Madam Reverie

It shows an inquisitive and analytical mind. Nothing to apologise for! Welcome to the madness! x

Go get 'em, tiger. You will both do brilliantly and I'll be thinking of you all the way. Big hugs xxxxx

Dudes! I am so very proud of you all. But really? 'I ate some ice cream'. 'I ate some cheese goo on a cracker'. Damn, I was wanting to see 'Yeah, you know, I went to Crystals and ate 25 of their cheeseburgers. I washed this down with a large coke (through a straw), large fries and had apple pie for dessert'. You lot are positively saintly!!!! x

Your stomach is on your left, your gallbladder is on your right. I'm not saying it isn't related, but 5 days post op there are lots of twinges and things. What I will say though, is who advised you on your post op diet? Crackers and cheese certainly wasn't on my list. If you're feeling bad, you absolutely have to go back to your doctor and as soon as possible. I wish you the best of luck x

He surely did. My man has the most amazing... okay, wait, wrong website. Shall we get back to talking about bariatric dirty little secrets instead of deviating into my personal dirty little secrets?!!

LOL Who said that all men have hairy bums?!

If it was on a man, meh, I might consider it!

LOL erm, Lady, thanks for the offer, but you're not my 'flavour'! As for the PPI, I think it would be required, for sure. And Laura, be sure to get as much mileage out of this as you can. We all know you being in the 'world of right' doesn't happen very often! Muahaha

... I've licked a chip... In fact.. I'd lick anything right now if it had any flavour... Work surfaces.. windows...

In my defence.. I ain't no brainiac. I put it down to it being 02:17 UK time, being on a diet of fresh air and liquid (supplemented with a big bite of velvet cup cake and frosting) and frankly, I am so pig sick of the 'regulations' associated with this surgery, I even friggin' DREAM of Protein these days. If it starts with a 'P', it is now known as 'protein'. I need to get the hell out more. Seriously.

LOL That is funny. Shows how much attention I paid to the packaging! Nice catch.

LiptstickLady: You REBEL! Laura: Protein Pump Inhibitors are things like Omeprazole. They are basically like a nuclear version of Zantac. As for your Protein Bar fest?! lol love it. Least you could get it down! Jessica: You're more than welcome. There's no shame, we're all the same (as is said as the tagline on a rather disturbing program in the UK called 'Embarrassing Bodies'

Potatoes? Bad? Ask the Irish, they'll tell you whether a spud is bad for you.. And that would be a big fat no! As everyone has said - in moderation, it's all good in the hood

I'm day 8, too. Had pain on my left had side, exactly the same as yours. I find if you don't jiggle around too much, or stretch yourself out too far - particularly if you're laying on your front, it eases off. Don't panic, we're in the same boat and I have every belief that it's getting better every day... Keep at it

5ft 10, highest weight probably around the 265-270 mark. Surgery day weight 250 odd. I am 8 days out and to be honest, I haven't got a clue what I weigh! Huzzah!

I'm on the fluid portion of the segment..and my lord, I think I'd sell a kidney for a portion of that right now!!!

Holy cow! Have you lost 26.5lbs in under two weeks?!!! How did you do that?!! It's amazing!

