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Hmmmm...this very much reminds me of when Dr. Atkins first came out with his new data and it was totally rebuffed and scoffed at. He was thought to be a quack that was going to kill people. Maybe they're onto something that we aren't yet. Why do THEY have to be the ones in their wrong thinking? Maybe having an open mind is tough in some cases but for me, I think if it's working it's working and you obviously have inside knowledge of how things work. I would absolutely welcome your advice Dee because just maybe "YOUR" country is ahead in this race, who am I to say they're wrong? I don't have a PhD or even my MD license, nor am I an Rn or an Lpn so to be honest, I'm sure other places do it differently because even Drs HERE can't all agree on one thing. Don't scoff at someone or think they're wrong just because it isn't in line with your way of thinking. Renee`

Ok I hesitate to ask this, but do you have to poop? That will cause mid to lower back pain and then people are amazed that it's suddenly gone, flushed away lol Renee`

My dog frequently poops money (lucky me I guess?) so she has a tummy of steel. She is a naughty, spoiled rotten pitbull that used to get into everything. After making herself sick a few times she learned the hard way I guess. She hasn't "paid out" (as my husband said the first time she pooped money) for a while now and I'm thankful for that. I know what you mean about having to put stuff up and away from them, she gets into everything! Renee`

ok enough please. She's recovering from major surgery and you're adding stress? Nice. How helpful is that, seriously? You can't stand to not have the last word it seems. To be honest it just seems like an attack on Meggie at this point and she doesn't need any more words of encouragement from you. You don't see eye to eye and that's cool just don't click here and move on, right? I've had to bite my tongue numerous times here and when I didn't I found out that all I'd succeeded in doing was making myself look like an ass. Something to think about. Read more, type less, especially when it's just hurtful words to someone going through an emotional and healing time in her life. Meggie, just watched your latest video and woot! You're looking amazing dahling!!! lol Renee`

whatever works and THANK YOU! Now go give your son a huge hug from me because he's just so darn adorable and I gotta love a kid that so adoringly loves and supports his momma! Ok and your hubby is pretty cool too, you can give him a hug from me, give the puppy / baby lots of kisses because puppy kisses are the best stress relievers EVER! XOXO Renee`

Meggie I absolutely adore you! Thank you so much for your kindness and words of advice. I am absolutely freaking out right now you are totally right. I feel so so afraid and not really of the surgery, that's the easy part for me because I just lay there. I'm terrified about the pain I will wake up in. I'm in a horrible flare up right now and nothing I do makes a difference. I know that this is stress induced and while I've tried to relax and be positive I just can't seem to. Add to that, my home has erupted into chaos! It's like my whole world just exploded into a stress filled state and I'm losing my mind. To be honest if I had my way I would drive down there TONIGHT and just do it. The stress of waiting and thinking and thinking about stuff is really taking it's toll on my body. You are such an inspiration to me and I LOVE watching your youtube videos, YOU ROCK woman! XOXO Renee`

Meggie, breathe hun...remember you are recovering from a major surgery and you absolutely don't need this stress. Just know that we love you and are behind you 100%. Now concentrate on making yourself well and not wasting your breath. Hope you're feeling better today XOXO Renee`

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Next WEEK!? omg...is it that soon?!? Looou did you lose your mind before surgery? Cause that's how I feel right now, like I'm going bonkers. THANK YOU so much for telling the rest of it exactly how it is! Renee`

lynn is going with me. gah...first time I've admitted fear and now stupidly in tears and trying to hide it in front of my family. I'm not afraid of the surgery. I believe in Dr. Aceves and his skill 110%, I'm afraid of how it will affect me afterwards. The pain on waking up and having severe fibro and those are the muscles that are the most affected, the one's they'll be cutting through. Just so much AL, and thank you. So much going on right now and I'm losing my damn mind over all of it and I'm helpless to do anything but cry over it Sorry Renee`

I am absolutely terrified to the point that it's almost paralyzing Renee`

I'm not sure if it is or is not allowed but it is annoying to expect a helpful answer to a question and receive a "MY Dr. does this for me and he can for you too!" reply. Chime in, I'm seriously interested to see if it's just me it annoys or if everyone else feels the same way. Renee`

