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Yup. This.

The vegan protein powders are not too good. I am not an ice cream/milkshake/special drink fan by nature and used to exclusively drink Water (of course, now when I am meant to be drinking tons of water, it is the one food that really makes me feel sick if I drink it unflavoured)- even now I drink water with a tiny squirt of flavor. It has to be ice cold as well or I can drink it, so Starbux and I are well acquainted- my favorite drink is the passion tango ice tea with extra ice, unsweetened... You say 2-12 months- after 2-12 months, do you cut back on eating so much protein? The one part of the sleeve that worried me most before doing surgery, and still worries me now, is all the protein I am meant to eat. I know there are plant-based sources, but honestly, a cup of lentils cooked is a really big portion and still only equals 18g. I am thinking about figuring out protein content in my nut burgers and trying to scarf them down once I get back to my own space. Thankfully, carbs used to be my vice but they make me extremely sick now. I have basically given up bread and pasta was never my favourite food anyway (it is hard being vegan and a super picky eater).

Just to be clear- I re-read the thread that upset me. It really wasn't that bad.. I think that the problem is that we simply don't know where a persons headspace is at when they are writing their message of help- if someone is in a really bad headspace, by giving constructive criticism someone could be really hurt by the comments... I was really hurt then, but if I saw it now after posting a comment I would not be. My feeling is that if someone is really new, and just a week or two out of surgery, I would have preferred a gentler hand. Once someone is 2-3 months out, bring on the toughness

Thanks everyone! I hope it goes away soon cause it is super unpleasant.

I am vegan and currently not in a place where I have access to a kitchen of my own (I am a teacher and work in different camps throughout the summer). I am not eating all that badly- just not eating enough of the good stuff that I should be eating.. I eat mostly vegetables (my favourite food) with some fruit thrown in here and a little snacking. I obviously plan to completely cut out the snacking as soon as I am in my own space, but for now since I can't eat the kiddie food that is made at the camps (think white rice, white Pasta, fries, tortellini, grilled cheese etc) I am doing the best I can. I also try to engage in very clean eating, but I am not exactly sure how that is possible after the sleeve. My question is two-fold: 1) If i "miss" the honeymoon phase (how long does it last btw), can I still take off weight afterwards? I am not slowing down weight loss yet, thank god, but I know it will come and I am worried because these 2 months I probably could have lost more had I been in my own space. 2) I hate all added Protein things (shakes, bars etc), and I have really bad dumping syndrome when I eat any kind of carbs. To that end, I want to know if it is more important for me to force down protein-plus pasta and tofu or if vegetables and fruit (that I prefer) are more important? I really cannot eat both. I lied- here are a few more questions. 3) I had two doctors, and I did surgery in Israel. They did not give out different papers to men and women- what is the absolute minimum protein amount I should be eating (and can get away with)? 4) My dr told me 6 small meals a day. I am continuously reading latest updates and everyone says 3 meals a day. 5) If I am only to eat 3 meals a day, and avoid snacking between meals, and protein is most important, when does that leave room for fruits and vegetables?

I did not mean to offend- I am simply pointing out that until someone has walked a mile in someones shows, you cannot judge them. What is simple for you might not be simple for me and vice versa. If you are supportive and say move on, then I wish you had been the one to see my post when I needed help My point is- if someone is really worried they ruined their sleeve, instead of turning them into a joke or berating them, wouldn't it be nicer if the community gently explained what they did wrong and offered help instead of screaming down at them when they clearly already feel bad enough? I know I only have 12 posts btw, but I lurk a lot. I am only 2.5 months out, so what use can I really be as of yet?

I am vegan and do not like any of the Protein shakes I have tried. I am wondering what the absolute minimum required amount of protein is daily? Thanks!

I just want to say that some of you are REALLY judgemental. Everyone has a different journey, everyone has different experiences. Here is what happened to me: I did surgery at a private hospital in Israel. All my instructions were given out in google-translated English and we did not need 6 months prior counseling, nor did we need a liquid diet, nor did I need to meet with a psychiatrist. I had exactly one meeting with a NUT who barely spoke English. None of these were really a downfall however, and thankfully I have managed to lose a significant amount of weight. What I did struggle with, however, was that about 4-5 days after coming home (I have three kids) everyone was stuffing their face and having a party. And I ate exactly one tiny pretzel that I chewed into pieces. And you know what? It didn't hurt, it tasted good and I was fine.. What happened next was not OK though- I really was panicked that my sleeve wasn't working, or I had ruined it. I NEEDED support desperately from people who had BTDT, and I made the mistake of posting on here. I got exactly one piece of support and the rest ridiculed/ derided/mocked or basically told me how stupid I was for doing so. Ummmm people f**k up- didn't many of us screw up somewhere to be in need of surgery to begin with? I think this board is great for questions, but you know what? Sometimes people make mistakes. And need support for those mistakes, not to be ridiculed or made fun of or be called out for being stupid. Had someone said to me back then- "you know, you shouldn't have eaten it, but you haven't ruined your sleeve- PM me if you need to talk in future" that would have done a lot more for my self-esteem and support through the process than all the people who told me I was dumb and I shouldn't have done surgery to begin with etc.. etc.. It is HARD to have little kids who wander round with food and not feel inclined to touch any of it despite having basically been on a fast for at least a week prior. It is HARD to make dinner and smell something yummy and not touch it. Yes, you should realise all thise before you do surgery, but realising something and living it are two very different things. And, quite frankly, if you cannot be in a place to give constructive support to someone who is likely going through a really low point in their lives, look away and move on. Don't mock or deride- keep it in your head or write it on a private chat or FB status. Those of us who feel like we failed at some point need help, not more mocking thrown their way. To be clear- I am in no way advocating someone to stuff their faces right after surgery - or any point ever after surgery (I am one of the very few who suffers/ed from dumping syndrome after the sleeve) or eat stuff they shouldn't. I am just askign that people on this board be gentle and kind to people who have made a mistake. If you want to be supportive- help them get back on the right track in a kind way.

There is no polite way to say this. I think I am experiencing labial chafing! I have lost a LOT of weight in the past year of so and since wearing smaller clothes, I think all my clothes are rubbing on the extra skin near the vaginal/ labial area. I have tried wearing looser clothes, but eventually pants etc do start rubbing, I wear pantiliners daily and I have tried every OTC remedy known to man (inc gold bond- don't try it- it is painful!!). Anyone else experience this? Aside from vaginoplasty, what did you do? Thanks!!

Got sleeved on may 8th and was doing fine on clear liquid. Today I had really really bad head hunger and managed to eat two pretzels by chewing them down to nothing and swallowing slowly. Does this mean my sleeve hasn't or won't work? I know I am not really hungry but it scares me that I could eat solid food with no problems. Truthfully it was harder for me to eat soup and jello than pretzels ground into nothing.. Have I screwed myself already? I am really upset

Everyone talks about being x-days post op. If I had surgery on Thursday, is surgery day day 1? Or is it actual days post-op, i.e. today would be 3 days post-op, not 4 days post-op?

I'm sleeved! Feeling OK but nauseous from not eating and I have a drain and it's pretty painful. On the whole feeling good though....

Tomorrow!!!!!!! Nervous and excited!!

@@msryan i am going in tomorrow (may 8th) as well! would you like to be WLS buddies with me?