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In the first 6 months I lost 70-ish lbs and my surgeon was thrilled with my progress. He said that I would most likely bottom out at 220. I was hoping for the magical 199 by my 1 year mark, but I fell I a little short of my goal but beat his estimate. At the 1 year mark I had lost another 40 lbs for about a 110 lbs loss. So while he said you may not lose the same amount of weight in the same amount of time, I am pretty sure that he didn't mean that it will never happen. I ended up bottoming out at 197 lbs. Since then, I have gained back about 10 lbs of what I hope to be lean muscle mass. Don't focus on the time frame or even the weight. Focus on the lifestyle changes and how you physically feel!

@@cbonet - nor can I. They were probably removed by the user or the location of them moved.

Thats actually debunked many times. The rates at which protein is metabolized varies as does where it is completely broken down by our bodies. Add to that that no two people are the same. Will an accountant and a linebacker both only be able to use 30 gm's of protein? According to this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10867039 Whether you eat an entire days worth of protein in one meal or spread over 3 meals throughout the day makes little difference to our body. The main thing you should focus on is a daily goal. If you need 60 grams of protein a day, just focus on that. Don't worry if you get it all in the morning or at one meal.

*Generally* speaking, men have greater muscle mass than women. So we are capable of burning fat more quickly than women. That being said, if you don't do as you are instructed by your surgeon you will most likely not lose as quickly as the average male.

OK, it's been a while guys. We need some more activity up in this here thread. Tonight was a big evening for me. I have a bunch of s h i t going on right now so I have hit the weights with a heightened sense of focus. And it is finally paying off. I got my deadlift up to 225lbs! Not the greatest quality, but it is from my form check video. I got my squat up to 185lbs, but my form check video showed that I was not getting deep enough, so I lowered the weight and and just trying to teach my body the form until it is muscle memory. Personally, super proud of this deadlift accomplishment. And yeah, I am kinda happy with how my chest, traps, and shoulders look! @@BigTink2LilTink @Dub... I haven't heard from you guys in a while. How goes the progress? Avoiding injury I hope!

I'm totally doing a slutty school girl costume. Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity and spelling.

I know it may sound funny, but Yoga has been a huge help to me. The reason I had the gastric surgery in the first place was because my back surgeon said he would cut on me unless I was 100lbs lighter. So surgery first, recovery and exercise, then started yoga. I am happy to report that the incredible pain I was in prior to surgery is gone and I rarely have spasms or shooting pain in my back/legs. I will still have to have the surgery eventually, but I probably gave myself another 5-10 years.

Oh, I meant to mention it - properly performed squats are good for the knees If you can, go to the library and look for a book called Starting Strength. I'm not telling you to do that routine (it's brutal) but there is a chapter on the squat that discusses how the posterior chain is involved in the squat as well as how when the bar path is vertical and your stance is proper, the knees are protected. So even if you start with nothing but a broomstick (like I did), squatting would be a very good idea.

I've replied to this question many times over the past year. Allow me to quote myself: I think you get the idea. I have some threads on my personal workout from earlier this year that my be useful to you. I am currently doing squats, deadlifts, presses... all things that you shouldn't even be thinking about at this stage.

I find the best way to prepare GENEPRO is to make sure the lid is on tightly and then chuck it in the trash. The makers of that stuff are about as shady as they come. They say their magical process reduces the size of Protein molecules! In their own words: They are saying their 10g of special protein is equivalent to 30g whey. I believe this says it best about Genepro: Long story short, they are selling lies. Most likely they are selling BCAA's and calling it protein. Do yourself a favor and buy a reputable protein brand. Gold Standard is good brand. There are so many manufacturers that lie on their labels, you almost have to look them up and see how many lawsuits they have against them before you buy! If their process was true, every other maker out there would be following suit because it is such a cutthroat business. The fact that most retail chains refuse to carry it is evidence of the company's reputation.

@@rydersmama - It's a guy from Norway (I believe) doing a heavy metal cover of Adele's Hello and I am telling you right now, it's is seriously kickass.

OK, resurrecting this thread because I have just found the mother-lode of workout music. https://youtu.be/LtQUJMBH8uE I seriously cannot wait to have this blaring during my deadlift session.

In the beginning that will be true. But if she is wanting to build muscle she will eventually have to starting eating more. I am currently having trouble building muscle because as hard as I try I cannot seem to eat more than 2300 calories a day. It's definitely a balancing act. You don't want to get into the habit of grazing, and you can't gorge yourself on a single meal. Trying to get strong and losing fat at the same time is hard. If this were a person who was in the first couple months out from surgery I would recommend they just stick with losing fat and maintain muscle mass as best they can.

At this stage of your program, do not worry about supplements. A supplement will not give you big muscles or "tone" anything. Only hard work does that. The only replenish what you use or provide whatever is missing in your diet. Don't get me wrong, if you are busting your ass every week on the weights, hitting your nutritional macros and maxing out your weights, a supplement will give you more growth. But that is a year (at least) away from where you are now. You really only need to focus on your macros in your diet. If you are going to be lifting weights, you are going to need high amounts of proteins and fats. Yes fats. Just make them good ones and you will be fine. If you are working the weights at the limit of your strength, you will burn the calories. As a side note, I just want to go on record to say that even if you lift at your max for the next year, you are not going to turn into one of those grotesquely muscular woman. That kind of result takes more than just BCAA's and whey protein! Case in point: https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/ This girl is awesome. She's a little 130 lbs kid that deadlifts 300lbs+! She doesn't look grotesque either. I'd say she is just a cutie!