LOL I want you to answer honestly, it's fine! I just think that here on a help forum, it's in bad taste to advertise. People come here to get help whether it's before, during or after the process of wls and not look at ads. I was being facetious with what I posted, I haven't seen it put quite that way either, but I know when I first joined and was in a bit of a lurker stage, there was a battle going on between some that were coordinators for competing Drs. It made me think twice. You're absolutely right in that I can move on, I was just curious as to what others thought about it. Renee`

YAY! Sleep well and I'm so happy for you! Congratulations Renee`

You brought tears to my eyes. You're a special person Meggie and I seriously hope your pain lessens very very soon. *hugs* XOXO Renee`

Meggie is there a lump in it or anything? I know spreading happens, but that is a bit over the top. Renee`

Meggie can you put moist heat on it? Someone else was asking about hematoma's and I looked up on webmd about bruising. Elevate it? Call the Dr? gah...I'm worried about you tonight :Cry: Renee`

You are absolutely an inspiration Meggie. I am so glad that I went to youtube and saw your videos and am able to follow you through this journey. I only wish I could take away your pain. I thought about the fibro and cfs because those are the reasons I'm doing it. I've been almost bedridden for years now and I want my life back. To do that I know I have to go through some suffering and even then there's no guarantee. Something I'm willing to chance. I take so many meds that I had to ask Drs about how the heck I was going to do that after surgery. Are you having any problems taking your pills? I'm so scared. I know I'll be ok and like you, I'll get through it but dag, I've gotta admit, i'm scared. I hope you're getting the rest you need. I left you a msg with my phone number in it so if you need to talk, vent, scream or cry, call me. I promise I'll even try not to make you giggle cause that will hurt. XOXO Renee`

*whews* you almost made me pass out...glad you made that correction! LOL and ToDream, thank you so much as well, I feel better about it, it just icks me out a bit is all. Pas, I'm so so happy that you made it through with flying colors!!! Renee`

I also suffer from severe fibro and cfs and you're right, no one does understand what happens when your body absolutely is pissed off at you and won't relent. Yes, it was insensitive and thoughtless, we've all been guilty of it. Just like wls, education is key. You did the research, you participated in the forums and were totally prepared. NO ONE can prepare your body when you have fibro. It's one of my biggest fears going through this. I wish I could make this easier for you, seriously, if you need someone to talk to, call anytime. Renee`

Please stop this. You have no idea who Meggie is or what she's going through right now, you're only posting to advertise and it's disgusting. I hope that Dr. Aceves' office does something about it because this is NEGATIVE advertising. Meggie, drink what makes YOUR tummy happy girl! You'll get through this, I don't need to tell you that, you know after reading up for so long it can be rough at first. I say drink whatever you can to get fluids in and screw anyone that doesn't like it. I'm so upset right now over this and I know I shouldn't be. Way over emotional over what you're drinking lol dumb, eh? What you drink doesn't matter right now as long as you get something in. If you need someone to talk to, I can give you my phone number. Either way, please don't get discouraged. I know you're hurting and feel awful, just keep sipping. XOXO Renee` \

As soon as Nina let me know that I was set in stone for surgery, I threw away my scale! I'm not going to let this be a numbers game with me or torture myself over the needle not moving. I see my Rheumatologist every two months and at that time I'll find out how much I lost. I want to go by how I FEEL and not about numbers, I've always hated math. Who here is an avid scale watcher and why? Renee`

YAY! now you have to tell me if it was painful or totally icky to get that thing pulled out this morning. ugh, makes me gag thinking about feeling it come out. Not sure how I'll handle it, maybe I'll just pass the hell out and save myself the trauma of it all LOL I'm so glad you're doing wonderfully well and are back! Renee`

I adore all of you! Even though we had some vastly different opinions on here, everyone kinda respectfully stated theirs while acknowledging it wasn't everyone's way, but *their* way. I just want to get all sappy and say "awwwww..group hug!" LOL Irene, I get it because I had those very same issues in HS and once "cured" I vowed I would never go there again. I've kept that vow (obviously!) but I think the scale may throw me back into that mentality as well. I may end up changing my mind at some point, who knows but for now I just can't look at a scale and allow it to determine whether or not I'm a failure again. I wanna feel good again, don't we all? So to me, that's the be all and end all of it. Thanks so much everyone for your replies! XOXO Renee`

ROFL! yeah I totally lied, I just wanted to see what kind of odd positions I could make you get into lol Let me know how that works out for ya hahahhaha XOXO Renee` P.S. it really *did* say that though!