Healthy_life2

53 minutes ago, ray81 said:

I thought it'd be interesting to hear people's lowest points before surgery that led them to the decision of having surgery. My lowest was being at an amusement park with my wife and son. They had a waterslide area and we decided to go on. The bottom of the steps had a sign that listed the maximum weight as 300lbs, which I knew I was around 320 at the time. I figured I could get by. We finally get all the way to the top and I see a giant scale ahead of the slides with red and green lights. My wife and son had to look on as the light went red and I had to walk my fat ass all the way back down through the crowded stairs. That really cemented it for me that it was time for a change and surgery was the right thing ahead for me.

I wish it didn’t take a major health crisis to wake me up. I went int diabetic ketoacidosis. Eight days in ICU. My heart stop and Dr’s revived me. Nothing like a second chance in life to force you to change.

I just needed to get this off my chest here in the lounge

I found my old post-surgery playlist today. (may not be anyone’s taste in music) This song helped me with some weight loss mental battles. I had to process my mother’s death and let go/forgive my larger self. Five years later, I got emotional at the gym while listening to this.

For my mother and husband. Thankful for their loving support

2 hours ago, Meryline said:

I don't really carb load as I in general eat lots of carbs, but I make sure I hydrate well.

I don't do well with vests, so I use Nathan hydration belt. As for the cups, thankfully they don't use styroform here, so I can grab the top, clap it shut, and sip out little by little at one and, if that makes sense.

So my race plan for the next year is this so far.

December 8th I'll do a 10k.
December 31st I'll do a 5.3k during the day and maybe a 5k right after midnight. So we start with the fireworks.
January maybe a 7k or a 14k (It's a 7k round and you can do up to a full marathon)
February I fly to Florida and do the Fariytail challenge 10k and half marathon in Disney
March or April I'll do a half, trying for a new PB, under 2h.
May 3rd it's Wings for life
End of May it's the larges Womens race in Europe with 32000 ladies. Probably a 10k.
I have nothing so far in June-August
September I'm hoping to do the 36k challenge in Disneyland, Paris. 5k Friday night, 10k Saturday morning and half marathon on Sunday.

Oh, did I tell you I started running at the very end of February of this year, after recovering from back surgery.

What about you, anything planned?

Wow, amazing full list. You are a bariatric bad ass. Update us on the runs when you have time.

My mother passed away from cancer in 2013 I had surgery in June 2014. My goal was to do a 5K in her memory. First 5k (turkey trot) in November 2014 . Race for the cure was on Mother’s Day. Emotional to cross the finish line. I went on to do 10, half and full marathons. Still amazed that I’m doing this in my 50’s.

I carb load for half and full marathons. My bariatric team had no clue how to fuel with a bariatric stomach. I hired a sports medicine dietician to help me dial things in. I learned many things from the other bari -athletes on this site. I love shalane Flanagan (Olympic runner) book. Eat slow run fast.

• I am doing race to Robbie creek half marathon. It’s an elevation mountain trail run.
• Idaho wine run half or full. Beautiful vineyards and wine tasting after party.
• I’m still deciding on charity runs for 2020.

23 minutes ago, Meryline said:

@Healthy_life2

So I drink elektrolytes in the days leading up to a race and druing. I only grab Water from fuel stations because I don't know what they'll serve or how my stomach will react.

It has been trial and error for what do use during a race. Up until now it's actually been sour Gummy candy that has worked the best. I start at about 30min in, and I'll have one every km. It'll probably have to change now as I'm try hard to cut the candy, but if I can't find anything else, I'll go back to it. Next race where I'll need to fuesl is in February, so I'll have time.

For me it's been and issue with fueling after. I can go up to 2 hours without wanting to eat. And when you have a workout later in the day or early next morning, you need to refuel shortly after the workout.

I carb load/ tapper seven days pre-race to build glycogen stores. Race day, I add powdered carbs and electrolytes to my Water. My hydration vest has a bite straw that I can take small sips to the end of the race. (I can’t gulp water in the Styrofoam cups at aid stations)

What race are you doing in February?

@Meryline

I’m a sleeve. It has been trial and error to find foods I can tolerate for carb load and race day. I’m always interested in what other runners are eating.

@Meryline

Glad you found what helps you recover after a distance run. Have you tried RX bars?

Just a thought,

How many of you can eat more volume years out? Mostly seeing this with sleeves. (Extra space but your stomach is not back to full size) I see people confuse this with stretching. (Stretching is rare. Have it diagnosed by surgeon)

I do agree with fluffy about keeping volume as instructed by your team.

