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Yes.. I feel fine. I do not feel sick at all after eating. I am getting in my Protein first and making sure if I do eat any carbs they are always paired with a Protein like I was taught in nutrition class. I lost 13 lbs on pre op diet and another 10lbs since surgery (exactly 3 weeks ago today) for a total of 23 lbs. I was just wondering why others are not able to eat much at this point and was wondering if I just have some Iron clad stomach or something. Thanks for your feedback.

Are you still losing? Are you getting sick after you eat?
If you are still losing and not making yourself sick, I wouldn't worry.
If you're following your doctor's orders, it sounds like you're doing fine.
Yes, you can eat a little more than some, but that's okay. Everyone is different. You're still obviously not eating anywhere close to the amount you were able to pre-sleeve, right?
If you're REALLY worried about it - call your doc and see what he says. But really, sounds to me like you're doing okay. I am a little surprised at how quick you're on full solids - but if it's not bothering you and you're doc's okay with it - then you're fine!

oh please.

If it helps (it may not), my WLS center food advancement plan:

1. Clear liquid- day 1
2. liquids (Protein shakes, Soups, etc)- week 1-3
3. Purée- week 4-5
4. Solids - after week 5

I did liquids (phase 2) until solid phase (skipped purée). After week 5, my solids were 2-3 ounces of soft food like salmon. It wasn't until month two that I could eat chicken and pork (still in 1-3 oz quantities). Hamburger and beef did not happen successfully until month 5 (tried a few times after month 3, but it did not work). The nut recommended we get used to eating 1/3 a cup or 3 oz of food a meal at least for 6 months. That is about how much I could eat, but I measured almost every meal. After 6 months, I started to eat more and more. Today at 19 months, I still can only manage 3-4 oz of chicken, but I can eat more of non dense food like salad, chili and the like. Yet I am not eating based on fullness, but satisfaction. It takes a few months to be able to read your body to get an intuition about satisfaction versus edge of fullness. I made a deliberate decision to not eat sliders, extra carbs, starches, etc during the first 6 months to maximize weight loss. And it worked. I lost 100% in 7 months (180 #). Today it is really easy to eat just enough to satisfy, but it took quite a few months to build these habits. These are just some thoughts for your consideration.

No it really doesn't help b/c that is YOUR surgeons recommendations NOT mine. My original question was not how to advance my diet. I was cleared for a soft diet ONE week post op and doing just fine. Thanks anyway.

But seriously, is a burrito considered soft? I would consider that regular food.

this forum is becoming a joke.... a lot of ppl who think they know it all. I am sorry I posted a simple question that yielded a lot of off the topic responses.

You keep saying people are off topic when they're answering YOUR question. Also, I think you should go reread all your posts. Your posts are always very know it all. We're all new to this, including you. Being rude when you don't like people's answers to your questions isn't going to do you any favors in the future.

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this forum is becoming a joke.... a lot of ppl who think they know it all. I am sorry I posted a simple question that yielded a lot of off the topic responses.

You keep saying people are off topic when they're answering YOUR question. Also, I think you should go reread all your posts. Your posts are always very know it all. We're all new to this, including you. Being rude when you don't like people's answers to your questions isn't going to do you any favors in the future.

You people need reading comprehension. I was asking if others were able to tolerate this much food so early. I don't need someone telling me that everything I am doing is wrong and I am going to stretch my sleeve yada yada. Those are comments for a bariatric surgeon (MINE) to decide.

Thank you Yazzy and Abarta! That helps a lot and thank you for answering the question at hand. )

Rudeness probably won't make you a lot of friends. We are all in the same boat and these threads are known to vary widely. A polite response will get you a lot farther than ALL OF THIS internet yelling.

Maybe just appreciate that people are concerned over your well being.

this forum is becoming a joke.... a lot of ppl who think they know it all. I am sorry I posted a simple question that yielded a lot of off the topic responses.

I would also say that that is a lot of food for that far out. You stomach is still healing and may not be sending you the signals to stop eating fast enough. At three weeks, when I was told to progress with soft foods, I could barely eat one slice of lunch meat with one slice of cheese rolled up.