What. In. The. World..... <Closes the door quietly as she leaves the room>

Every post-op diet is different. I was told by my Nutritionist 'clear fluids only for the first week-two weeks. I'll be sending you a post operative diet book shortly'. This never arrived and I received it the morning after my surgery. Which, when it did arrive, stated that in weeks 1-2, I could 'eat' (amongst the other usual suspects of fresh air and water): Creamed soups, Yoghurt, Protein shakes. As it stood and on morning one, the hospital delivered me natural yoghurt and jello (or jelly as we like to call it in the UK) for breakfast. So much for clear fluids for 1-2 weeks then?! Anyway and that aside. Because I was legitimately provided these things on day one, I have continued along that path, whilst consuming bottles of clear Isopure Zero to get my protein in. I find them rather boring to taste (we only get three flavours in the UK), but it's easy on the stomach and makes me feel like a good student for glugging my way through them. Pain meds are hideous and always require something to line the stomach first before ingestion to prevent all the usual nasties which can happen. How in gods name you were supposed to manage that on clear fluids and without any form of PPI or stomach lining protection, I don't know? As for eating the turkey? This is the way I see it. You're on your own and you haven't been guided particularly well. Although with reference to the pain meds on an empty stomach - you probably new this would be an issue pre-op and maybe should have asked some more probing questions for a definitive position? After all, most healthcare systems, irrespective of which nation it occurs in, couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery, so it falls to the patient to be annoyingly 'on top of it'. Which, after paying exorbitant amounts of money no one feels they should have to do, but however, they invariably end up doing, because the administrative coordination systems in these institutions are, for want of a better word, so crap, you need to end up effectively taking charge of your own healthcare. <minor rant over> So, you had a couple of slices of mashed up turkey in some broth and you chewed it like an obsessive?!?!??!! Did the world stop turning? No. Could you have hurt yourself? Yes. Will you do it again? Course not! (well, you might, if that's your food of choice in the mushie stage!). However, everyone can fully appreciate why you did it. Hell, if I'd had such a lack of medical clarity, cohesion and guidance in how I should approach things, I'd be making my own executive decisions, too! The way I see it; you spun the barrel in a Russian Roulette game of 'oh my god, I need protein, oh my god how am I going to get it? Maybe I should just eat some meat directly?' kind of thing. After one week of nothing but clear liquids and a bucket load of pain meds - no person, however well 'schooled' would be making the most cogent of decisions. That aside, you were lucky, you didn't sweat out and black out and vomit and are not (hopefully) experiencing abdominal pain, heart palpitations and all the other nasties that can happen. You spun the barrel and nothing was thankfully in the chamber. Consider one of your 9 bariatric lives lost and carry on with renewed vigor and determination! You can do it! As for me and to illustrate we're all human; I strayed waaaaay off the path last night. I had four teaspoons of mashed potato drowned in baked bean juice so it was like, well, soup. It tasted amazing and before I get a rollicking for the fact I'd eaten a carb in week one - I'd got permission from my bariatric nurse first - so there! <insert tongue poke out here> I often find that a lot of things on this site, particularly nuances, when posted in text, are lost in translation. This leaves the doors WIDE open to misinterpretation and people taking conversations off into completely different realms and tangents; making reference to things which aren't immediately relevant, you feel are not immediately warranted, or even on topic. Although it is annoying and you're left thinking 'WTF?!' Most of the time, it is well intentioned. Sift through the 'blah' (which is the majority of my posts) and look for the 'ahh - eureka!'. Either way and on this site, it's usually either the 'carrot' or the 'stick'. All valid, if you know how to detach your emotions and look at the information proffered critically and objectively. You'll be great and you'll do great. Put this behind you, grasp your own medical coordination by the balls and go get 'em, tiger! x

I don't like the tone of this thread, at all.... Whether intentional or not, the air is thick with self righteousness. <closes the door behind her>

I'm assuming you meant '4 days post op'? I have the same problem. I had my surgery a week ago today. It's almost like there's a narrowing of the entrance to the stomach and you can feel the vortex of Water, swilling it's way down slowly, but air gets in the way. The only thing I can suggest, which has partially worked for me, is to sit up very straight when you sip your water, give it a few seconds to hit your stomach and then a few seconds more for it to swirl its way through the narrowed entrance. After even more time and whilst remaining staunchly upright, try to do a gentle burp to release the air you've just created in your esophagus. Hope it works for you and best of luck x

Take very little. You won't need it. Best of luck with your operation

Oh I LOVE it. If it was me? Every time I went to the counter and something crass was said, I'd smile and say: 'Yes, it is a small portion. However, I am only here to take samples. Apparently there have been outbreaks of Helicobacter Pylori - suspected source - your salad. Campylobacter in your meat products and Salmonella enterica in your shellfish products. As a consequence, I am only here to repatriate a small amount to our labs for further testing and to determine whether your establishment needs to be shut down by the food Standards Agency. As a consequence, you're right, it is a small amount and there's no way on Gods green earth you'd catch me eating it! Have a nice day!' Go get 'em, tiger! x

I went to the loo and I had a pooooooooooooooooooooooo! Yippppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Take THAT morphine induced constipation! HUZZAH!

A-MAZ-ING!!!!!