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The point of the pre-op diet is to reduce the fat in your liver. Your body fat plays havoc with this organ and makes it heavy and brittle. When the doctor places the band he must first retract your liver to get to your stomach. If the liver is to big, or too brittle to move, your doctor will stop the surgery and you will wake up without a band - but with several scars and with a smaller bank account - or pissed off insurance that won't spend the money for another surgery if you want to try it again. Do the diet. >>>>this is what I was told and what scared me into being able to lose 40 pounds in about a month... (the above statement I mean.. I was self pay and NOT GOING was NOT an option and waking up with no band cuz my liver was too fat was NOT an option) I was told 40 to 60 pounds pre op loss OR ELSE and I was told 1 1/2 months before my surgery date.. I slacked for two weeks then I DID IT.. (LOW carb WORKS!) IF I could find that kind of motivation again.. THAT would be GREAT... although at the time I thought the band was going to be my salvation THUS the motivation... ended up not to be.. but I still have that 41 pounds off, plus more.. .. But I have never been able to 'diet' since to help myself lose weight I have been stalled for months on end.. loosing and gaining the same 20 pounds over and over. grrrr

Rachel, Thank you! (((hugs))) that made me feel good.. The band was not the best choice for me, but I was scared of the bypass and convinced myself that it would be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Thats exactly what I did.... Elis, thank you, I am trying not to sell my self short, and I am trying to make this band work for me... I do have about 85 pounds down right now, and I know I sound really silly to say thats its nothing..... but I would not do it all over again IF this is where it ends... SO, I hope this is NOT where it ends (although I have been stalled for half a year)................ :tea: <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

I usually have a hard time with it.. its weird cuz I can get othet things down that I would think would be worse. my band just dont like it.. I LOVE EASY MAC.!

for me personally, I mean it like I have an addiction to drinking sugar and thats impossible to do with the GB.. and very possible with the lapband.. I DONT know if I would do anything to sabotage the GB OR if The dumping syndrom and the impossible size of the stomach to withstand all the liquids I drink at a time, would be what I need to succeed, I THINk its what I need to succeed.. Its drastic.. its not the best, I KNOW that.. but I think it would of been best option FOR ME.. I dont think I am determined to fail.. But I am also not willing to 'do my part'.. obviouslly thats true when I DONT do my part.. I dont force anything past my band.... I dont have PB's and golf balls and all that.. I STOP when it feels the slightest bit weird and I call that "tight".. this fact makes me feel I am not being completely self destructive, but that I am still unable to control my junk food (candy and chips) and sugar liquids that I have been eating all my life.. even FOOD to me was sugar or junk (tomatoe Soup, nachos)... I almost never ate meals before.. anyway..

So what they're really saying is "morbidly obese people don't have the discipline to avoid milkshakes." :biggrin1: >>>>>>>>>>>>>some dont. or havent for 20 plus years..

My surgeon explained to me that just a few years ago, many MDs would not perform lapbanding on obese patients who were empty carbohydrate eaters. >>>> I agree with that. If LIKE me, I have always drank my calories and snacked all day long.. (A gallon of milk and juice a day or MORE....no joke) I am someone who does not think that GB is better than the Band BUT that the GB is what I needed in order to help me personally Its MY best choice... But I didnt realize that.. and now I have a band that doesnt 'work' for me.

I like fit day... I tried sparkle and I couldnt get the hang of it (I assume I am too used to fitday) (i do agree that fitday is hard to manage, man it took me forever to get used to it) but now sparkle spams me constantly.. I dont get any mail from fit day EVER. and I didnt like the messege boards on sparkle.. but its not liek I looked around a whole lot either.. I have not gave sparkle much time.. so I cant really compare.. This is just my first impression of them

