Peggy 53

Totally and you are right food is " energy" ... That energy is expressed in how it's treated, grown, handled. We bring in that energy. No longer eating that food we detox, both physiologically and energetically. I think that is one if the reasons why after surgery, or possibly before, we feel so much better because we are no longer taking in negative energy

Hello. I have this theory about all the emotional ups and downs we go through as we lose weight. I work in the field of energy work (acupuncture, energy psychology) and I see it from that perspective. What if a lot of our craziness that we go through when we release the excess weight is emotions stored in the fat cells? In Eastern Medicine we feel that the body holds memories such as traumas and emotions. It makes a lot of sense to me that as we shed the fat, that all the emotions we stored in the fat while we ate under stressful, emotional and traumatic times are released. When I acknowledge that this is happening, it helps me to understand the emotional pain that is coming up to be released. It is so much easier for me when I don't feel like "There must be something wrong with me." or " Am I crazy?" Sure, there are other reasons for the emotions that arise during weight loss; blood sugar issues, hormones, etc., but the energy of whatever we were stuffing being released as the fat is released makes a lot of sense to me too. It helps to know we aren't crazy when things feel so intense, and that it will pass. (no pun intended) Can anyone relate to this too?

I am only on day 2 of my pre-op diet. The rules are as follows:
4-5 Carnation no sugar added Breakfast shakes
4-5 sugar free Popsicles/jello Snacks
Water
1 cup of milk per day
This adds up to just under 400 calories a day.
I have headaches and a STRONG desire to eat anything/everything in sight. I have also found that I'm exhausted despite sleeping all the time. I want so badly to have something salty. Could REALLY use some support.

Buy an electric blanket. I have a small one for my chair and another one on the bed. Problem is, I also have to share it with the cats!

You inspire!

I just adopted a 7yr old Maine Coon called "Oreo". She was my my friend's Mom's kitty and she can't care for her anymore. Oreo is very sweet and we love having her with us. We has two rescue dogs, Kirby a border collie mix, and Rocky, an abused mix who was a complete mess, transformed int a complete goofball. They both passed in the last 18 mos or so. Having a new kitty sort of fills in the empty space in our home.

That as the challenge. If the calories in- calories out theory were true we would all be skinny. The answer is metabolism. Yes- too few calories will stall weight loss, even if it's all Protein. Immediately post op it is normal to get in about 450-550 cals daily.... But that picks up as you heal. So how many grams of protein are you eating, what kind of carbs? Has the Doc checked thyroid, serum insulin and cortisol levels? You may have an underlying metabolic problem

You inspire!

You inspire!

You inspire!

I have to ask, if you refuse to do the things you listed, what changes are you willing to make after having approx 85% of your stomach removed? After the doctor does HIS part, and we wake up in recovery, the rest is up to us. We have after all, made a lifetime commitment. There is no end date.
I do all the things you listed and it does not feel like a diet, it makes ME feel in control for the first time in my adult life. Had I counted calories, had I been diligent 30 years ago, I might not have found myself sitting in the waiting room of a bariatric surgeon. I made 'healthy' choices, I thought I did, until my fitness pal told me differently, I didn't realize the calories some things contained. I believe it when they say we always underestimate when guessing at calories. You do not have to do what I do, but you must do something if you expect long term, forever success.

I'm in! I have yet to start exercise at 2 months , but it's time! It will be challenging as I have a conference to go to as well. I'm also going to commit to 60 miles of walking for the month. It's a big goal...but I'm going for it!

Surgery 8/28. Pre-op 229...DOS 221... Today 198.
I really need to get to the gym cuz clearly my metabolism is slow despite less than 800 cals / 60 gm Protein and 70 gm carbs daily. One day at a time. This is not a race. This is forever

I'm in! I have yet to start exercise at 2 months , but it's time! It will be challenging as I have a conference to go to as well. I'm also going to commit to 60 miles of walking for the month. It's a big goal...but I'm going for it!

I'm in! I have yet to start exercise at 2 months , but it's time! It will be challenging as I have a conference to go to as well. I'm also going to commit to 60 miles of walking for the month. It's a big goal...but I'm going for it!