I'm sure you trust your doctor and that's why you chose them but I would be concerned that they are allowing you to eat all of those things so early out when 99% if us were not allowed to do that. If you are able to eat that much now, how much will you be able to eat at three, six, or nine months? What about at two years? The restriction will decrease over time and you don't want to get to a point where you lose that Portion Control you are looking for.

It never hurts to get a second opinion. And even though you may get lots of opinions on here, another bariatric surgeon may help answer your questions to the scientific extent we are not able to.

well maybe my sleeve is bigger, IDK. Maybe surgeons make sleeve smaller for those who have more than 100lbs to lose.

THE QUESTION WAS........ "wondering how ppl are doing few weeks out"

NOT... how do I advance my diet OR am I stretching my sleeve.

Please stick to the topic people. I don't need a doctor... I have one thank you very much.

If it helps (it may not), my WLS center food advancement plan:

1. Clear liquid- day 1

2. Liquids (protein shakes, Soups, etc)- week 1-3

3. Purée- week 4-5

4. Solids - after week 5

I did liquids (phase 2) until solid phase (skipped purée). After week 5, my solids were 2-3 ounces of soft food like salmon. It wasn't until month two that I could eat chicken and pork (still in 1-3 oz quantities). Hamburger and beef did not happen successfully until month 5 (tried a few times after month 3, but it did not work). The nut recommended we get used to eating 1/3 a cup or 3 oz of food a meal at least for 6 months. That is about how much I could eat, but I measured almost every meal. After 6 months, I started to eat more and more. Today at 19 months, I still can only manage 3-4 oz of chicken, but I can eat more of non dense food like salad, chili and the like. Yet I am not eating based on fullness, but satisfaction. It takes a few months to be able to read your body to get an intuition about satisfaction versus edge of fullness. I made a deliberate decision to not eat sliders, extra carbs, starches, etc during the first 6 months to maximize weight loss. And it worked. I lost 100% in 7 months (180 #). Today it is really easy to eat just enough to satisfy, but it took quite a few months to build these habits. These are just some thoughts for your consideration.

No it really doesn't help b/c that is YOUR surgeons recommendations NOT mine. My original question was not how to advance my diet. I was cleared for a soft diet ONE week post op and doing just fine. Thanks anyway.

Actually- yes, I would say that is a lot of food for a few weeks out. Maybe you need to force yourself to go through the food stages even though your sleeve appears to be far more advanced (and healed). This is not a criticism. Just a suggestion. If you forcibly slow down in the food advancement, you will have more time to lay a foundation that may. yield faster weight loss. What do you think? It is too bad your sleeve, unfortunately, is not helping you more. It means you need to be more in control in terms of measuring, limiting now instead of later when you must do it.

Well.. I will call doctor office tomorrow and see what they advise. Everyone here seems to get different instructions on how to advance their diet.

You, my dear, are incorrigible. Good luck with your new life. Sorry I tried to offer you some advice on a Bariatric Forum for people seeking ADVICE ABOUT BARIATRIC SURGERY.

Why thank you!

I also have seen you flip out on people on here as well. Don't ask questions if you don't want people's answers. We are not doctors. I made a suggestion to you. There is no need for you to react the way you are, and I also TOLD you that I did not mean it condescendingly. But please, you can act like I took a direct stab at you.

Based on the information I see you post, I simply made a comment saying its not normal. If it was, why would you be asking? I suggested a second opinion by another nut.

So calm down, and again; WE ARE NOT DOCTORS. We are simply a bunch of people going down the same road you are trying to help. If you don't want the help, DON'T ASK.

You call it 'flip out' I call it having an intellectual debate. If you can't offer something intellectual to say, DON'T REPLY.

I don't want to be rude, and please don't take it as if I am...

But I have seen your numerous posts about being 'normal' or if this or that is 'normal.' Every time you get the same reactions. I fully believe that this diet is slowly undoing what you wanted to accomplish.

It isn't a matter of 'starving' yourself if you are following the diet and getting the correct amount of supplements and vital minerals and Protein. You also have to weigh your food. Your stomach can only hold so much without being stretched now. The amount you are consuming is sure to be stretching it. It isn't a matter of healing faster. It is a matter of anatomy and the ideals of the surgery.

You can keep posting and asking if things are 'normal.' But honestly, no. None of what you are doing is normal. Talk to another nut or another doctor and get another opinion.

