O.T.R. sleever

So you are saying the scoop in the container that it came with i fill it all the way I'm not sure what I did it just seemed like a lot.. I took a measuring cup and measured it in it was 3 ounces

Yes, the scoop that was in the container is the proper measurement. A measuring cup measures volume, the Protein powder is measured by weight. If weighed 1full scoop on a scale you would get 27grams. Keep in mind you'll need to subtract the weight of the scoop itself (I'm guessing the scoop is about 7-10g).

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I found the first 2 I thought of.

For the unjury Protein... The instructions said use 1 scoop for 8 ounces of milk... I just thought that was an awful big scoop so I looked at the facts and it said 1 scoop was 27 grams which is only 1 ounce of powder which would only be half of a scoop...

1 scoop is 1 scoop if you are using the scoop that comes in container. I have a feeling you are mixing an oz of weight & an oz of volume. They are not interchangeable.

Basically you get more personal attention & a nicer facility. They are both very competent surgeons.

There are alternatives to whey Protein.

Really, if you just can't take whey try another high quality Protein. Egg, hemp, there are others. Whey is the best stand alone protein, but there is nothing wrong with other high quality Proteins. The absolute best thing is a variety of different Proteins. One of my favorite smoothie-shakes uses whey, hemp, egg, & chia as protein sources, and I think it's delicious.

How does the flatbread weigh up? Thumbs up or down (carbs)?

The flatbread is 220 calories. Exactly the same as 6" Parmesan Oregano. That's just the bread.< /p>

Do you think we have to get an appointment? Or could you call them up if everything is going great get in pretty quickly? I don't want to take a bunch of cash with out a reason. But I would do botox! Is there a way to have a skin prick and then wait 24 hours (like hair color) to see if one is allergic? What a great idea.

I'm sure they will get you in if you decide you want it.

I went to Vitamin shop to try some different Protein drinks and purchased this one. It was so disgusting. Beware.

I'm really glad you didn't like it. It is nutritionally garbage. It is a collagen base and is unusable by the human body.

Yeah' date=' the high school kids who work at the subway where I live will probably be like "ummm...what? Scoop out what?" LOL! Oh well, I'll give it a shot [/quote']

Actually, they are trained on how to do it. Many of subways healthier sandwich nutritional info is calculated on "scooped" bread.< /p>

I get the chopped salads. No pesky bread to deal with.

I'm asking this not because I think going through this process is easy by any means. It takes courage and determination to make those lifestyle changes that are needed to be successful with sleeving. I'm asking this because I'm a little scared about committing to this surgery. I read and read the forums' date=' and I am packed full of information. But in my stupid little head i keep thinking. "if you do this then your a failure, you can lose weight on your own without getting cut open and parts removed". I'm 47, 320 lbs, and on every blood pressure/choloesterol med known to man if feels like. My dad died of a heart attack at 38 and my doctor says they are treating me like I've already had a cardiac event.. which i havent.

Did any body else out there struggle with making the decision to sleeve? Did you feel like a failure because you couldnt do it "on your own"? How did you over come those voices?

Congrats to all of you and many successes in the future.

Mike[/quote']

Mike, this is going to sound bad, but looking at your post I really think your evaluation a failure might be a bit off.

I can somewhat relate to your situation. Fortunately my dad is still around, but he had his first heart attack at 36 years old. He was in the army and fell out in the middle of a morning PT run. He was taken to the hospital where they determined it was a cardiac arrest, and performed his first angioplasty.

23 years later I am 39 years old (3years older than he was) and about 130lbs heavier than he was.

tick tick tick tick

That was the time bomb I had become. How much time could I have had left? Probably not much. I had tried a few times to lose weight unsuccessfully. But I remember back to building hot rods there was a number of occasions when a part was just too tight to slide into place by hand. The answer was to get the proper tool to accomplish the job. Usually that meant a big prybar or a Big F-ing Hammer. The end result was the modification was completed. No, I couldn't accomplish it without additional leverage, but the end result was success.

My sleeve was 1year ago next month. So far I've lost 100lbs(188 now) and that's even with a couple slips.

The best news for me is that due to my success my father was sleeved in February and has so far lost over 50lbs & is on his way to coming off many of the meds that he has been on for years.

Now it's your turn. Grab that B-F-H and start hammering your way to success.

You are NOT a failure till you stop trying.

Lol, coffee is one of those things that nobody can agree on. It has its pros & cons. Best I can tell, the biggest problem with coffee is the caffeine. Caffeine being a diuretic strips your body of valuable Water content.

The big debate is, "does the liquid content in coffee offset the the Water loss from the caffeine?". Some studies say yes, some say no.

My personal "common sense" conclusion would be something like this

De caffeinated = perfectly fine, even counts toward your daily hydration requirements

Regular(house blends)= OK. But do not count it toward your hydration goals, as the caffeine likely strips your body of as much water as the cup contains.

High caffeine(espresso, Cuban coffee, etc) = you'll need additional hydration as there is not enough water content in these to offset the caffeine.

Another thing to consider is what you add to your coffee. Sugar, cream, cocoa, caramel, etc. make sure you are accounting for all those extra calories.

Thank you everybody. It does feel better to come clean. And to know so many people have my back.

Chike is probably the best tasting high Protein Meal Replacement out there if you like a rich shake.