I'm with Butter, Laura and GG..... While I'm only 2 months out, I still pretty stick to my eating plan, I enjoy good food. Went to Bahamas Breeze yesterday...had the fish tacos with a side of fresh fruit.... I just didn't eat the flour tortillas. Actually I couldn't have anyway cuz I was full. Didn't finish the fruit either. So many people I have talked with weight regain all have said that it just started with a bite of this and taste of that. It come down to knowing yourself. Your triggers. There are foods I love that I had to kiss goodbye forever, cuz I know one bite is not enough. There are other foods that I can be a be more moderate on, once I get to goal that is. For now, no way. My goal is GOAL. I'm not craving, jonesing , begging or pleading. I get up and make a good healthy plan. I'm not doing this again! 45 yrs of dieting is enough. I guess I just finally 'grew up' when it came to food and eating. I listen to the wisdom of the successful old timers...I'm with ya guys!

I'm with Butter, Laura and GG..... While I'm only 2 months out, I still pretty stick to my eating plan, I enjoy good food. Went to Bahamas Breeze yesterday...had the fish tacos with a side of fresh fruit.... I just didn't eat the flour tortillas. Actually I couldn't have anyway cuz I was full. Didn't finish the fruit either. So many people I have talked with weight regain all have said that it just started with a bite of this and taste of that. It come down to knowing yourself. Your triggers. There are foods I love that I had to kiss goodbye forever, cuz I know one bite is not enough. There are other foods that I can be a be more moderate on, once I get to goal that is. For now, no way. My goal is GOAL. I'm not craving, jonesing , begging or pleading. I get up and make a good healthy plan. I'm not doing this again! 45 yrs of dieting is enough. I guess I just finally 'grew up' when it came to food and eating. I listen to the wisdom of the successful old timers...I'm with ya guys!

Well, I was definitely a "everything in moderation" kind of girl. I got the sleeve to quit dieting. Yep, no counting calories for me, I wanted to be a "normal person". So, after about eighteen months out, I let myself have that cookie, or that half a bacon cheeseburger. After all, my tummy is still tiny and it would be impossible for me to gain weight again. Heck, how could having regular dressing instead of low fat on my salad possibly hurt me, I have a tiny tummy?
Well, let me share the truth with you. I thought and believed exactly everything you were saying. Heck, I bet if you search back far enough, you will find old posts with me saying the exact same thing as you. Guess what, I'm a foodie, always have been, always will be. And those few chips you ate, well, you didn't see any fluctuation on the scale, and they tasted so darn good that next time you eat a few more than last. Then, one day you get on the scale and realize you have gained a few pounds. Oh well, I can take that off easy, my sleeve is still here working for me. But, first, I have that party this week, so I'll worry about doing what I know I need to do next week. Then, wow, why do my pants feel tight? It's okay, with my sleeve if will be easy to lose a few extra pounds. But, not right now because - insert excuse here.
Now, a year later here I sit with tears in my eyes reading your post because you sound just like me and I am so afraid you will end up like me. You know what the worst is, if you are an administrator of a forum and a health advisor who helps others lose weight. It is humiliating. I have gone from a size eight back up to a fourteen, and am dangerously close to those damn fourteens being too tight. I now have 40 pounds to lose because I had the same attitude as you. And as each pound came on, I convinced myself I could lose it easily and would, starting next week. Believe me, it is not anywhere as easy to lose this weight at four years out as it was the first year. When I was 300 pounds, it didn't bother me anywhere near as much as the weight I am at now, even though my current weight is significantly less than 300. Because now, I have been thin. I remember how good it felt. I felt sexy for the first time in my life. I felt good about who I was. I became self confident and outgoing. Now, I have gone back to the old me, trying to hide from the world. All I think about is how good I felt two years ago and how angry I am at myself now. You have no idea how many tears I have cried over this. Don't do that to yourself. Don't let that one treat turn into many. Establish good habits now and do not let yourself stray for them, because once you do, it is a slippery slope my friend.
Fortunately, my Bill is an amazing man. He is a personal trainer and nutritionist. He saw what was happening, but knows me well enough to know that until I acknowledged it, owned it and the time was right, it wouldn't do him any good to try and help me because I only would have pushed him away. But, two weeks ago I reached my breaking point. I sat down and cried in his arms for over an hour. With his help, I am back working out and eating healthy again. I bought a body media fit and am pushing myself to burn calories and watch every bite that goes in my mouth. I know this isn't going to be easy, but I am going to do it, again. I have to completely retrain myself and once again lose those old habits because I thought just one of this or substituting that just once in a while wouldn't hurt me. It does, we got fat because we love food and don't have good willpower over that love. It is going to be a battle the rest of your life. During the honeymoon phase where the weight is just falling off, you don't believe you will ever be fat again. Guess what, you can and will if you don't fully commit to good eating habits for the rest of your life.
So, Butter isn't being a hardass, he is being smart. Listen to him. He knows what he is talking about. Or, don't listen to him, and in two years find yourself sitting on your couch crying because you are reading a post from someone who was exactly like you used to be and you know they will be the next one who has gained weight and wondered how the hell that could have happened when I have the sleeve?