SATURDAY Day 1 4 ounces 1% milk (with 2 chopped up vicodan) One slice of bacon (in two peices, 15 minutes apart) 4 ounces Jet tea smoothie (very diluted) one slice Cantalope One hamburger patty (at least 1/3 spit out) One ounce cheese 2TBS mayo some mustard 1/4 delite low carb pizza (2 servings) water (20 ounces. just tasted good with the pizza and FILLED me up too) crystal lite (about 6 ounces I was able to choke down) one serving 1/3 less frosted flakes (yes I am measuring) 1 cup 15 milk calories 1287 carb 92 fat 76 protein 40 Sunday two bites 1/3 less sugar frosted flakes and 1% milk (I craved it but I was too tight) Water with my pills (yeah me) 1 cup Chocolate milk (at a store buyin ice for the trip to the river, I drank half and gave the other half to a kid, it was 99cents.. I felt like I just HAD to have it..grr ) 3 hawiaan punch... full sugar kind (pretty DANG good for 9 hours at a river in 100 degree heat.. sorry but I am proud of myself here!) Tortilla chips (2 servings) and 1/2 cup dip (this was at the river.. I didnt have any hotdog/bun, only chips and dip for 9 hours) one serving cheetos.... (MY daughter left these in my car and I ate them on the way home after I had resisted the whole time at the river) one serving low carb pizza..(ate this at home around 10pm) 1 cup grape juice 1/3 less sugar (drank some before bed) Cal 1901 fat 72 carb 275 protein 20 MOnday 12 ounces 1% milk (AM wake up) (NEED TO get some SUNRISE crystal lite) 1 serving cheetos..(they were laying on the table.. and stale too) 3/4 serving tortillas chips. (craving carbs!) 1 ounce cheese (melted on chips) ketsup, sour cream 1tbs each 2 bacon and 2 eggs syrup....2tbs.....(trying to stay low carb and satisfy my "hunger") 16 ounces, grape juice.. 1/3 less (this was in drinks throughout the day) low carb pizza one serving With lots of water! (!!!!) 2 cup ovalteen with ice (I was going crazy and it totally worked to cal m me and I went to bed) cal 1617 fat 67 carb 164 protein 20 OK so I aint gonna lose 20 pounds by the fair! BUT I am really doing good (FOR ME.. NOT IN GENERAL!!)

wheetsen/ token atheist NO FAIR! lol Sorry I just noticed that.. loves

A VERY bitter nasty medication is prednisone and its liquid form prednisolone.. I CANNOT swallow it crushed or swallow the liquid ... I have tried and I vomit and gag and cry, yes, I literally cry.. Viccodan is nothing.. taste good compared to prednisone.. And I dont taste the Metformin at all. and I coulndt and cant go with out it.. I got injections for a long time when I was too tight for pills.. too tiny even to swallow them in tiny little bits.. IS there anything WORSE tasting than prenisone?? even when you swallow the pills they leave an after taste I have never experienced in all the meds I have ever tasted. I dont know what to tell you.. I was physically unable to keep any amount down that I needed... I dont like having to get shots..

I just wanna contribute that time release pills are NOT to be crushed, thats just common sense.. I dont care if a doctor says its ok or not.. when you crush them you destroy the time release and you get your whole dose at once. IF thats morphine or somthing.. it can kill you.. BE carefull what you crush! I take about 8 to 12 pills a day and I have had the band for 16 months and I dont crush and I dont think they stay in my pouch either.. I do chope them up though sometimes if I feel too tight.. (NOT the time released ones) Since I had the band I went from 6 vicodan a day to MAYBE two a day... I DONT know why.. I am not afffected any different on alcohal.. BUt something about how the medication sits in the pouch, ... MAY make sense.. I dunno?

the smart pop butter kind is 100 calories for 6 cups and 2 grams fat and 110 calories and 20 carbs I dont know what the lite kettle korn is.. CUZ WE DONT HAVE ANY! lol

So I eat a bunch of pizza.. the DELITE LOW carb kind... and I ask to look at the whole pizza after I am done and I ONLY ATE 1/4 of it.. THATS two servings.. according to the website.. WOW.. I think thats awesome.. I am FULL and saticefied!!!! I wonder how I am going to handle my late night candy cravings....... We will see.. I should take a valium and pass out and avoiud it all.. (if that worked, I would do it nightly) lol ........... FAIR FOOD! Yum.. (this IS the food thread) (meaning I am not so embarrassed to talk about food, lol) I get to go to the fair 4 days.. I have limited money and so me and my kids get one goody per day. I already choose mine.. Cheese blimp Ice cream cone from the dairy Elephant Ear ???????

they have it in a lite version thats really good... in case you didnt know.. I THOUGHT I bought two huge family packs of it, and I just looked at them and they are BUTTER flaver.. I dont know HOW that happened!??!! So my kids are putting butter on it.. geeeesh I get the lite KETTLE Korn for a reason! (cuz they like it how it is!)

