Okay, although I know I'm asking for it, I just HAVE to talk about this.

Does anybody else start to get that "choking/PB" feeling and keep eating so they WILL urp up? I've never been bulemic probably because it was always very difficult for me to throw up, but now this productive burping spitup is pretty easy with the "right" foods. And now this is REALLY gross, but sometimes I actually enjoy it because the food is so fresh you can taste it coming up and it's almost like getting to eat it twice! (And don't even have to absorb the calories.)

I KNOW it's disgusting...and no doubt really BAD for my band, but all of you know how easy it is for us to get caught up in compulsive behavior. This isn't something I do OFTEN, but I haven't even had a fill yet, and I'm a little afraid if I get one I might get even worse at this behavior.

I CAN'T be the only one that does this?

Oh Kare! No, I don't do this, but my DH does. I rarely get things stuck like that, since I'm almost obsessive with "chewing to goo". I've only had a couple of PBs that didn't end with me dry heaving and leaving me feeling sick for hours or days.

It always freakes me out a bit when my DH does this because I know what happens in my body, but he doesn't have this same issue I do.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you when I mentioned counseling.

No, you didn't offend me Margo. I'm sure for some things and some people that's good advice. You really have no way of knowing from my post how experienced or knowledgeable I am about this.

If there is anything I have learned over the years, it is that sharing the WL experience with other people going thru the same thing is about the most valuable assist there is!

I suppose the whole counseling--as well as "ask a doctor"-- sort of advice hits a sore spot with me in that I think our society gives them both more credence than just having a degree should. There are plenty of knowledgable people w/o degrees and plenty of degreed idiots. (I know when I was at UCSB years ago some of the worst teachers I ever had were PhDs.) I REALLY HATE hearing what some of our LBT members have to go thru as far as proving YEARS of WL programs, counseling and all that to get insurance approval. Say what you will about going to MX, at least they let you be responsible for your own decisions.

But... that IS a whole different subject, isn't it?

Anyway, hope I didn't over-react.

Sometimes I chew and spit but not often. I don't like the pb feeling, I feel terrible and it can take so long for it to come back out. Do you feel bad or does it hurt before you pb? For me the terrible feeling keeps me straight. When I start to have a full feeling I have to stop eating. A lot of times I don't want to stop but I know I HAVE TO. At this point I have to get away from the food and do something else. What kills me is that I can't drink after I have eaten something. I love water.

I bring this up only because no one else has mentioned it yet - you all DO know that the acceptable "safe" practice after a PB is liquids only until the next meal?

Even a little PB can irritate the stoma and cause swelling, and get you into a vicious cycle. PBs are to be avoided at all costs.

Ducking shoes...

Chew & Spit - is that like "I didn't inhale"? lol

I just posted another subject in the Food section earlier today. I have found myself doing this (chew and spit) and I was wondering if I was the only one who did that. I don't know if it is a bad habit but it gives me the satisfaction of tasting a certain food but not absorbing all the calories. I have on occasion pb and it came back up but not on purpose I really don't feel safe doing that because I am afraid of the band slipping. Eventhough when my doctor did my procedure he put stiches around the band giving it a better attachment to my stomach to prevent it from slipping.

Chew & Spit - is that like "I didn't inhale"? lol

Touche!

"URP." Go ad that to the LBT dictionary, because that's exactly what I do on occasion. It's not a burp, and it's not vomiting. I can't see how it harms the band since it's just food that's stuck in my throat. An urp (in my book) comes from the back of the throat. It's like a burp with a kick. Food sits in my throat, so I just kinda gulp a little air and force it out with an URP. I never drink Water to force it up though because I had my worst PB episode thinking water would help, and it hurt like hell.

Kare, the only thing I'm going to judge you on is that you enjoy the taste! AAAHHHH!

Hey Delarla, I did Pleasure Company parties for awhile. Is it the same as what you do. It was a lot of fun. I'm thinking about getting into it again it would help with airfare expenses for fills that's for sure. Robin

"URP." Go ad that to the LBT dictionary, because that's exactly what I do on occasion. It's not a burp, and it's not vomiting. I can't see how it harms the band since it's just food that's stuck in my throat. An urp (in my book) comes from the back of the throat. It's like a burp with a kick. Food sits in my throat, so I just kinda gulp a little air and force it out with an URP. I never drink Water to force it up though because I had my worst PB episode thinking water would help, and it hurt like hell.

Kare, the only thing I'm going to judge you on is that you enjoy the taste! AAAHHHH!

Yeah, let's add it to the dictionary. Maybe it's been said before but I have to give Jack credit for the first time I saw it.

As for "enjoying the taste"... well, it would hardly be a confession w/o some humiliation would it??

I guess if I'm the only one willing to stand up and admit to grossness my sholders are broad enough to carry that mantle with pride. (lol!)

Lisa, I do the URP thing too. I thought it was just me! Sometimes it does feel like the food is in my throat & only an URRP will get it down. I thought only my kids could make themselves burp!

This thread is scaring me (I'm not banded yet). Is this something I have to "look forward to" or can it be avoided? Tried "bulemia" in high school...not wanting to try it (in any form) again.

Help! :think

Of course it can be avoided. Just don't do it.

As I have said before, this isn't something I do everyday. I ended up doing it 2 days in a row and yes, it concerns me. If it didn't, I wouldn't have brought it up. After all, THIS IS THE PLACE TO COME TALK ABOUT OUR CONCERNS.

I don't want to scare anybody, but I certainly don't want to not talk about something because it might scare someone or because I might risk a judgemental attitude. It bothers me that besides the people participating in this thread I have had several other people contact me in personal messages saying they sometimes engage in this behavior but don't want to talk about it publicly.

If we don't talk about these things and risk being uncomfortable, how will we learn?

I wasn't saying don't talk about it... just wanted to know. It seems like PBing is common, and all I'm really concerned with is... can I avoid it in general? I'm still in this phase of deciding on what doc to use, not whether or not to get the band. I will do this, I just want to have as much amo as I can going in, so I appreciate your bringing this up. Sorry if I offended you.

Clevergrrly, pbing is not something you just do on purpose. Something is stuck and you body reacts and you can help it or wait it out. Sometimes you eat someting and you don't want to stop eating it even after you feel the full feeling.

Donali.....DUCK!

RENEBENE.... I think it is ...just like that. ppiiitttt