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I am sure, that so many of us change. We will become more confident. And it is easier to get out of a bad relationship, when you have more selfesteem. BUT - beware of the honeymoon fase. I have read a lot about people, who feel like teenagers again - need to kiss a lot of new people :-) So if you ar ein a good relationsship it is good to be aware of this honeymoonfase.

Suddenly we like our bodies again, and other do as well.

I am concerned myself.... Havent had the operation yet.

Just my surgery date.

The 30th of November!

YAY

I have the same problem with food!

We need to say goodbye to our comforting food.

But we can still eat a LITTLE of everything. And we need to be comforted in other ways - find new coping strategies.

I am trying to TALK with my friends, meditate, sleep and get massages, instead of eating - have fun.

It will be the only way pout for me, I have tried everything - and I am so much looking forward to this operation. I have a love-hate-relationship. And this will help me BIG TIME

Change is sometimes scary - but I am so sure, it will be better. And when we get used to it, then it feels normal.

Congratulations! I will be operated in November. YaY

Some good advice have been given

Just wanted to say, that I am sure that many of us overweight people feel the same way. We need to say goodbye to our comforting food.

An example: My sister had a Bypass in may, and have been treated for Binge eating disorder - and or just overeating.

I have some of the same problems. She still has a few issues, but it is nothing compared to before the surgery.

We can still eat a LITTLE of everything. And we need to be comforted in other ways - find new coping strategies.

I am trying to TALK with my friends, meditate, sleep and get massages, instead of eating.

These week I am saying goodbye to my old comfortfood - will be operated 30th of November.

Family and friends - it is also difficult for them, taht YOU change. Will you still be the same? Will you still give them attention?

Or mayby they think that it is a HUGE operation?

We are all different. I have the same thoughts as you. But I am looking forward to be operated, to have a tool and some help with my overeating. (And will have some therapy as well - for the fifth time :-))

HUGS

I can tell you that in Denmark sleep Apnea is considered a comorbidity (if it obstructive because of weight). Therefore our government would pay for the operation, if your BMI is over 35 + sleep apnea.

So I am quite sure, that Sleep apnea is wellknown to be linked to overweight (insurance wise, I think).

I have it too - and the Darth Vader machine.

Oh, thanks! - That make sense.

Yes, you are right - her voice sounded different.

Maybe our voices will be a little different too!

I am glad to hear, that they are doing great. It is wonderful!

I have been thinking about making my own videos. I would so much like to tell my story to others, that consider this operation.

But it is not that interesting, if I will not show my face :-)

But I am sure, it would be interesting for my self and my journey to make a video log. Even if I am the only one who see it

AND - if someone wonders

I will be operated by the danish/greek doctor in Athens November 2010.

By the way, some one posted something about a great doctor in czech republic.

Yes, I know they are a little old - but I hope some newbies like me would enjoy seeing them.

You know, new in this area and find all kinds of things.

How are they doing today - if anyone know, please comment?

Day 4 post op - 246

over a year after - 158

INSPIRATION

I am looking for inspiration - looking at before and after pictures.

Found these videos BMI 34.4 and after 8 months of surgery

It is wonderful to see - cant believe my eyes

Can this really be me in a year.

Pre op - BMI 34.4

After 8 months - a size 4

If you have any inspirational videos please post them YAY

I am 36 now, turning 37 in a month - also having the sleeve in a month!

Most of my late twenties and my thirties, I have been overweight.

With some great weightloss - gained it all back.

But I got a taste of all the flirt, I have missed.

I hope it is not too late to have a little flirt.

I think I have waisted so many years on being overweight - hoping to have some time to flirt and taste some good life next year, when I have lost some weight.

Me and my boyfriend is moving apart in a week. It has nothing to do with my sleeve getting done. But inside it helps me to cope - I will find someone else.

I would find someone, even if I do not have the operation. But statistically, I will have more men to choose from, I think, when I reach the normal weight-area.

I hope I will not go crazy in men. That I will take it easy - I will really be carefull. Everytime I lost the weight, I got so much attention, that it was almost too much. I need to handle this. Still hope that there will be some dating and fun. Inside I feel like 25

I know this was wrote somee month ago.

Anyhow - if some one else comes by

Havent vbeen operated yet, but building up my body

I have purchased

B12

Iron

Calcium with D-vitamins

Normal Multivitamins.

Omega 3 oil

My surgeon hasnt told me anything - but I will ask him.

Just my own idea to buy these.

I will not overdoo it, every other day, I forget to take them.

Maybe it is not nessesary - but it is my choise

And do not take Calcium and Iron at the same time. The uptake will not be as good.

Just wanted to share:

I am 168 cm / 5 feet 6 inches

Weight 93 kg / 204 pounds

Would like to loose at least 60 pounds - would love to weigh 64 kilos (140 pounds). But everything under 70 kg would be paradise!

