swimbikerun

salad. Nothing different in terms of food. Just watching my spinach, kale, onions, lettuces, grow and hoping the carrots are starting to sprout.

Just happening, so already done.

Its a journey. All my love to everyone on the forum - all sisters and brothers!

Sadly I'm starting to see that also.

I don't have a problem with that. I mean I can understand that and sympathize. Its definitely better than eating too many McDonald French Fries. Yes, the toll road that bypassed Battlefield. The replacement is now a 4 laner that is just as much as issue. LOL. Privately educated here. We, our church, etc. tend to be more homeschooler and the like.

That makes sense. My eyes tracking funny, dizziness, fuzzy stuff, all has to do with low B1 but I have other Vitamins that tank also. How do you manage high D? I envy you. I envy you a lot. No, the oral problems are mine. I have GI track issues, getting down pills can be an adventure or hit and miss sometimes. Its not really funny when its your thyroid medication you've having problems with. That's why its easier to go for shots (or a midline when I get in major trouble). You are lucky. Great Bridge can be a horror to get too. Lots of traffic and they put the toll road in.

I give IM shots every month. B12 & B1. I have oral problems, so would you be looking at something else?

If data was often wrong, we wouldn't have studies showing how well WLS works. Antibiotics wouldn't be proven to work, nor many drugs. It may not tell the whole story. The purpose is to look carefully at studies and see how well they fit your particular "group". In cases of us with GP, bariatric surgeries work for most but not all of us. It doesn't mean we shouldn't take the chance.

I took Reglan but it is only for a short time. I have gastroparesis. It is frequently missed or messed up in the treatment of it.

Some of us are still here wanting to get others to learn from their bad experiences and never see it happen to any one else. Paying it forward. Surgeons who say they'll mark up your records to interfere with your doctors' caring for you and blocking care should never ever happen. It did in my case. I investigated and found a lot of covering up both in administration and in doctors and the govt. That's why i stay around. No one deserves this - and the only way to stop it to post things like the tape where the doctor talked about me to someone off the street. When you see docs like that, that is why you need to ask questions. Get someone who doesn't do that sort of thing. Help others out of that situation. Hey I resent that! Some of us are still here because we have transferred our food and alcohol addictions to WLS forum addictions. As dysfunctional as they are and as silly and idiotic some threads are, it's like a horrible car crash that I just can't help but stare at. Hello my user name is Kindle and I am addicted to online forums. LOL Hey I resent that! Some of us are still here because we have transferred our food and alcohol addictions to WLS forum addictions. As dysfunctional as they are and as silly and idiotic some threads are, it's like a horrible car crash that I just can't help but stare at. Hello my user name is Kindle and I am addicted to online forums. LOL

No we don't know that. How success is defined in a study and what it means to people are 2 different things. By my *surgeons* criteria, I am a success. By other doctors, insurance, etc. I am not because of the health problems I have after. As I said: honeymoon phase. Its all new and exciting, and I've lost this much by the 1 year time. Visiting at the 3, 5, 7, 10 year out, big difference. We still come back to the same questions. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24915261%C2'> might help. You can also check for the Swedish Obese Subjects. Granted it is not a lot of people but it is more than Italy. This is where I get the stats. They have socialized medicine in Sweden. Its a lot easier to follow people when they don't have to pay, like in America, and they have a one stop shop to go to, in terms of things following them around.

Americans are not known for truthful reporting. So ... even the health apps are starting to get flagged because the data in them is not always trustable. It was one of the issues that came up when the ideas of taking the health apps people use and putting them in their medical records. It seemed to work for healthy, educated, and higher educated people. If you aren't with your surgeon any longer or don't want to be, or your surgeon wants to hide your results, you won't get a code. My surgeon definitely doesn't want a number of "whoops" on his record (with me or any one else). Possibly a regular doctor could, but the problem is, what happens for those uninsured? What do you define as success? Weight loss is the major item tracked, but I don't see where they're separating out true resolution of diabetes. There is a Swedish study that showed 30% resolution of diabetes 10 years out, and a bit more at a 5 year rate. The issue was the longer you had diabetes before the surgery, the greater the chance of it returning. If you were just prediabetic, you had the best chance for resolution. Why they aren't following that up is beyond me because that is a big issue: equal to weight.

