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Stop. Stop. Stop. At two weeks out, your body has ONE goal: heal from surgery. It grabs on to every bit of nourishment it can so rebuild tissues. Don't expect to see much more than Fluid shift and initial losses from a drastic reduction in calories until you're a month out. The real healing point is between 4 and 6 weeks, no matter what you feel like. that's when you are healed enough to really get serious with the weight loss.

This is a blog. It's complete crap. You really need to stay off the internet if you're going to fall for stuff like this. STOP.
Do you have any calming techniques you use for anxiety? If you do, you need to start to use the and stop trolling the internet for clickbait hogwash like this. NOW.

Actually, you can hope for much better results than that. The mean is the average - all participants in the study with their results, even the ones with poor results for whatever reason.
I don't know about you, but I don't plan to be average

Actually, you can hope for much better results than that. The mean is the average - all participants in the study with their results, even the ones with poor results for whatever reason.
I don't know about you, but I don't plan to be average

I'm probably going to have a lot of people disagree with me on this, but you're what, five months out? I'd actually just try increasing your calories before your next NUT appt. and see what happens. It isn't as though you're advancing to different foods, you're just (potentially) increasing your calories.

Actually, for me it isn't about the alcohol at all. It's more the all-or-nothing, "WLS patients can't be trusted to make good decisions" attitude that fries me. I'm a grownup. This is my life, my sleeve, and my health. I accept full responsibility for them.

Actually, for me it isn't about the alcohol at all. It's more the all-or-nothing, "WLS patients can't be trusted to make good decisions" attitude that fries me. I'm a grownup. This is my life, my sleeve, and my health. I accept full responsibility for them.

Part of the major issue with these studies is that long-term statistics are only as good as the followup. If patients are successful long term, or not, if they don't keep up with their surgeons, where does the data come from?

You've really got yourself tied up in knots over all this. I'm sorry you're feeling so out of control.
You are not going to die because you're having a tough time in the early days. I couldn't keep anything at all down until I was a week postop, and nothing but Clear Liquids after that for another 10 days after that. I'm halfway between five and six weeks and I'm meeting Protein, Fluid, and calorie goals. Really.
You are not going to "die young after having so many complications from getting 70% of my stomach removed and losing all those important hormones." All what important hormones? The only hormone you're losing is ghrelin, the hormone that can lead to overeating.
Buyer's remorse is very, very, VERY common in the first month after surgery, especially for people who have a rougher time than others. I've observed from reading these boards that it's also very common in younger individuals with less life experience who may also have less understanding of how our bodies work. Lack of knowledge can really contribute to fear of the "what if's".
Don't let that derail you. If you haven't already been in touch with your surgeon about the trouble you're having, call. Now. I don't care if it's the weekend, there is always someone on call 24/7.
Hang in there. You can do this!

Wait a minute. You say here you are certain that your surgeon "screwed up" and further, you are sure you know why. Because you've "tested" your sleeve, even before you knew you should have.
How specific were your surgeon's postop guidelines concerning volume and over that timeframe?
Were you directed to eat not more than specific amounts? Did you follow those recommendations? Did you tell your surgeon that you'd "tested" your capacity against that of relatives who were further out?
And why, in the name of all we hold dear, did you put an entire 20-oz steak on your plate in the first place? Were you not taught the things we all have - small plates, small volumes, chewing throughly, eating slowly?
You put a 20-oz steak on your plate, eat it, and have the nerve to say your surgeon "screwed up"?
Time for some ownership of your choices. You definitely should talk with your surgeon, and soon - but try listening, rather than jumping to conclusions. I was never banded, so I can't say anything from personal experience about the band-to-sleeve surgery. but undoubtedly your surgeon has information that you need. Ask. Don't tell, ask.

Just a clarification. Insurance adjusters aren't the ones who make any decisions about whether anything is covered. Any health plan that is accredited by either of the two major national accrediting bodies or is licensed by Medicare has to have physicians and pharmacists making coverage decisions according to evidence-based clinical criteria.
Employers who purchase insurance can (depending on the state and the health plan) purchase insurance for their insureds that excludes specific procedures, but if the State in which the coverage is sold requires a set of basic benefits, those basic benefits can't be excluded. Just as an example, many policies here in CA used to exclude coverage for infertility treatment. That isn't the case any longer, because companies that didn't provide it couldn't compete for qualified candidates for employment without it. Companies wanted to exclude it because it raised the cost of coverage for every single insured for that company, and they wanted to keep premium costs down so that neither they nor their employees were paying for coverage that a very small percentage of people needed to use.
States can, and do, mandate benefits, but what proved to be the case here in CA is that for every mandated benefit, there is an incremental increase in costs both for premiums for the purchaser/consumer, and for the insurer to prove compliance with the mandate.
One of the provisions of the ACA is to eliminate the "pre-existing condition" penalty in terms of someone's eligibility to become insured. I can only speak for the situation here in CA, but here, if you go out of plan for surgery of any kind, whether you see a local plastic surgeon or a cardiologist in Morocco, and you need care for complications, you're covered for those complications. It's the law.