I'm with Butter, Laura and GG..... While I'm only 2 months out, I still pretty stick to my eating plan, I enjoy good food. Went to Bahamas Breeze yesterday...had the fish tacos with a side of fresh fruit.... I just didn't eat the flour tortillas. Actually I couldn't have anyway cuz I was full. Didn't finish the fruit either. So many people I have talked with weight regain all have said that it just started with a bite of this and taste of that. It come down to knowing yourself. Your triggers. There are foods I love that I had to kiss goodbye forever, cuz I know one bite is not enough. There are other foods that I can be a be more moderate on, once I get to goal that is. For now, no way. My goal is GOAL. I'm not craving, jonesing , begging or pleading. I get up and make a good healthy plan. I'm not doing this again! 45 yrs of dieting is enough. I guess I just finally 'grew up' when it came to food and eating. I listen to the wisdom of the successful old timers...I'm with ya guys!

I'm with Butter, Laura and GG..... While I'm only 2 months out, I still pretty stick to my eating plan, I enjoy good food. Went to Bahamas Breeze yesterday...had the fish tacos with a side of fresh fruit.... I just didn't eat the flour tortillas. Actually I couldn't have anyway cuz I was full. Didn't finish the fruit either. So many people I have talked with weight regain all have said that it just started with a bite of this and taste of that. It come down to knowing yourself. Your triggers. There are foods I love that I had to kiss goodbye forever, cuz I know one bite is not enough. There are other foods that I can be a be more moderate on, once I get to goal that is. For now, no way. My goal is GOAL. I'm not craving, jonesing , begging or pleading. I get up and make a good healthy plan. I'm not doing this again! 45 yrs of dieting is enough. I guess I just finally 'grew up' when it came to food and eating. I listen to the wisdom of the successful old timers...I'm with ya guys!

I'm with Butter, Laura and GG..... While I'm only 2 months out, I still pretty stick to my eating plan, I enjoy good food. Went to Bahamas Breeze yesterday...had the fish tacos with a side of fresh fruit.... I just didn't eat the flour tortillas. Actually I couldn't have anyway cuz I was full. Didn't finish the fruit either. So many people I have talked with weight regain all have said that it just started with a bite of this and taste of that. It come down to knowing yourself. Your triggers. There are foods I love that I had to kiss goodbye forever, cuz I know one bite is not enough. There are other foods that I can be a be more moderate on, once I get to goal that is. For now, no way. My goal is GOAL. I'm not craving, jonesing , begging or pleading. I get up and make a good healthy plan. I'm not doing this again! 45 yrs of dieting is enough. I guess I just finally 'grew up' when it came to food and eating. I listen to the wisdom of the successful old timers...I'm with ya guys!

Party poopers...
I can eat a cookie! But the fact of the matter is even with the sleeve I can eat tons of Cookies..
If I could stop at just one or two I wouldn't be fat!
Fact, with the sleeve you will feel restriction when you eat dense Proteins. Junk food (you know the good stuff) slides nicely through.
And you can eat lots if it easily hence the name "sliders"
So as you get further out it is all about choices. Just like before.

People make different choices on this, but I'd like to challenge the belief that Protein and vegetables are bland, boring, disgusting, and deprivation rations.
chicken, fish, lobster, crab, shrimp, lamb, pork, steak, ground beef, steaks, roasts, zucchini, mushrooms, onions, tomatoes, eggplant, green Beans, okra, spinach, kale, beets, salsas, spices, herbs...what's bland and boring about those??
I think if we started to think of how LUCKY we are to be able to eat such richness and still lose weight, maybe we wouldn't feel deprived?

Yes you can certainly eat anything you want. And yes you can continue to be a slave to food.
You can also regain all of your lost weight later on.
Or you may keep it off. Which will it be? Do you have any idea what it's going to be like 1 year, 2 years, 5 years down the line?
This whole "feeling guilty" thing is ridiculous. No one is trying to make anyone feel guilty. No one is trying to shame anyone for eating junk food. But those folks who have been at this a while know that as time goes by appetites change....food capacity changes....metabolism changes....weight loss stops....the things that are working for you now may not work later on. Why not try to beat that need for unhealthy food early on while it's easier? Why does anyone need pizza or hamburgers to feel normal?