All sound advice. Hope these various opinions helped you out some! Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity and spelling.

I actually fainted 3 days post op. I like to think of myself as a manly man; as much as I disliked the doting behavior of my wife those first few days I am very glad she was there in hindsight. I hear where you are coming from and I totally relate. But call a friend and see if they can stay with you. Tell them you are just going to be hanging out and you need him to eat all your food that will go bad!

Consider yourself lucky @@Ryan TN, my nutritionist was worthless. I say "was" because I stopped going to her after my 2nd post op meeting with her. I was better informed and prepared for our meetings then she ever was. Even my surgeon would roll his eyes whenever I mentioned this particular nutritionist. @@mi75 - I am also not a fan of the people who work at gyms. Whether it is a trainer or a nutritionist, I find they are more concerned with baiting the hook than helping people with lifestyle changes. Sure, they'll be hot to sell you on energy bars or devise a routine to give you "six-pack abs in 2 weeks!" , but giving you a platform for a lifetime of safe and healthy fitness? Not likely in my experience. Two areas I was fortunate in; 1 - my surgeon and his staff. Both my surgeon and one of his assistants are lifters. They are the ones that I would pick their brain about diet. 2 - In regards to supplements, I go to The Vitamin Shoppe and there is one employee who is a fitness instructor as part time retail employee. What makes her special is that she doesn't push expensive brands and flashy marketed products. Tried and true whey Protein and maybe creatine monohydrate. Wanna know what the best whey protein supplement is? It's the one that you will actually use. Isolate, concentrate, blended... doesn't matter. Just as long as you use it. Your focus on diet should be like a prescription. You need protein, eat meat and supplement with whey. Need complex carbs? Figure out how much and eat that much in oats or shredded wheat. Get some prunes or benefiber to up the Fiber content. Think of food as a prescription and just something that needs to be done. Not every meal needs to be a three course meal or dripping with savory goodness. It just needs to fuel your activities. I eat 2 meals a day (lunch & dinner), but I snack every 2 hours or thereabouts. Breakfast is usually just a Protein Bar.

Weight lifting is such a broad term and honestly overused term that it is hard to understand what a person means when they say it. When I say it, I mean lifting weights at the limit of my strength currently in order to overload the muscles and cause enough stress to force my body to become stronger. When my wife says it, she just means comfortable weights moved to gain endurance. If you are more interested in my wife's idea of weight lifting, you probably only need the normal recommended macros for a bariatric patient. 60-80 grams of Protein, ditto for complex carbs and then some healthy fats. 1200-1700 calories for a goal weight of 170. If you are looking to actually gain strength, you are going to be looking at 1700-2200 calories and a protein intake up to 150 grams. Complex carbs are still needed, but we are going to need more protein as a % since we are dealing with restricted stomachs. Fats are of course essential, but they have to be good fats! Milk fat in yogurt or regular milk as well as nuts and avacado as an example.

Like this kind of beast? Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity and spelling.

Yeah, don't. Those things are poison and should be taken off the market. I put those things right up there with the Car Title Loan places as perfect examples of taking advantage of people. Don't believe me? Ask your surgeon his opinion.

lol, I don't know about all that. I prefer the term Silver Fox!

If you are wanting weight loss, distance on a machine is irrelevant as is resistance. The only thing you need to focus on is your heart rate. Your heart rate should be 130-ish or thereabouts do truly be in cardio mode. Weight lifting can of course increase your heart rate, but not to the levels you are wanting. That being said, more muscle mass means more calories will be used for fuel. My recommendation is not to focus on the "destination" of 1 or two miles, but stay on that elliptical for 45 minutes with the sweat pouring off you and your breathing is accelerated.

A push pull split would be Chest/Shoulders/Triceps one day, then Legs & Core, and finally Bicep/Forearm/Back. I tried this routine for 2 months and it just didn't work for me. I was exhausted mid-way through and never felt as though I did a good job as a whole. Muscle Grouping would be Legs, Chest, Shoulders & Back, then Bicep/Tricep/Forearm on seperate days. I did this routine with excellent results for a long time. The idea is to saturate the groups with blood so that during recovery they would reap the most benefits. Starting Strength is Squats, Presses, and Deadlift. Thats it. 3 days a week. Guaranteed strength increases, but I am finding it boring. But I personally need to make some strength increase so this is what I am doing. Circuit training is doing everything; legs, back, core, chest, arms, and shoulders with light weights. A big misnomer for this is "toning". I personally call it "wasting time". Yes, you will burn calories but you will not be getting stronger. Also, you spread your recovery across all muscle groups. With our reduced intake, this one makes no sense. Whatever you are doing though, it looks like it is working. Good luck with the continued workouts and hopefully no injuries!

@@MayMarie lol, leg day and chill? That's about all I am good for after leg day! Outstanding results, congrats on your success and best wishes for continuing. I know you said you are working with a trainer, but what kind of a routine have you in place? Push/pull split? Muscle grouping? Starting Strength only? Circuit? Inquiring minds want to know!

... Daaa-yum! I mean seriously, damn! Fantastic results. Good job and keep up the hard work. Sent from my phone, please forgive brevity and misspelling