I foresee the insurance picture changing over time. I'm in CA, and coverage for bariatric surgery here is the norm, not the exception. I've worked in managed care for twenty years. Twenty years ago, nobody asked for, or got bariatric surgery. Ten years ago, it was rare. Today, it's routine. My PCP views weight loss surgery as "definitive treatment for obesity". That would have been a radical statement five or ten years ago.

Wait a minute. You say here you are certain that your surgeon "screwed up" and further, you are sure you know why. Because you've "tested" your sleeve, even before you knew you should have.
How specific were your surgeon's postop guidelines concerning volume and over that timeframe?
Were you directed to eat not more than specific amounts? Did you follow those recommendations? Did you tell your surgeon that you'd "tested" your capacity against that of relatives who were further out?
And why, in the name of all we hold dear, did you put an entire 20-oz steak on your plate in the first place? Were you not taught the things we all have - small plates, small volumes, chewing throughly, eating slowly?
You put a 20-oz steak on your plate, eat it, and have the nerve to say your surgeon "screwed up"?
Time for some ownership of your choices. You definitely should talk with your surgeon, and soon - but try listening, rather than jumping to conclusions. I was never banded, so I can't say anything from personal experience about the band-to-sleeve surgery. but undoubtedly your surgeon has information that you need. Ask. Don't tell, ask.

Speaking only for myself, I'd prefer an occasional glass of wine to an occasional four Cookies, hands down.
I'm an adult. I'm educated and capable of educating myself about the pros and cons of alcohol intake now that I'm sleeved.
I neither want or need anything beyond education on the matter from my bariatric team. Like every bite I put in my mouth and every step I take toward improved fitness, these are my responsibilities for my life, and my lifetime. I neither want nor need draconian edicts in an attempt to scare me into adherence into what anyone thinks I "must" do, or not. It's paternalistic, patronizing, and unwelcome.

This is a blog. It's complete crap. You really need to stay off the internet if you're going to fall for stuff like this. STOP.
Do you have any calming techniques you use for anxiety? If you do, you need to start to use the and stop trolling the internet for clickbait hogwash like this. NOW.

Relax your mind, human growth hormone (HGH) is produced and released from your pituitary gland, far, far from your stomach, no matter how much was removed.

You've really got yourself tied up in knots over all this. I'm sorry you're feeling so out of control.
You are not going to die because you're having a tough time in the early days. I couldn't keep anything at all down until I was a week postop, and nothing but Clear Liquids after that for another 10 days after that. I'm halfway between five and six weeks and I'm meeting Protein, Fluid, and calorie goals. Really.
You are not going to "die young after having so many complications from getting 70% of my stomach removed and losing all those important hormones." All what important hormones? The only hormone you're losing is ghrelin, the hormone that can lead to overeating.
Buyer's remorse is very, very, VERY common in the first month after surgery, especially for people who have a rougher time than others. I've observed from reading these boards that it's also very common in younger individuals with less life experience who may also have less understanding of how our bodies work. Lack of knowledge can really contribute to fear of the "what if's".
Don't let that derail you. If you haven't already been in touch with your surgeon about the trouble you're having, call. Now. I don't care if it's the weekend, there is always someone on call 24/7.
Hang in there. You can do this!

This is a blog. It's complete crap. You really need to stay off the internet if you're going to fall for stuff like this. STOP.
Do you have any calming techniques you use for anxiety? If you do, you need to start to use the and stop trolling the internet for clickbait hogwash like this. NOW.

Relax your mind, human growth hormone (HGH) is produced and released from your pituitary gland, far, far from your stomach, no matter how much was removed.

Today I wore a pair of jeans I haven't been able to wear in eight years. I got so few wearings out of them that they still look new.
That'll do for a start (I'm a month postop tomorrow).

Stop. Stop. Stop. At two weeks out, your body has ONE goal: heal from surgery. It grabs on to every bit of nourishment it can so rebuild tissues. Don't expect to see much more than Fluid shift and initial losses from a drastic reduction in calories until you're a month out. The real healing point is between 4 and 6 weeks, no matter what you feel like. that's when you are healed enough to really get serious with the weight loss.

Today I wore a pair of jeans I haven't been able to wear in eight years. I got so few wearings out of them that they still look new.
That'll do for a start (I'm a month postop tomorrow).

A stall at three weeks out is very, very, VERY common. You are generally back to a typical activity level and your intake has been severely restricted. You are healing, and have not been taking in sufficient calories to met your basic needs at rest.
Just keep following your postop instructions. 8 kg. in three weeks is still a significant loss!

Today I wore a pair of jeans I haven't been able to wear in eight years. I got so few wearings out of them that they still look new.
That'll do for a start (I'm a month postop tomorrow).

This is a blog. It's complete crap. You really need to stay off the internet if you're going to fall for stuff like this. STOP.
Do you have any calming techniques you use for anxiety? If you do, you need to start to use the and stop trolling the internet for clickbait hogwash like this. NOW.