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I did have to meet with a nutritionist. Once a week for nine weeks and you're right, they mentioned protein for various reasons. To stave off hunger, to keep muscle tone and hair when losing, etc... and there is a certain amount of protein in what I take in, just not 60 grams (or close to it). I think I blocked a lot of that out because truthfully I tried some of the protein drinks prior to surgery and they nauseated me. But I know there are unflavored powders and things I can do to doctor them up, I guess I was kinda just hoping that a little more "magic" would have happened to me in these initial stages.

I'm not doing anything special to particularly ADD Protein to my diet. I thought it was just to stave off hunger as opposed to assist in weightloss and since I'm not really hungry per se, I thought I'd let it go. :car: my bad! I'll try some protein powders or drinks and see if that kicks the weightloss into gear.

I was banded on the 23rd of August and recently started on full liquids (well it's been about a week). After three weeks of nothing but liquids (two clear and one full), I have actually only lost 4 pounds. I would have assumed that by the sheer drop in calories alone I would have reamed out more water weight than that. My body seems to be clinging like grim death to every pound. I mean I know that these initial healing stages aren't accurate weight loss stages because we take out water weight at first and then when we start back on real food we will more than likely gain some of the weight back at first, but has anyone ever had this problem? I am seriously NOT cheating, I am not taking in anything particularly high in calories (skim milk, the broth from vegetable soups and lots of Crystal Lite and water), so I am a bit baffled as to why I haven't dropped at least a couple more pounds. :help:

O.K. the fact that you keep trying to make me look bad by saying I have this variety of identities is a complete falsehood on your part (the only one who has lied in our back and forth banters). I was banded on the 23rd of August by a U.S. doctor, so who is this "special Mexican" doctor that I am supposedly trying to drum up business for? I haven't even posted my doctors name yet, but maybe BubbleButt can tell everyone who he is. I am newly registered today because I am just barely recovering from trying to live on liquids for the past few weeks and thought I'd see what people who were banded in other places might be going through. I have no particular doctor to push because I can only tell you the stats of MY doctor, I wasn't banded by anyone else but him. He hasn't done any of the horrific things I read that American doctors supposedly do, and he has seen me every week since my banding, so I have no neglect stories either. I am one registered person on this forum Carin Bradley, banded by and American doctor, and haven't been to Mexico since 1978, so take what you will from that.

I don't know where you assume that I have already proven myself to be a liar, not one thing I have stated on here has been a lie. I just can't stand blowhards who think it is THEIR way or it's wrong! TO EVERYONE ELSE : Mexico, U.S., Canada, Australia - wherever you are banded, look for the best doctor you can afford, one that YOU are comfortable with, and let the final decision be in your own heart. Don't let anonymous strangers on a board convince you that one doctor is better than another, if you read something that sounds farfetched or outrageous, check it out yourself if it concerns you. If not, just ignore it and move on. Carin

As for banding a 12 year old child that is a bold face lie. He has banded a teenager. So has Canada, your point? The girl was about 200 lbs overweight, she had the complete and total support of her family, her therapist, her primary care physician, and her endocrinologist. All US medical providers, btw. Who are you to say that all of them are wrong and YOU are right when YOU don't even know the people involved? THIS is a bold face lie. I DO KNOW THE GIRL INVOLVED !!! The girl WAS 12 years old, she was No where near 200 pounds OVER her desired weight (she weighed 235 lbs) and as far as all that crap about the support of her therapist and garbage, she had no therapist, no endocrinologist, her single mother (never knew her father) even told us that her primary care physician said she was crazy to even consider it before her daughter was at least 14. When she took her daughter to the ER a few months after banding suffering from pancreatis, the doctors ther told her she was insane to have her child banded at all, much less in Mexico, and again - her PC agreed with them. Again, you are wrong!

