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Wow - well I am glad they did - they found stuff on the tests they wouldn’t have otherwise - you were the insurance expert - surprised you didn’t make a request for it - I NOW KNOW how critical it is and how important to my survival/health and outcome... Do some research on sleep on how the body fights loosing weight and enlighten yourself.

Pulmonology is the b***h - they will make you do a sleep study because of your bmi.

& I’m too damn old to participate in playground games.

Feel like I’ve had enough judging in a lifetime of fat I support whatever decision anyone makes - and I expect that same consideration. In fake online life - and real life

THANK YOU - I’m fairly confident I’ll have to have this - you just made me feel 1000% better.

I’m just going to say it. I’m outspoken myself and through this journey (I’m 4 months of my required 6 month pre-surgical appointments) Why do some people find it necessary to vilify this surgery or that surgery? We are a community of like people. We, saying this as a fat person, are constantly vilified by others - if your not - believe me - someone at the grocery store just shook their head - someone at the gas station chuckled under his breath - someone....well you get it. So how come here - this place which I think is GLUE - are people so high and mighty that they can say what surgery is good or bad for others? Be open to the POSSIBILITY that lies here - be open to this place that is open and sharing and non-judgemental. Be open to GLUE. I feel better saying this. It may never be read by anyone else - I found this place in my journey - I am going to soul search and figure out whats best for me and honor the medical professionals expertise. I have many degrees - one of them is NOT medical. jumped off my soapbox.

they say it adds air to our pouch

At our school they can donate it to the military - have them pick out a few of their favorites and ship it all off overseas... just a recommendation -

what about the narcotics your on from surgery?

What makes you so sure you will have dumping? 3 friends who have ZERO dumping whatsoever.

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/chris-powell-carb-cycling-recipes-low-carb-day

My surgeon does rny/vsg/band I think the argument is going to be rny because of a) amount to loose and 2) t2dm - and now I’m doing my research - the long term studies can’t be very long term as the vsg has only been 4-5 years approved therefor result studies about the remission of t2dm aren’t as readily available - whereas rny has a much longer history and therefor they can prove that result - I’m conflicted

Did your team try to encourage you to do rny? How did you decide?

I love this and will use this for the rest of my life. What a great comment.

I hate saying this - but maybe it’s a man or woman thing - I don’t see many men offended about their age or weight - we as women are conditioned -- just look at tv.

I wanna have as much AMMUNITION - because if I do the sleeve - and everything works - and let’s say I do have diabetes (not chubby related) I’ll be ok - If I have the RNY and still find myself diabetic (which I believe we will always be diabetic) I have to then go straight to injections - which, for me, is so difficult - I do it because I have to - but I am just hoping against insulin - not even sure what cycle that will/can create Thank you for answering me and helping with this dialog everyone - I’m still confused - but it will end up being the decision we all make together (me and the hubby)

Oh that one gets followed up with a question about something equally private - that one drives me NUTS and it comes out of peoples mouths so smoothly...

I’m pre-surgery and already thinking of a nice way to say thank you and I appreciate your support - I KNOW folks are going to ask me and I KNOW it’s going to take everything in my power to NOT ask them an equally personal question - such as - “So when was your last bowel movement - describe for me the shape, color, consistency - smell?" see i’m a smart ass and it’s really going to take allot to NOT ask that question to them when they ask me HOW MUCH. xoxo sit next to me - i say what y’all are thinking and i say it out loud

If it’s not too rude - what was your a1c and does i’m 6.5 a1c (retesting in about 2-3 weeks) taking 500am 1000pm met and 1.8 victosa - been t2 for 12 yrs VERY INTERESTING - I reallllllly didn’t want to go rny

Look up HIPPA and FMLA

FWIW - I’ve had “dumping” for 12 yrs - and you learn what you can or cannot have - the meds for diabetes have a syndrome which from all accounts is identical - it’s NOT pretty - it’s inconsistent - and in my PRE-surgery case - doesn’t do a thing for weight loss - if it did - I’d be THINNNNNNNN. Thank you all for talking here - it’s therapeutic and like talking to friends - it’s thinking through the pros and cons and helps me - I thought about the sleeve and how if it wasn’t the results I wished I could do the DS or the full bypass - I think that’s where the Nut and RN were coming from yesterday when they said you don’t wanna do that - and when I think about the LONG list of stuff I need to do - sleep test - pulmonary (2 visits possibly 3) - endoscope - endocrinologist and blood workup - psych eval - Nut (2) and all of this is after my 6 month mandatory PCP visits with monthly NUT visits - I can totally see how they are leaning toward the do it once right and you won’t have to be a surgical candidate twice - I’m going to have WLS - that’s not a debate - it used to be - but I’m invested now - and it’s a matter of figuring out which surgery - and what is going to be best for me - for my family - for my future - keeping in mind that #1 on my list is to be an active person and #2 is mitigating diabetes and it’s hold on my life expectancy - all of this is daunting ... and having someplace to talk to - so instantaneously - it’s like magic - my husband might crawl through his skin if i debate this stuff with him - he supports me - and is my rock (26 yrs of being my rock) and he just is afraid of the potentials - who isn’t - and afraid of regain - I TOTALLY GET IT - I am too... with that - thank you - and you’ve ALL given me something to chew on i had to go there - that was funny - hahaha - bairatric humor - haha

Oh and I’m on victosa (which DOES NOT CONTROL APPETITE for me) and metphormin - nothing special - and my A1c of 6.5 wasn’t due to diet OR exercise - which was the whole reason I was prompted to get surgery - I don’t know “how long” I can be on these meds and be ok - 10 yrs (ok I did 12 already) 20, 30, 40 - I’m 44 now - and technically my life expectancy is another 40 - but not at this weight - If I do sleeve - my insurance will cover additional WLS’s which is/was something I looked into - wanted to make sure it wasn’t a ONCE in a lifetime thing - as a just what if question - my insurance also covers medically necessary plastics -- How did you decide on sleeve? I was so sure before.

This is what they said yesterday - I can keep taking diabetic meds forever - or I can take supplements - I have allot to loose and have been this heavy for a long time - I just don’t know how to decide. Thank you all for commenting here...

I was completely convinced sleeve was the way to go - and yesterday at a simple “intro” meeting my head is all turned upside down. I have been Type 2 for 12 yrs - in decent control (a1c of 6.5) and haven’t really done anything “special” to make sure I was in decent control - I wake up with readings like 165ish - I am a dawn riser - which means my liver pulses out overnight - being diabetic for 12 yrs I might also have done irreparable damage to my pancreas - I really don’t know. My #1 reason for WLS is activity - at 200lbs OVERWEIGHT (according to the hideous charts) -- I don’t EVER recall being 140 -- and my #2 reason is the diabetes. I will be seeing the surgeon in about 10 weeks and I am a researcher - when I found this place I thought ok - like minded people - I’m settled on the sleeve - now I’m not sure - In the end it will be a decision me and my family make - just wondering about any other diabetics and their input... thanks for listening...

I saw that too...thank you. in the same breath the presenter said something about a lapband patient and his results that were awesome -- I still have time to decide but am stumped now - I was all about VSG until this morning.