I know where my new sensation of full is. I don’t go by volume. I eat my weight loss/maintenance calories.

25 minutes ago, Midnightsun said:

I don’t have ANY problem someone who disagrees or questions it. I questioned it myself. I don’t think I needed to be talked to the way she did or for her to make fun of my surgeon \ nutritionist. I am sorry we are suppose to be here to help each other. Just because someone can post on almost every post does not make you a professional and should not be giving information as one. It is one thing to post something what you were told or what you are doing so people can see if that is good for them. It is NOT OK to give medical advice or to downright discredit something you are not qualified to do.

I was so pissed off With her response I called my nutritionist to verify and he went through everything again on the reasoning. I just don’t feel this is how we should talk to each other. Shame on her!

Its frustrating figuring out bariatric stages etc. Keep working with your team, things will get better over time. You are new to the site, take what’s useful and ignore the rest. You can block people if you like.

3 hours ago, Dawnsiman said:

I had my surgery 24 days ago everything’s fine with the surgery my sugar levels at first we’re perfect now there up to 271 - 268 What can be causing this does anybody else had this happen

This sounds like a medical concern. Can you call your bariatric team for advice?

38 minutes ago, Lysbelle said:

I’m hoping that I am posting in the correct board.

I am now a little over two years post op from gastric bypass and had surgery on my rotator cuff twice this year, bed bounding me pretty badly the first time and then just making it difficult to exercise and move with the revision. I’ve been having immense pain in my face and other parts of my upper body after this second surgery, not helping my cause.

This has made cooking a burden, especially foods I should be eating, and I have a tendency to graze at night. That wouldn’t be so bad if I could have something like grapes, but they make me dump so quickly.

Does anybody have advice on how to get back on track (after the shoulder injury and getting back on anti-anxiety meds I gained about 40 from my lowest post bypass)?

What tracking programs do folks here use? My parents encouraged WW, but I’m unsure if it’s the right way to go? And seeing gastric surgeon’s office isn’t an option. 1. I moved about 200-300 miles away and 2. I lost my trust in them when my gallbladder nearly sent me into sepsis, but they refused to acknowledge there was an issue. I had to go to a well respected (serious, terrific guy!) general surgeon to get it evaluated and removed.

I tried to get seen by another office at one point, but they did not want to help me as I did not have my surgery with them.

Any help is deeply appreciated!

I’m sorry that you are struggling. All I can offer is some options to get back on track

• Log your food in an app – Myfitnesspal is free.(Google to find other apps) Stay within your weight loss calories and macros for the day.
• Get all temptation foods out of the house.
• Make an appointment to see a dietician. (Doesn’t have to be a bariatric dietician)
• Go grocery shopping for items on your food plan.
• Reduce cooking burden - Buy pre cooked Protein. (chicken, beef etc.) tuna packs, Microwavable veggies, packaged salad mix – Find items on your plan that are no to low cooking.
• Find healthy options for sweet and salty cravings. Sweet – dannon light n fit Greek yogurt – Salty Jerky
• Extra carbs and sugars with cause hunger – detox off them
• Counselling may help
• If you cannot exercise. your weight loss is more dependent on your diet. Log your food and stay within your calories and macros.

Links:

Myfitnesspal downloads

https://www.myfitnesspal.com/

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myfitnesspal.android&hl=en_US

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/myfitnesspal/id341232718

Myfitnesspal tutorials

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=myfitnesspal+tutorials

Doing the head work

https://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/425354-the-importance-of-doing-the-head-work/?tab=comments#comment-4776743

No to low cooking

https://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/411624-no-to-low-cooking-ideas-for-real-foods-stage-4-post-op/?page=3

November weight loss challenge

https://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/428613-🍂-nov-2019-challenge🍂/?tab=comments#comment-4822041

1 hour ago, ms.sss said:

Ok, I'm not a super athlete by any means, but I also weigh more now than I did in high school (115-ish now, 105-ish back then), BUT I am definitely smaller in overall size now vs. then.

Muscle takes up less space than fat. May be why clothng fits better.

2 hours ago, ms.sss said:

This sounds like the makings of a yummy low carb "pasta" meal! Did you happen to take any pics?

My daughter in law commented that I was eating a family sized salad bowl. I will get pics next time.

11 hours ago, ms.sss said:

Edited to add: I double posted this in the Maintenance Thread cuz I thought it would be appropriate there...