Look Bubblebutt - I am NOT any other person. I am a newly AMERICAN banded person who came here to get some insight from various types of other people. I have seen you before on other forums, but you are such a Blowhard that I just ignore your constant rambling. You think there aren't more people in this world that you annoy besides "My Lapband"??? I got news for you, I'm sure that is a forum within itself. STOP TELLING PEOPLE I AM SOMEONE ELSE !!! Check out my stats, my picture, and my information before you make blanket accusations. By the way, prove you are real with a picture. You won't do it will you? Carin

I don't know who the other people are and frankly - my boss??? I was banded in the states, which is how I know for a fact that the lies you spout about American doctors are ridiculous. I am not sure what you are talking about or who you are referring to, but MY doctor doesn't need "shills" on these forums. He's a U.S. well respected bariatric surgeon for many years and as a matter of fact - he knows Dr. Aceves! I know who you are on Dr. Aceves forum and I know who you are here. I also know there are no pictures of you on either place and nothing brings you back to reality like the fact that you are everywhere Dr. Aceves needs advertising. Dr. Aceves has a Patient Referral PAID plan with his people - DENY IT and I'll show the literature contradicting that. All I was saying is that he is NOT the god you make him out to be, he has errors on his record and frankly I've said it before and I'll say it again - If you pay him, he will perform the surgery REGARDLESS!!! Ask the 12 year old child, the woman who had only 30 pounds to lose before she was at medically perfect weight, etc... These are patients no self respecting American doctor would touch and with very good reason. Not because they couldn't handle the surgery (and only the great and powerful Aceves can), but because they are surgeries that NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PERFORMED!

This whole thread kinda made me smile. I agree with all of you that society views the overweight as jokes, that movies portray the portly as lazy, stupid, and ALWAYS looking for a meal, and that it is very different for a fat man then it is for a fat woman, but truthfully that's life. Right now I AM the woman in public who gets the stares, snickers, out-right insults, and looks of pity from others. I have grown to expect it, however, I can not bring myself to not feel it so to speak. I am the one that you "somewhat overweight, but not morbidly obese" women find when you've looked around the room to see someone fatter than you for self-comfort. For some strange reason, it seems inherent in all people. I wish we really could see others for the beauty they posses inside rather than what they look like outside, but that is never going to happen so given the world in which we live, I guess we will all have to make do the best we can. If "Fat Movies" bother you and people around you are rude about your weight, try not to let it affect your mood. Let's just try and be the best PEOPLE we can and hope the rest falls into place.

LAUREND : I don't know if "B A looser and mylap-band" are the same people or not. I can tell you that BubbleButt is a blowhard on another forum too. Quoting erroneous stats and spouting ridiculous claims. And as far as accusing people of being a patient cordinator or not, ask BubbleButt who has been in Dr. Aceves operating room with him, who often takes patients to the hospital, and who many times accompanies people to surgery for Dr. Aceves? She will volunteer this service in a heart beat on Dr. Aceves board so, if anyone can claim "patient cordinator" or "marketing rep", I would say it was her.

mbeckett1 : It's not the sharing of good experiences that is slightly annoying, it's the skewing of facts. No doctor is perfect and no doctor is THE ONLY way to go. BubbleButt has a history of bashing American doctors on another forum too, by stating "so-called" facts that are in essence untrue. In the beginning of this thread the question was posed as to "Why Mexico", and basically the real answer to that is the cost factor. Nobody would travel across the country to a foreign land for a medical procedure that they could have in their own backyard for the same cost. And to answer "because doctors in America are ALL uncaring, money-grubbing, incompetents" is not only wrong, but slightly annoying. I guarantee that every Mexican doctor that performs any type of elective surgery (of which lapbanding is considered) does it for the money not because he is on some mission from God.

This Is For BubbleButt <p>You push Dr. Aceves on his board too. Your stats on U.S. doctors are completely erroneous. The doctors in the states do not shove you out the door the day after surgery (my doctor's standard is to watch you for 2 to 3 days following surgery - IN THE HOSPITAL), the lapband surgeons in the states ALSO offer free fills for life and you don't have to pay the so-called "operating room / flouro" costs (free truly means free it doesn't mean $80.00 to $110.00 plus the cost of airfare and a possible hotel room stay for East coasters), and unlike Dr. Aceves, U.S. doctors do not perform 8 to 10 bariatric surgeries a day. Just because you CAN do assembly line surgery, doesn't mean you should! I have also not found a single person that Dr. Aceves has turned down for surgery. Not because he is an almighty god of lapbands who can make anyone a success, but because if you pay him, he will perform! Truthfully do you think absolutely EVERYBODY should undergo a major surgery regardless of their age or medical background? Dr. Aceves (according to his own people) has done lapband surgery on everything from a 12 year old child to a 60-something year old, 400lb+ woman so riddled with risks that several out-of-country doctors wouldn't take the chance on her (not even if she paid). This is why U.S. doctors have a different standard to follow.</p> <p>Lots of people have had success with Dr. Aceves surgery, but lots of people have had problems, it just doesn't get reported.</p>