/carbonated drinks with no issues
3) some people have issues drinking it.
4) people will sometimes fight about it.
5) most are really set in their ways and no one will convince them otherwise
I think we've seen enough and heard enough about it. It really should be locked, but since its not, I will just turn off notifications.

I've been lifting weights since Jan of this year. I didn't bother with it and only did cardio, and then my surgeon was like, "JUST GET IT DONE NOW" so I went to the gym with a buddy, and he set me up with a small program, 3 times a week. I've seen results, but sadly I have a lot of hanging skin, so muscle is not as noticeable as I'd like.

so this topic after 12 pages, basically shows us that:
1) everyone has their opinion (right or wrong)
2) some people drink diet/carbonated drinks with no issues
3) some people have issues drinking it.
4) people will sometimes fight about it.
5) most are really set in their ways and no one will convince them otherwise
I think we've seen enough and heard enough about it. It really should be locked, but since its not, I will just turn off notifications.

so this topic after 12 pages, basically shows us that:
1) everyone has their opinion (right or wrong)
2) some people drink diet/carbonated drinks with no issues
3) some people have issues drinking it.
4) people will sometimes fight about it.
5) most are really set in their ways and no one will convince them otherwise
I think we've seen enough and heard enough about it. It really should be locked, but since its not, I will just turn off notifications.

so this topic after 12 pages, basically shows us that:
1) everyone has their opinion (right or wrong)
2) some people drink diet/carbonated drinks with no issues
3) some people have issues drinking it.
4) people will sometimes fight about it.
5) most are really set in their ways and no one will convince them otherwise
I think we've seen enough and heard enough about it. It really should be locked, but since its not, I will just turn off notifications.

Here's the issue...many people have zero interest in the truth or evidence-based facts. Rather, they seek validation of their beliefs from the various cheerleaders, Pollyannas, 'yes-people,' faux supporters, and basically anyone who will tell them what they want to hear. It's called confirmation bias.
For instance, many people who ask for advice aren't really looking for advice...they're really looking for others to validate a decision they've already made, and anyone who won't provide that validation is labeled as a 'meanie' or 'bully' or 'unsupportive.'
So someone eats an entire pizza at 3 months out? "Everything is going to be alright" seems to be the only acceptable response. Someone with untreated depression has already regained 30 pounds at one year out by self-medicating with Cookies and regular Coca-Cola all day? "Cheer up!" seems to be the only acceptable reply, and anyone who dare suggests he/she seek therapy for the depression is labeled a bully.
In essence, many people lie to themselves because the truth can hurt.

Yep. Need to debunk the legend. It's okay to drink diet or zero calorie (just carbonated water) in moderation. As always drunk your Water or your flavored drinks first and maybe save the diet soda as a treat. It's what I do. Once a week, when we have company over, on game night. I'll enjoy some Coke Zero over ice. It's a nice treat.
The Surgery is a tool, not the answer. It's there to help you learn moderation and how to live a healthier life style.

Yep. Need to debunk the legend. It's okay to drink diet or zero calorie (just carbonated water) in moderation. As always drunk your Water or your flavored drinks first and maybe save the diet soda as a treat. It's what I do. Once a week, when we have company over, on game night. I'll enjoy some Coke Zero over ice. It's a nice treat.
The Surgery is a tool, not the answer. It's there to help you learn moderation and how to live a healthier life style.

Yep. Need to debunk the legend. It's okay to drink diet or zero calorie (just carbonated water) in moderation. As always drunk your Water or your flavored drinks first and maybe save the diet soda as a treat. It's what I do. Once a week, when we have company over, on game night. I'll enjoy some Coke Zero over ice. It's a nice treat.
The Surgery is a tool, not the answer. It's there to help you learn moderation and how to live a healthier life style.

For those wondering.. here is the video that debunks drinking carbonation and other myths
Video

I am 18 months since my surgery and I drink coke zero or diet soda when I get together with my friends on the weekends and we play games. I normally open it, pour it over ice and wait about 5 minutes before drinking it. Nothing wrong with it. Moderation and not during eating.. 30 minutes before or after.

For those wondering.. here is the video that debunks drinking carbonation and other myths
Video

For those wondering.. here is the video that debunks drinking carbonation and other myths
Video

double post, admin please delete.

Dr Matthew Weiner has a great video about this topic, and states that carbonation stretching the stomach (especially a sleeve) is a myth. My surgeon also concurs.
The problem with soda are the CALORIES, NOT the carbonation. Empty, non nutritious calories are the fastest way to gain weight for a WLS patient because they go down so easily. It's silly to think the pressure from a few carbonation bubbles will "stretch" anything. Aside from the natural stretching that happens years out, it would take years of systematically over eating to the point of sickness to stretch a sleeve significantly because the fundus, or stretchy part, has been removed during surgery. Dr Weiner has no issues with carbonated waters or selzers as tolerated.
At 3.5 years post op, I drink carbonation periodically and can eat just as much as any one else as far out as me. It has not stretched anything. It's really time to put that myth to rest.

Yeah stalls do indeed kill, but we can resurrect ourselves from that grave! Haha Good for acknowledging how you feel. I had my first a few weeks ago and I know more are going to happen. Although it is hard I try to just focus on what I have lost so far. There is less of you than there was before, right? Can I get an amen on that?! lol I do not fully understand why stalls happen, but you are pressing on so that the stall does not become your permanent. That is also good. I read that sometimes there is a stall at week eight I might be in the same boat as you soon.

Before my surgery I was 439 and then I went on liquid 2 week diet dropped to 419...So I had my surgery on Dec 31st and was at 419.. Then I was down to 398.. And now I've stalled for 3 weeks now. I've also had a hard time pooping. So I take a daily Fiber powder in my Water.. I check today and I've gained just about 3 lbs. my doc says don't worry it's normal.. I walk about 5 miles a day for exercise through out the day.. I drink about 70 oz of water.. Nothing else. I eat about 800 to 1100 calories as I was told. The only thing I can't eat until next week is white breads and Pasta.. And nuts.
Sigh okay done crying. I know I know it happens.. I've read tons of posts here.
So.. Okay. I'm done.

Thanks for the advice. I may do this, I've always enjoyed a low carb diet, but not as restrictive as say Atkins, but keeping it under 50 carbs..
I am going to up my Protein and suck down more Water.. Keep carbs to a low level.

Before my surgery I was 439 and then I went on liquid 2 week diet dropped to 419...So I had my surgery on Dec 31st and was at 419.. Then I was down to 398.. And now I've stalled for 3 weeks now. I've also had a hard time pooping. So I take a daily Fiber powder in my Water.. I check today and I've gained just about 3 lbs. my doc says don't worry it's normal.. I walk about 5 miles a day for exercise through out the day.. I drink about 70 oz of water.. Nothing else. I eat about 800 to 1100 calories as I was told. The only thing I can't eat until next week is white breads and Pasta.. And nuts.
Sigh okay done crying. I know I know it happens.. I've read tons of posts here.
So.. Okay. I'm done.