OK, so I noticed a behavioural pattern in me that I sort of see in others as well, based on their posts/comments/etc that I have read.

So I remember when I was at 127 lbs I was of the opinion that I was way too small and was adamant I did not want to lose any more, and I wanted to maintain in the 125-130 range.

Then I got under 125. Something in me changed and I mentally switched my maintain range to 120-125.

During my attempts to transition into maintenance, I got under 120. Not surprisingly, my chosen maintain range became 115-120. If I got near too near 120, I would buckle down to get closer to 117.5

Fast forward to today and for some reason or another, I got under 115. I've been under 115 for about a month now. Now even though I am now 10-15 lbs below what I thought was too small way back then, I find myself getting lowkey concerned when I get closer to 115! I mean, for the past couple days I have been like 3-4 ounces within 115 and I find myself watching my food choices more closely.

Its as if each new 5 lbs loss increment becomes the new standard (despite it being intentional or not) that I have to defend.

Now don't get me wrong, I am very pleased with how I look and feel these days, and don't feel I need to lose nor gain any weight. Right now this is just an observation that *may* be a concern *if* I get under 110 or 105 (which honestly I think is very unlikely). I just sorta wonder sometimes if I would feel the need defend a 100-105 range if I ever got there?

I dunno. We'll cross that bridge if we ever come to it. In the meantime, whoo-hoo, LOL

I also double posted.

I felt the need to defend my weight loss. It’s work getting to goal. I was preparing for the 10+ weight bounce, fear of regain, and the scale affected how I feel about myself. I felt great when the scale was at its lowest. I felt like I failed this process with a slight gain.

It has taken years to work out some of these things.

You are doing great.

9 hours ago, ms.sss said:

Ok - So I actually wrote this on another thread just now, but I thought maybe it would be more relevant/appropriate here. @FluffyChix and I were discussing barbie dream goal weights on the thread and I had some DEEP THOUGHTS hahahahahaha....

P.S. see link below if you are interested in reading it in context

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OK, so I noticed a behavioural pattern in me that I sort of see in others as well, based on their posts/comments/etc that I have read.

So I remember when I was at 127 lbs I was of the opinion that I was way too small and was adamant I did not want to lose any more, and I wanted to maintain in the 125-130 range.

Then I got under 125. Something in me changed and I mentally switched my maintain range to 120-125.

During my attempts to transition into maintenance, I got under 120. Not surprisingly, my chosen maintain range became 115-120. If I got near too near 120, I would buckle down to get closer to 117.5

Fast forward to today and for some reason or another, I got under 115. I've been under 115 for about a month now. Now even though I am now 10-15 lbs below what I thought was too small way back then, I find myself getting lowkey concerned when I get closer to 115! I mean, for the past couple days I have been like 3-4 ounces within 115 and I find myself watching my food choices more closely.

Its as if each new 5 lbs loss increment becomes the new standard (despite it being intentional or not) that I have to defend.

Now don't get me wrong, I am very pleased with how I look and feel these days, and don't feel I need to lose nor gain any weight. Right now this is just an observation that *may* be a concern *if* I get under 110 or 105 (which honestly I think is very unlikely). I just sorta wonder sometimes if I would feel the need defend a 100-105 range if I ever got there?

I dunno. We'll cross that bridge if we ever come to it. In the meantime, whoo-hoo, LOL

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Original Thread:

11 hours ago, ms.sss said:

Ok - So I actually wrote this on another thread just now, but I thought maybe it would be more relevant/appropriate here. @FluffyChix and I were discussing barbie dream goal weights on the thread and I had some DEEP THOUGHTS hahahahahaha....

P.S. see link below if you are interested in reading it in context

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OK, so I noticed a behavioural pattern in me that I sort of see in others as well, based on their posts/comments/etc that I have read.

So I remember when I was at 127 lbs I was of the opinion that I was way too small and was adamant I did not want to lose any more, and I wanted to maintain in the 125-130 range.

Then I got under 125. Something in me changed and I mentally switched my maintain range to 120-125.

During my attempts to transition into maintenance, I got under 120. Not surprisingly, my chosen maintain range became 115-120. If I got near too near 120, I would buckle down to get closer to 117.5

Fast forward to today and for some reason or another, I got under 115. I've been under 115 for about a month now. Now even though I am now 10-15 lbs below what I thought was too small way back then, I find myself getting lowkey concerned when I get closer to 115! I mean, for the past couple days I have been like 3-4 ounces within 115 and I find myself watching my food choices more closely.