Again, I mean no offense. But someone just getting out of the hospital and being explained the severity of following a proper diet knows all of this. Best of luck.

Wait.. did you just say none of what I am doing is normal? What exactly are you referring too? The fact I am able to tolerate soft solid diet only 3 weeks out with MY doctors approval? I am following MY doctors advice to advance as tolerated... I am TOLERATING and I am able to eat 1/2 c of food.. perhaps a bit more without difficulty. I do not force it down and I stop when I feel restriction. Every meal I eat is packed with Protein rich food! Who are you to judge me and tell me what I am doing is wrong? You are welcome to offer an opinion but don't belittle me with your condescending comments. That was rude and uncalled for. Stick around sweetie and watch me melt.

Hi Belladonna,

I was sleeved on 2/4/14. I am on soft foods (also advanced a little early with NUT approval). I think I "could" eat what you are describing. I would say a third of a reg burrito is about 3/4 of a cup. That's about what I eat. I measure ounces/or scoop with a cup (1/2 or 3/4 depending). I have eaten 3/4 cup of butter Beans at a sitting, refried Beans I can do 3/4 cup, I eat 1/2 cup cottage cheese and am sure I could add some peaches if I wanted to. I measure honestly and don't know what "full" feels like, I don't think I've been full yet.

Tonight I went to Outback Steakhouse and ate about 2 to 3 ounces of salmon (guessing), and 3 or 4 broccoli crowns. I felt comfortable, probably took 45 minutes to eat it, went slow and really paid attention, didn't have any discomfort or issues with it.

I would say you are eating within the normal realm, but I haven't felt "full" yet and don't want to.

I'm with you, I want to get my calories up to at least 700... I am active and work out, I want to make sure I'm eating enough and don't want my body in starvation mode.

I don't think it's abnormal, but I would weigh and measure and track what you are eating and not rely in feeling full (that's just meet, but feeling full was something I liked in my former life, so I'm really trying to use this drastic tool, to get away from that.

Good luck girl, don't over stress it, listen to your body and listen to your Dr. I am doing fine with soft foods too.

That is great to hear!! I thought I was the only one. When I describe 'full' it is not the old fullness I used to feel. It is like I can feel a slight bit of restriction beginning to creep in and then I stop immediately. I am really afraid of what may happen if I force it past that 'feeling'. I could probably easily be eating 3/4 of a cup without a doubt. That is a heck of a lot less than I ever used to eat I know that much. Thanks for your feedback... that really is relieving to know that others also are tolerating a quick advance in the stages as well.

You know... I never wanted to go into this with the hopes to starve my body... that is so unhealthy. I want to desperately lose this weight just like everyone else. I have always incorporated healthy food in my diet.... I love GOOD food. My problem was always Portion Control. If something tasted good... I would eat til I was full and as you know... our old stomachs could hold a heck of a lot of food. I am happy I am eating like this, not getting sick and still losing the weight. I just want to have the great results as everyone else. I am obsessed with hitting onederland by summer BUT you know what... if I can eat healthy, portion controlled meals this early on and that means the weight will take longer to come off... I probably should consider it a blessing. Thanks for all your input. I am going to stop obsessing about rapid weight loss now and be grateful I am doing this well so soon.

They are running tests, a lot of the same tests you mentioned your friend having. It is extremely frustrating! I just want them to find out what's wrong!!!!

ME TOO! Her and I are both nurses and we talk about it all the time. Makes no sense but they did say they think there is a correlation to what is going on with her bypass.....especially the kidney stones. She actually got septic from the kidney stones which caused a massive UTI and it went systemic... landed her in the ICU. She has had consults with infectious disease, oncologists, rheumatologists, urologists... you name it. It is so frustrating that they can't figure this out. She was doing really good for about 3 months and just a few weeks ago she started feeling run down again and they ran blood work only to find her blood counts were all low again, white and red... they had to give her another Iron infusion.. matter of fact the day I had my sleeve. She came to see me after her infusions. They are sending her for more tests. I will add you to my friend list and email you if they come up with anything. Hang in there... I know its maddening. :/

Wait.. I cut the burrito in thirds... I didn't eat half at one sitting... it was a third of a regular sized burrito with finely chopped crab meat, black and refried Beans, low fat cheese salsa and guacamole. So essentially I ate 2/3 of the burrito today... my bad.