@@VSGAnn2014 I understand your concerns. This is 182 people for the study in Italy. http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/Bariatric-Surgery/Pages/labs.aspx#c "According to the former American Society for Bariatric Surgery (now the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery, or ASMBS), the number of procedures increased from about 16,000 in the early 1990s to more than 103,000 in 2003. The ASMBS estimates that 220,000 people in the United States had bariatric surgery in 2008." http://obesityreporter.com/bariatric-weight-loss-surgery-statistics-updated-2015/ " The number of bariatric surgeries increased to 179,000 in 2013 with 34.2% of surgeries as Roux-en-Y gastric bypass, 14% gastric banding, 42.1% gastric sleeve, 1% as duodenal switch, 6% as revisional surgery and 2.7% classified as other (American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery). While the common misconception is that most patients who have metabolic or bariatric surgery generally regain their weight, the statement is just not true. According to the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery, as many as 50 percent of patients may regain a small portion of their weight loss (just 5%) two years or more following surgery. However, according to more longitudinal studies, most bariatric surgery patients maintain successful weight-loss long-term. Successful weight loss is generally defined as weight loss that equals to or greater than 50 percent of their excess body weight." Less than 200 people over 2 years, and not the same "culture", that's why I'm skeptical. I am also saying this hearing people who have had problems basically get separated from the surgeon after more than a year. Again, it needs to include people no longer with their surgeons. It would be better to have an all invite study and find out why these people are no longer with the surgeon. I had a PCP tell me that insurance is why the majority of her patients don't go back (they won't pay for it). I want to consider all aspects. While I'm sure there might be people like you all, your stories can be anecdotal as mine are. @@vincereautmori I see your point. My question is how many give up? Insurances pay for one shot, one surgery. There isn't a lot more, like a program, for those who gain weight back. Some people may be ok with some weight gain. Lets face it: if you were 300 lbs. and lost down to 150, say you gained to 170 or so, you are still infinitely better off than what you were. Would you complain? Probably not. Would your insurance pay to see the surgeon again? Maybe not. "In another study published by US National Library of Medicine and the National Institutes of Health, the long-term success rate of those who had laparoscopic sleeve gastrectomy (vertical sleeve) appears to be a weight loss of over 50% and 6+ years of maintenance. Some weight regain occurred during the third and sixth postoperative year. The study’s researchers believe that with regular follow-up visits this weight regain could be prevented." Look at the success of the 5 day pouch reset Plan. Someone can google the information, read the info, and not even have to post. Same for the forums. I'm saying we need to consider all facets. I'm not sure that 180+ people in Italy can extrapolate to the fast food on every corner America with hundreds of thousands of surgeries. We need to think about getting people who are away from their surgeons and finding out why they are away: weight loss, insurance, embarrassment over weight regain, can't be bothered, moved away, did well, etc. The surgery is new, everything is new and exciting. Once the honeymoon has passed ...

@@Alex Brecher Ta. Carrots, lettuces, some onions, kale, spinach all out today.

You are very rare in terms of what people are saying. I've seen more gain back than keeping it all off. Various levels of keeping it off though. When we take a look at forums on various media, the trend appears 1 year out and less people show their photos. When they get to 2 years and over, it tends to be more that they need help because of regain. I went too low, so it was ok for me to gain some back. Even at a regular weight, I have still had multiple Vitamin & other deficiencies. Its probably more of an issue to find out if the person is healthy vs. what the weight is.

In addition to that, people who have had problems, like myself, who are lost to follow up because of the doctors aren't included. There are people who wont' go back also because they gain weight and dont' want to admit it.

I dont think any one plans on being average, but this is over a 6 year period. I see a lot of posters on places in the first year then it dives off. After that, more of what you see is the regain. Offices don't deal with it, the $$$ are in the surgeries.

I did a marathon at a 100 pounds overweight. I did everything from a mile to a marathon and every distance in between in running. Its possible, you have to have a fighting attitude. I do the same in trying to swim. I did some good things when I was losing the weight. It helped me to lose it.

Other people do get a good workout. If you are used to a full body workout and are of normal weight, no matter how fast you do it, you aren't working everything like you do swimming. Ask a swimmer - one who competes. There's no way you can practice sets like that though, taking stuff on and off. You can't just stop in the middle and say oh I have to take this off, especially when you don't use the outer lanes.

They had talked to me about something like that, but it makes it harder to try and do all the strokes. I do a lot of IM work.

I've only done one class but being a swimmer, I kept getting too cold. I'm used to something a bit more vigorous and I lost weight. I've only done one class but being a swimmer, I kept getting too cold. I'm used to something a bit more vigorous and I lost weight.

How do you people manage to do that? I can either pray or depending on the season, I'm concentrating on coaches instructions: pinky finger in first look straight down roll the shoulders tuck head in kick with hips watch your catch ... what's the next set ...

Nuts can have their place. I think a huge fallacy that places do is to place more emphasis on calories vs. types of food. A McChemicals (sorry McDonalds) hamburger would help you less than some nuts. I see more people worried over getting in their Protein when in America, that is never the problem. The reason people regain at 3-5 years is going back to old habits (in many cases) vs. learning to eat healthy foods. Look at vegans and vegetarians and you see fewer people overweight. Btw, you can always get unsalted, plain nuts. You can roast them in spices, you can get something from that.

What kind of veggies & meat do you like? Are there any salad or healthy options, like an apple or banana, that you can take with you? How about nuts? Although they do have healthy fat, they have protein and are a good crunch that can keep you going.

Products no, but I try to grow more food. I have an expanding garden. Last year I did okra, beets, carrots, herbs, lettuces, tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, onions. I want a wider range this year with more various types of those. I already have some of the herbs, carrots, various lettuces, and will also plant spinach. I'm also planning the tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, and onions, maybe some garlic too.