Its as if each new 5 lbs loss increment becomes the new standard (despite it being intentional or not) that I have to defend.

Now don't get me wrong, I am very pleased with how I look and feel these days, and don't feel I need to lose nor gain any weight. Right now this is just an observation that *may* be a concern *if* I get under 110 or 105 (which honestly I think is very unlikely). I just sorta wonder sometimes if I would feel the need defend a 100-105 range if I ever got there?

I dunno. We'll cross that bridge if we ever come to it. In the meantime, whoo-hoo, LOL

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Original Thread:

I felt the need to defend my weight loss. It’s work getting to goal. I was preparing for the 10+ weight bounce, fear of regain, and the scale affected how I feel about myself. I felt great when the scale was at its lowest. I felt like I failed this process with a slight gain.

It has taken years to work out some of these things. We all have our own battles.

You are doing great.

1 hour ago, Katanaya77 said:

I’m 3 weeks post op only lost 19 lbs and on purée stage. I feel eating 4 oz of purée doesn’t seem to be enough. I’m calculating 2 oz of Protein and 2 oz of veggies with broth. I still felt hungry so also added 1 oz of cottage cheese.< br /> But Why am I still hungry? I sometimes think if it’s not working. Does anyone have any suggestions?

3 weeks and 19 pounds is fantastic.

All instructions are different, what does your plan say for puree stage? Are you hitting your Protein goal for the day? Do you log your food in an app?

My instructions are five years old. I was told to get in 60 to 100 grams of protein. I had to use a combination of Protein Shakes and pureed food to hit my protein goal. Hunger was more manageable as I progressed to real food stage.

11/10/2019

1373 calories 105 Protein 113 carbs 60 fats 38 sugar.

Breakfast

• 1.5 cup Fat free cottage cheese
• 2 oz Red grapefruit

lunch

• 1 Ranch tuna packet
• 3.3 oz Sugar snap peas
• 3 oz Hummus

dinner ( Two sittings to get the amount of food in)

• 5 slices turkey pepperoni
• 10 each turkey meatballs
• .3 Elephant garlic
• 1 oz Onion
• 3 oz Tri colored bel peppers
• 2.3 oz Ready cut diced tomatoes
• 5 oz Four cheese spaghetti sauce
• 12 oz Zucchini noodles

snack

• 8 Hershey’s Mr. good bar minis

On 11/10/2019 at 8:50 AM, FluffyChix said:

Love your menu! Glad you're here posting with us!!!

Is this a maintenance menu or are you trying to come down within your window? Looks fabulous!!!

I eat mainly healthy. I balance it with not so healthy food days. If I have a slight gain, I eat my weight loss calories. Still maintaining my weight bounce up and down the scale.

Maintaining female 5’5’ sleeve five years out maintaining in the 130’s BMI 23

Friday Nov 8^th

11oz egg whites

1.3 cups power greens

.5 tablespoon Cocavo oil

2 cups coffee Splenda with fiber 1 cup unsweetened cashew milk

3oz Spring salad mix

4oz chicken breast

5.5 med sliced strawberries

1 oz Candied pecans

1 oz Blue cheese 1.5oz

1 oz Raspberry vinaigrette dressing

1 Dannon light n fit yogurt

3 oz Sugar snap peas and 2oz classic hummus

1074 calories 104 Protein 59 carbs 50 fats

Nov 9^th

11oz Egg whites

1 cup Power greens

.5 tablespoon Cocavo oil

1 order Taco omelet (restaurant)

3.9 oz Smoked salmon

3 oz 50/50 spring mix

3 oz Sugar snap peas 2 oz hummus

1265 calories 103 protein 41 carbs 75 fats

@theexfatgirl

Most members will be supportive. No need to respond to posts you perceive as negative or trolling. Take what’s useful and ignore the rest.😊

1 hour ago, AZhiker said:

I rode 40+ miles on my bike today. I did great with my Water and my RX bars, but I was hungry afterward, no suprise. My car tire got a flat and I had to wait over 2 hours at Discount Tire to get it fixed. Anyway, I walked to Chik Filet and got a healthy lunch. Great. Got my car back and THEN drove through McDonalds and got a LARGE fry!!!! I ate it all, wishing there was more salt. (Clue.) And now I am sick. My tum really hurts and feel like throwing up. Remorse, remorse, remorse. Looking back, it wasn't hunger - it was salt. So lesson learned - I need to use some electrolytes on longer rides. But oh how it makes me sad to see how easily I just drove through and got those fries. More head work to do.