I was sleeved on 2/7. I'm on soft solid foods, but can incorporate flaky fish, Beans, some soft veggies, etc. So far I can eat with no issues. I don't know if I'd be able to eat that much, but am tolerating solids well. I'm tracking on MFP and getting in tons of Protein (one shake per day, plus food). I'm losing weight and feel great!

so you can't eat a 1/2 c at one sitting?

Wow, you are able to eat all that? I had my surgery 2/3/14 and am on the purée stage. Each stage last 2 weeks and went home on a full liquid diet.

when I had my one week follow up I told the P.A. I was tolerating full liquid. I told her what I was eating which was chunkier Soups put through a blender... she said

"that is more of a pureed diet" I asked if that was a problem and she said absolutely not... if my body is tolerating it I could even advance to soft... that is why at one week I was already eating a soft diet.

Do you have a dietician you can call?? I'm 3 weeks out, just had 2bites of mashed potatoes today and was satisfied

I'm not hungry... I eat to nourish my body. There is not enough nourishment in 2 bites of mashed potatoes. I eat plant Protein, legumes, lean Protein. I did not have this surgery to starve myself slim. I did it to guarantee I maintain Portion Control (that was my problem).

I am only eating 1/2 c of food at a time and I was instructed to advance my diet as tolerated. I stop eating the moment I feel the slightest bit of restriction and I eat healthy. Every meal is packed with Protein. Maybe I heal better than most? I don't know. I am wondering why I am able to tolerate these things so soon too. I do not get nauseous or vomit. Once in a while I experience a little heartburn but nothing long lasting or intolerable.

I want to know if anyone else can as well because I see a lot of ppl on pureed for a while. I am actually glad I feel this good and have lost 23 lbs since my pre op diet. I am not really hungry.

omg I felt the same way! I bought dips, hummus and they are still sitting in my fridge untouched. At least I have stuff to offer my guests

I hated that phase... I pretty much skipped over it once I knew I could tolerate it and jumped right into the 'soft' phase. Try getting some chunky Soups and putting them in the blender perhaps? I made my mom make me soups... put her to work she loves it.

I wish I could breeze thru it. But I was put in the hospital due to my stomach not accepting the new staples in it. It got so swollen that it rubbed against my pancreas and gave me severe pancreatitis. I was actually just discharged on friday. So I have to really take it easy on the pureed foods.

Oh no! That is no bueno. Yes... you better take it really easy as I am sure you still have a lot of inflammation and irritation not to mention the pancreatitis must have been no picnic either. Those soups in the blender were somewhat satisfying I wish you a speedy recovery. Feel better.

I tried shrimp already.... I ate about three as well, didn't sit well. I now take imitation crab meat and have to put it in my food processor. Anything I have to chew too much bothers..... makes sense... only 3 weeks out.

I am worried I won't lose as much because I can eat a decent amount already.

My best friend is 4 year post op gastric bypass. She is having the same thing.... fever of unknown origin... they did find some kidney stones and blood in her urine but her white cells drop and she becomes anemic requiring Iron infusions. It is a mystery to the docs. She has had a million different consults. She has been worked up for leukemia... rheumatoid arthritis, cancer, lupus.... so far everything has turned up negative. I am frustrated for her because she is a single mom with a toddler and a teen and has a stressful job. I wish these docs would figure out what is going on with her already.

omg I felt the same way! I bought dips, hummus and they are still sitting in my fridge untouched. At least I have stuff to offer my guests

I hated that phase... I pretty much skipped over it once I knew I could tolerate it and jumped right into the 'soft' phase. Try getting some chunky Soups and putting them in the blender perhaps? I made my mom make me soups... put her to work she loves it.

Hi Guys:

Just an example of what I ate today.

Breakfast was about 1/2 c. cottage cheese and peaches.

Lunch: one third of a crab and black bean/refried bean burrito... I added cheese, salsa and guacamole (burrito was baked in oven smothered in salsa so the tortilla was very soft)

Dinner: another third of that burrito

snack was greek yogurt

I feel like that is a lot.

I stop when I feel restriction but I was thinking I wouldn't be able to eat that much this soon.

Just wondering how other ppl are doing just a few weeks out. Thanks