Yes, Water is fine, I'd toss a bit of crushed ice into it as well. The banana tastes like banana pudding. I also use unsweetened almond milk(30cal/ 8oz) to add extra Calcium & a bit of nutty flavor.

Do keep in mind though that Chike is a high Protein Meal Replacement, not a Protein Drink. It has a few more calories, not trying to scare you away from Chike, just ensuring your awareness.

Wow, do I really not want to admit this. But, I did it, I had a relapse.

For a few weeks I was eating candy and ice cream on a daily basis. Somewhere in the area of 2000 calories a day worth of candy bars & ice cream. That's plus my salads and Proteins.

I'm really ashamed of myself, not because I had relapse, that's just part of life for an addict. We are really good at justifying our addictions and tripping ourselves up. My shame comes from the fact that I let my pride get I the way of my recovery. I should have come here and told my sleeve family when I realized it was a problem. I knew it was a problem less than 1 week into it, but I couldn't bring myself to admitting it to you.

About a week ago I got on the scale & had gained back 7-8lbs. I was so disappointed in myself. I am back on a very strict diet, let me assure you getting back on track is much harder when you don't have a fresh staple line to scare you into following the rules.

The total disgust I felt looking at that number on he scale was enough to put me back on the straight and narrow.

But let me tell you from experience, stay mindful of what you eat. There have always been 2 schools of thought on eating post VSG, the "what's best" & the "what's acceptable". This experience has assured me even more the I belong in the "what's best" crowd. I really need to focus on my health because "acceptable" for me quickly turns into overindulgence.

I feel I need to apologize to you, my sleeve family for not being open about this when it happened.

I tried a new stunt today. I timed myself 2mins and ate as fast as i could. The trick was to eat quickly before my brain notice my stomach is full. It took me 2mins to eat what i usually eat in 20-30 mins. I did feel some pain but not that strong. I know this is dangerous but what do u guys think?

I really don't think it's dangerous at 10 months post op. But I am wondering, since this is not a boot camp in the strictest traditional sense, is it possible to bring your own food supply? I think of would be a great idea for you to have liquid meal supplements. If you couldn't slam a slim fast or Protein drink, then eat a few bites I think that would sustain you a lot better.

I can't help but wonder if a tendency to have deficiencies and be dehydrated more often when one has WLS leads to less skin elasticity as well. I've definitely struggled to keep my Water intake up' date=' and I notice how dry my skin gets, and I've never in my life had a problem with dry skin.

I have heard too, for the most part, that age is on your side if you're younger when you have surgery. What age range do you suppose is considered young enough to hold out this hope? I'm hoping that since I had this surgery at age 33 (turned 34 right after) that I'm still at the tail end of being young enough to have at least a little youth left on my side. : / Also, I know that if you haven't been a yo-yo dieter, and lost and gained repeatedly, that this can help as well.

I'm with you, Ashlie, I'm one of those people that won't be able to afford skin removal surgery. However, I have so much more to lose than your average WLSer, so I know I have to maintain the reality that I will more than likely have to accept massive quantities of extra skin. I just try to hold on to the up side of the whole thing that I will still be much healthier, will feel better, and will at least be able to look great with my clothes on. [/quote']

Well, to start, with VSG, you should have no deficiencies, nor should dehydration be an issue after the first few weeks(never was a problem for me). We have no malabsorption issues due to the surgery, and liquid restriction is pretty much nonexistent.

As far as how long youth is on your side, well, obviously the younger the better. Our bodies are still developing & changing well into our mid to late twenties. I can tell you my experience, I am 28 years old (been 28 for 12years now) and I after 1 year have seen about a 75-80% reduction of my excess skin. Remember, your skin will continue to shrink for 2 years, so 75% in one year sounds good to me.

Are we talking about the US armed forces? It was my understanding that any bariatric surgery was a disqualifying event.

Your skin will continue to shrink for up to 2 years after losing weight. You appear young, in all likelihood your skin will shrink back, not as fast as you'll lose weight but given a little time I'm betting any extra skin will be so minimal that the only person that will even notice it is you(we can always find flaw in ourselves).

Cheat!! Wear heavy clothes & ankle weights to your first appointment. Lots of salt will make you retain Water also. I bet you could add an artificial 15# or so with these. Then there are tons of ways to lose weight temporarily(I'm sure we've all experienced that). I'm sure you've lost weight before, you can do it again.

Is it really a good idea to introduce botulism to a body that is recovering from a major surgery?

Best Protein bars? Sick of shakes and looking for something yummy and not high calorie but high protein...any suggestions?

There is no such thing as a "good" Protein Bar. They are all essentially glorified candy bars.

That being said, the best I've found are

1. Qwest bars

2. Premier Protein Bars.

These are the only two I've found that deliver quality Proteins at less than 10 calories per gram of Protein.< /p>

What website did u order from?

Call Syntrax direct they'll send you a one time sampler for 13.99 including shipping.

866-333-7403

So your saying that I literally can be full of sh*t ?

Ummmmmmm...... That's a rhetorical question, right?

So strange that so many of us crave cheeseburgers. What do they put in those things? I was just wondering how horrible would it be to chew and spit one just so i could get it out of my head lol. In your case' date=' i don't think its a sin. I think you better allow it now and again so it is under control. Thanks for sharing so we all feel human![/quote']

I wouldn't say it's horrible, you'll still get the grease & many of the calories, but not the Protein.

When I was on Clear liquids I would chew watermelon & spit the pulp out.