one more thing.. once I got the good fill.. I didnt take it very seriously, becasue I was so used to NOT having that restrcition everyone was talking about.. I took two TINY pills of mine the morning after ... and I choked and gagged for 9 hours, then they came up WHOLE! (thats what is called a PB) for about 30 more hours I still couldnt hold down my own saliva after tons of antiinflaitories...I had tyo have an emergency unfill in the ER.. Thus I was right back to NOT having any restriction for a few more months. so... TAKE THE PILL CRUSHING SERIOUSLY!!!!!!! lol You will know restriction when you feel it, its very obvious.

just so you have a second on that, Its true! once home after about a week and a half, I could eat anything like I wasnt even banded. I never felt the band. I was told because I was so big to begin with (400 pounds) that I would prolly notive restriction right away.. But I didnt.. Not for months.. till I got a good fill... Its very common....

Happens to me every time! crazy

I just have to drop 20 pounds by Augest 7th, thats 16 days.. I have no idea how much I weigh.. but I know its NOT 320, I feel great at 320 and I think I am 15 to 20 pounds from that... The fair in my favorite town is Augest 8th and I want to go when I feel all great... I know it dont look any different to ANyone else.. But to me, it makes me feel like I have lost weight and that in turn makes me look better cuz I feel better... so I started my 'diet' yesterday and I totally messed it up.. so I am starting again today.. My history is that I do not suceed at my diets.. But sometimes I still lose weight, so here i Go its 3pm and I have not cheated yet.. this is MY diet.. and what I know works for me to lose weight, I am not ignorant of how to diet better, I am just doing what I can stick to. If I do my food log here, it makes me feel more responsible..??

I dont know if this helps.. but I have lost close to 100 pounds and I didnt excersize or follow the rules at all and have done a ton of things wrong and my band has only been filled "right" about 1/3 of the time I was banded.. So, imagine if I was a better bandster and had good fills!! I swear, if I can, anyone can!

I do the same thing and I have stopped loosing.. the band has done all it can for me... I have to diet now, if I want to lost any more weight... sucks, cuz I have always failed at that, but I am trying again... tomarrow, infact.. I want to lose 20 pounds by the first week of augest, for a fair.. Funny how being 320 or 340 makes such a big difference in me but it really does.. I will be doing low carb.. Sorry, I dont have any good advice.

plunder bunny, I am so jealous, I have tears.. ACTUALLY tears.. Ozzy is my all time favorite, for a long long time.. he is my god.. Our last ozzfest, he didnt show (washington) (i didnt go) Sometimes I think I will never see Ozzy at another ozzfest ever again.. and that makes me very very sad. I am shocked and amazed he did another one.. I havent even kept track lately.. (cuz I couldnt go (mobility) and I really thought he was gonna stop by now.. lol) and WOW, what a line up system and disturbed!!! wow wow wow!! my son just got an Avenged sevenfold tattoo.. one of the best line ups in some time! thanks for sharing!

I ignore this rule as well.. I have experimented with it alot and just dont see how it matters.. if I can drink, I will.. and it DOES not wash food down.. (not how I eat anyway) many times I CANT drink.. after eating.. you will know the minute you take a sip if you can or not (or you wont WANT to)

A twelve year old girl was banded the same time I was.. I thought that was great.. (I assume it was well thought out and she was very heavy and her health was at risk) The Doctor told me he didnt understand why people have a problem with banding at such a young age, he thinks its the best time.. I think I agree. Especially in this day and age with the Obesity epidemic.

Delarla, isnt eating way way too much (like you say you do and cant control) a really dangerous thing to do with the GB? I know it abuses the band and the stomach to do so, (I am talking in an extreem way) .... but wouldnt it be really scary to have that problem with the GB? My problem is almost the opposite,.. I really hate that full sick feeling.. and dont do it (like penni said about eating two hamburgers and fries (I would puke)... this is why I think the GB is a better option for me than the band... In penni's case, I think the band is a great option that worked and thought I dont know whats its like go throuh losing the band.. I think I would get rebanded .. I mean I personally would get the GB in a heartbeat if I could.,. (Dumping syndrome would set my butt straight!!! lol)