Woohoo congrats on the 40-mile ride. Celebrate big once you feel better. Lesson learned. *smile* NUUN tabs are my saving grace for electrolytes/hydration.

13 hours ago, Elisibeth777 said:

Hey there. So today I did my first weight in after being 1 week post op, and I weighted myself and only lost 2.2 pounds. Literally everyone I’ve seen or heard about looses 6-20 the first week...what’s going on with me?

i follow my instructions. I have 60-70 G Protein, about 400 cal and 2-7 carbs. Water is on average 30-45 oz.

im extremely confused of why I didn’t lose any weight...help!!!

It’s only been a week. You are doing fantastic. Let your body heal from surgery.

Trust the process and focus on working your plan. Never compare your weight loss with anyone else. It will make you crazy. Some lose slowly and others quickly. All that matters, is the fact you are losing weight, not the speed.

25 minutes ago, Emma809 said:

I have a wierd feeling after i get better and all this has pass.... I feel im going to need new friends... cuz not alot of people understand what your going thru ...all i keep hearing ..OH UR GOING TO BE SKINNY ... OH UR NOT GOING TO EAT NOTHING ANYMORE....

so im a bit sick of hearing this.... Has anyone expierence this in there current life?

or am i over thinking🤷🏽‍♀️

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Emma this is going to be a strange ride.

Keep supportive people around you and decide what relationships need to be distanced or cut off. Weight loss may end up being a topic for a while in your social circles. The good news, once your weight loss settles and the shock of your loss is over. Life becomes normal. people just except this as you.

17 minutes ago, theexfatgirl said:

I am 8 days post op and I’m over it!!! I haven’t been getting in my Protein. I am craving food and can’t eat crap. For all of this I would rather stay fat!

Sorry you are struggling. Many of us had buyer’s remorse right after surgery. This is a big adjustment.

Your new stomach is healing. At first, it’s hard to get your Protein and Water in. It gets easier over time. Hunger is real in the first stages. I was angry about seeing food commercials and anyone eating real food around me. Hunger is more manageable as you progress to real food.

Congratulations on your surgery.

On 11/6/2019 at 4:30 AM, GreenTealael said:

Also I would LOVE to see threads where people who need/want revisions and don't have medical complications explain how they were able to get it done.

Too often you see GERD + weight gain = revisions but not everyone develops reflux and regains. It can be either/or/none.

What about the percentage of patients with no issues at all and the band/sleeve/etc just wasnt very effective on them. Or start at a very high weight with the sleeve then need to go on to the DS/SIPS.

I think that could help others see that sometimes is no just about you doing everything right or wrong

I’m glad we have the revision forum. Is it addressing some of the things you listed?

8 hours ago, sillykitty said:

I've been thinking a lot about BMR, and why I maintain on higher cals, while others maintain on so much less. There is nothing special about me that I should be such an outlier. I'm not particularly muscular, barley active at all. I got to be MO not by any extreme type of binge eating, just your typical eating too much & too poorly.

Just an idea ... but those that maintain on sub 1500 cals, do you think it is possible you could maintain at higher cals? Is your body just at a set point, and it's staying stable because you don't have much more fat to lose? Have anyone flexed their cals up, gotten past an initial bounce, and then seen the scale go back down?

This is a small, self selecting subsection here on BP. In general we are here because we are more dedicated, and compliant than your average WLS patient, IMO. Is there a whole other world out there of WLS patients not tracking and eating freely, and maintaining at whatever weight they are comfortable with? Or even some on BP who don't post about their diet because their experience is different than most everything they read here?

Also, this is considered metabolic surgery, right? Part of the science behind it is it is a positive metabolic affect.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/well/why-weight-loss-surgery-works-when-diets-dont.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3920787/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140326142209.htm

http://clinchem.aaccjnls.org/content/64/1/72

https://www.nature.com/news/weight-loss-surgery-a-gut-wrenching-question-1.15560

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/12/7/16587316/bariatric-surgery-weight-loss-lap-band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rPoeYfOm8I

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5485884/

So .. I'm not sure what to make of all this, just that I can't be all alone .... right??

I wish I could consume more calories with how much I exercise. First two years, I maintained with little effort around 1500/1800 calories. Third year, things changed. The calories that once worked I had to dial back. The scale does not go back down when I increase calories.

I wonder how people maintain with ease (not logging and eating freely) I will always have to be mindful of eating healthy without being obsessive. It’s my personal maintaining battle.

Is there anyone afraid to post about their diet? I’m afraid of misleading or derailing someone’s progress.