I will get sleeved late November 2010.

Living in Denmark - going for Athens to have my operation

Sweetie

I once had a BMI on 26, I felt all wrong (had 4 liposuctions!), - asked my doctor for diet pills. She wouldnt give it too me, because I wasn't overweight. And they has side effects that wasn't healthy

I cried and really felt dissapointed - that my doc let me down.

Now, 10 years later,when I have a lot higher and unhealthy BMI, I wonder why I was ever thinking I was fat then. I was so beautiful.

I would love to be back on a BMI on 26 again.

I know how difficult it is when you feel big, and others can not see it.

Please try other healthy methods, and perhaps talk with someone you can trust. Consider Overeaters A - it is a nice place. I do not think a surgeon would consider you as a patient. How much would you like to loose to be satisfied?

A great answer - a good one to answer!

PRE-OP, my ten reason for having the operation are:

1.To get rid of my sleep apnea and somewhat high blood pressure,

2. Less snoring - will be able to sleep next to someone again

3. To live longer and perhaps become more fertile (36 - no children yet - but mayby in the future. I dont know if I want any)

4. To get some load off my stomach, so I would have less pain in my lower back

5. To be able to run for more than 30 seconds, without having joint pain.

6. DANCE freely- not feeling heavy and stange when I am moving my body

7., To be confident again, when I meet people from the old days - when I had a normal weight.

8. I am a stylist: To choose some of the clothes for my self, I use and write about for others.

9. To feel more attractive. To be the best woman, I can be.

10. to feel more the FREEDOM - my most important value in life. Freedom from the extra weight.

Will be back in a half year, and make a follow up on this!

Pre-op - what will I think? Wondering about that too.

Nice question, got me thinking

On the table, lights on, nurses, doctors around me. All kind of machines bipping..

"What am I doing - is this the right thing? Will this really work? Should I have underwent the bypass instead?"

I think I will prepare myself. I use voice recordings alot.

Listening to my thoughts. Using them as a motivator on my MP3

Will tell my self all the great things thatn will know happend.

So my brain is more focused on that,than´what could go wrong.

I have the same "problem". It is somewhat a good thing, because I feel more confident. If I could really see my, as I see on photos, I would hide a lot more.

But I also like curved women.

I am having my surgery in a month and you got me thinking.

How will I see my self after WLS? Probably a lot more skinny, that I really am. OR?

I remember, when I was underweight 15 years ago - I saw myself as normal.

I am sure, that I can see the difference. Maybe it will feel like coming home.

Back to the body, I really want to be in.

I was a plus size model a couple a month ago - feeling confident before, but when I saw the photos. WHAT!!!!!!???

I would want anyone to see them, but it was too late, and they were used, so a lot of people from my old shool, earlier boy friends ect must have seen them. :camera:

So strange. I am really curious, how I will se myself when loosing the extra baggage.

My sister also see herself as more skinny. She was operated with a BMI on 40, is now down to 33 and feel all normal. She has subscribed to a dating site, writing she has a normal weight. She asked me, if it was OK, if people would see her as normal? I told her, that a lot would probably see her as curvy girl, but not normal - she didnt like the answer. She still need to loose 40-50 pounds to be in the "normal" section. She cant see it herself. She is wearing really tight clothes already. I am glad she feels so confident, and wouldnt want to say anything -she really is beautiful. I would not wear leggings and a short t-shirt, having the same BMI. She is celebrating all the weight coming off:wub:

She is looking so great and healthy - but I feel that she sees herself as a different size and much more skinny, than she really is. Just like I would do.

Using her as an example for what I would do and see when loosing weight. I will probably see the same - when loosing a lot of weight, I will probably see myself in the normal category, before I really am. Will be back in half a year and give you an updateB)

It is interesting to hear someone who IS hungry after the operation. Even in a different way.

Perhaps a little optimistic, I hoped for no hunger the first half year. But mayby I am lucky. Will see.

ABOUT WATER

Mayby I have misunderstood it. BUT:

My surgeon told me, that fluids will not stay long in the stomach, it wil go directly through

- it is not long enough in the stomach, to produce the needed pressure.

Something solid will do it.

It is also so important not to drink calories, but we all know that

Any news - are you better:unsure:?

LilMissDiva, you are a clever girl. Thank you!

I just talked with my surgeon 10 minutes ago, booking the operation. And I asked about this.

He told me, it was true.

That other hormones- who were located in the intestines, and had to do with hunger, did increase over time, when the ghrelin decreased.

But not in the first 18 month. And in the first 18 month, you loose almost all of the excess weight.

It was almost impossibel to gain weight again after the 18 month, because of the small stomach.

BUT, he said, a lot of the patients didn't experience the same hunger as before the operation.

Just like you decribe!

Yeah, that made me calm, It is not like before the operation. Something has changed.

I like the way, you decribe your hunger. I would simply LOVE AND WORSHIP that missing feeling forever.

Just 30% less of the hunger, I have know, would help me to loose weight.

I understand, why you consider the plication. The pressure receptors works fine in a sleeve plication. So why cut the stomach out? You cant cut the ghrelin out. Do the decrease in ghrelin work just as fine in a plication?

Anyone?

I really feel, that I have made the right choice - I am so thankful that I found this forum

I just talked with my surgeon 10 minutes ago.

He gave me 4 dates to choose from in late November!

So I will be a November Sleever too!

I live in Denmark, but will have the operation in Greece - Athens.

I THINK THIS IS THE MOST INTERESTING PART - I didnt know that:

"There are probably many pharmaceutical companies working on an "anti-ghrelin" drug but it is likely that even if such a drug is created and works, the other hormones involved in appetite will increase over time reducing its effectiveness."

If the other hormones "take over" over time - then the reduced hunger from the operation will decrease over time? Has anyone in this forum been operated for 5-10 years or more?

But we still have the smaller stomach, if the antighrelin effect subside. Will the feeling of hunger then be the same, as many with the lapband experience?

Thank you for answering, Eureka C!

I am sorry for your brother - but it is nice to know, that it kan be fixed!

Now I understand - and it is easier to get the hernias , the more overweight you are, because of the musclestreching = weak spots! Perhaps the surgery gave the hernias a chance "come out".

Mayby Im not so prone to have them, when I am "only" 60-70 pounds overweight.

It should be so painful - and very dangerous. But he probably already knew he would come back with them,

so he reacted quickly on the pain, I would guess.

And thank you for your earlier message, you probably have already seen my answers

Have a wonderful day!

Dear Tiffany

Once again, thank you so much for your great answers.

Someone should hire you as a writer for these Sleeve sites. When you explains it - everything make sense.

"but I was a volume eater. It was nothing for me to eat an entire large pizza by myself."

When you descibe this, I become aware, that I am a volume eater too. Regarding everything.Every food.

Especially when it is "free" or "most for you money in the buffet" kind of things. Embarrasing, but thats how it is/was. And recognizing, that I am volume eater too, make me even more sure, that this is the operation for me.

Now, I hate it if I take one too many bites.

If I could have that feeling, I would be halfway there.

"Gastrectomies have been performed decades upon decades for people with ulcerative conditions, or stomach cancer. I researched gastrectomies outside of weight loss surgery, and found 1000s of people...."

That make me feel so secure. I am glad you have reserched so much - it has been difficult for me to find all the medical journals, statistics and material.

I am sure, that this is the most healthy operation to choose - BUT still 10% afraid, that I will not loose kore than 10 pounds. But if I work with this, put a lot of effort in it, visiting dieticians ect. It can not go totally wrong. :-)

I am much more likely to succed.

And I am sure, when I have read all the succes stories here - I will believe, that it could happen to me.

"The VSG has studies out for 5+ years showing great success as long as the surgeon uses a small bougie"

I am so glad, you told me this, exlained the word to me.

Now, I will ask the surgeons about this too.

If you have the time and energy - What will happen if they use something bigger? More tissue damage, or complications or?

If they don't remove the organ, there is no "ectomy" performed.

Now I understand - and the remain of the stomach is the least strechy part. Intelligent :-) And can not se, how they will get the rest of the stomach outc - but thats perhaps what the bougie is for. Investigation....

I could give you the laundry list of complications and weight regain stats for all my "real life" friends that have had RNY, but it would take me forever. I won't deny that RNY is a good surgery for some, but the stats were just too alarming for me to choose that procedure.

There is not that much focus here in Denmark on these complications - but mayby there will in a few years. The bypass have boomed the last 3 years. I dont know how much help other countries get post operation. But In Denmark the healtcare system is free - I would imagine, that you will get your helth checked much more, when doctors, hospitals, test ect is free.

pouches suck - got it - thats what a lot of people experience. :-(

If they are talking about hiatal hernias, they are common in obese patients and usually repaired during surgery.

I tried to find the medical term in english, but could not.

Hernia is a lot of things - what I mean is, when the small instestines are twisted, or go through the incistion holes.

A lot of people have problems after surgert with these kind of hernias/twisted intestines - and its lethal/mortal.

But as far as I can se, this is more common for bypassers than for sleeve-patiens?

Since you are in Denmark, I would highly suggest talking to your surgeon about being prescribed an acid reducer. This helps protect your staple line, and can help decrease false hunger caused by acid reflux that sometimes occurs post-sleeve.

I am so glad you told me this!

here is nothing about this on the different websites. I will keep all the ino, you have given me, and ask my surgeon. Interesting, that acid kan promote some kind of fake hunger.

That is fantastic, that this can help so much.

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Thank you so much Tiffany!

I leaned so much new

Hugs from Copenhagen