I'm not one to judge others without knowing them/all the facts, but this one burned me!!! I watched the announcements of the Octuplets being born, and thought; well it must have happened due to follicle stimulation because no Dr. would do invitro with 8 or more embryos. Yesterday I watched as the experts gave their opinions with the same conclusion I came to. There was no way any of them would have done invitro with that many eggs and they would turn someone away who wanted that, so they also felt it must have been egg stimulation that caused this.

Now this morning I learn that the mother, who is currently living at home with her mother, already has six children (we know nothing about the father)!!!! And here's the kicker...it WAS invitro!!!! Holy Cow!!! I get that there are crazy people out there, so I'm writing the mom off as nuts, but what the heck happened to regulating and having rules about ethics for this for the Drs.??!! What's next...cloning? Know that I have family members and friends that have been helped by fertility specialists, so I know the benefit in using one, but this guy crossed the line. Just MO.

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Watching a trainwork...

Octuplets' mother fires nurses, her attorney says today

Nadya Suleman terminates services with Angels in Waiting, which offered free child care.

By SARAH TULLY

The Orange County Register

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LA HABRA The octuplets' mother fired the nurses who offered to give free care to her children on the "Dr. Phil" show, just five days after the first babies came home, the mother's attorney said today.

On Sunday, mother Nadya Suleman terminated the four nurses from Angels in Waiting, a nonprofit organization, mostly because one filed a report against her with Child Protective Services, or CPS, said Jeffery Czech, Suleman's attorney. The nurse was concerned about the number of people at the La Habra house, Czech said.

"I think it's more of an issue with trust between the mother and those taking care of her kids," Czech said. "If you can imagine being monitored by somebody (that) every little mistake you make may get you reported to CPS."

Attorney Gloria Allred, who represents Angels in Waiting, declined to comment in an e-mail message.

At least one nurse, sometimes two, from Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center who previously cared for the babies and two nannies are helping to watch the 10 children now at the home, Czech said.

Two of the babies were released from the hospital Tuesday and another two arrived home Saturday. The other four babies remain at the hospital.

Czech said he was unsure who is paying for the nurses, but that Suleman is paying the nannies.

"I don't think it was a great fit from the get-go. There may have been great intentions," Czech said. "The bottom line is, it's not going to work and Nadya does have good alternatives."

Suleman is scheduled to tape another episode of the "Dr. Phil" show on Tuesday to tell her side of the story, Czech said. He was unsure when the show will air.

"She's afraid that rumors may be swirling around, and nurses (at Angels in Waiting) will not be truthful. She wants to make sure everything is said on television while the nurses are saying what they have to say about it," Czech said.

Angels in Waiting, through Allred, came to an agreement on the "Dr. Phil" show that the group would provide free, 24-hour care for Suleman's 14 children. But the arrangement has a contentious and bumpy past.

Allred filed a previous CPS report against Suleman when she failed to respond to Angels in Waiting's offer of free services, threatening that Suleman's children could end up in foster care if she didn't have proper help.

TV host Dr. Phil McGraw intervened, holding a private meeting at his house where the two parties agreed to care for all 14 children. But after the "Dr. Phil" show aired, it was revealed that Angels in Waiting had little money and needed about $135,000 annually for the children's care. Dr. Phil has been helping to raise funds for the services.

Despite the terminations, Czech said Suleman is staying focused on her children's care.

"It really is going well, amazingly well for the number of kids that are there," Czech said.

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I really feel for those babies. Unless her bankroll off of them(the babies) was really huge, she isn't going to be able to afford the care for those children. It is really tragic.

Firing them was very risky on her part, especially if she is trying to cash in on whatever she can get. Not everyone is going to be so willing to donate away when she turns down assistance in this manner. She will not be in the limelight forever and the bad press continues.

Preemies don't need a lot of outsiders in the house, it didn't seem unreasonable for a nursing service that is really most interested in the health and well-being of the preemies to want to limit exposure. It seems like octomom prefers the three-ring circus atmosphere but that is doing nothing for the children.

Is it going to take one of these children dying before CPS does anything about this?

Is it going to take one of these children dying before CPS does anything about this?

How dramatic.

I'd be willing to bet she fired the first nurses because they were NOT overwhelmed by her "celebrity" status and were doing the job for the BABIES.

She got no attention from them, plus they were there to report on her stupid mistakes, so of course she had to get rid of them...they are probably mandatory reporters and would have had to mention the other less-than-ideal circumstances around the other children in the house.

It's going to take a LOT to get this woman to live in the real world, and once the celebrity dies down, she'll be in dire straits.

I just hope she doesn't have a tragedy before someone sees that she is NOT prepared to handle all of this...it's really tragic!

Is it going to take one of these children dying before CPS does anything about this?

I said that to DH last night. WHY would you turn down free help? I dislike this girl intensely, but for the kids sake I want her to have the help she needs.

She's an IDIOT and one of those kids is going to get seriously hurt.

Is it going to take one of these children dying before CPS does anything about this?

Unfortunately, yes.

How dramatic.

Actually she hit the nail right on the head. I will bet the farm that one of them will die... at least one.

I'd be willing to bet she fired the first nurses because they were NOT overwhelmed by her "celebrity" status and were doing the job for the BABIES.

She got no attention from them, plus they were there to report on her stupid mistakes, so of course she had to get rid of them...they are probably mandatory reporters and would have had to mention the other less-than-ideal circumstances around the other children in the house.

It's going to take a LOT to get this woman to live in the real world, and once the celebrity dies down, she'll be in dire straits.

I just hope she doesn't have a tragedy before someone sees that she is NOT prepared to handle all of this...it's really tragic!

AMEN!

In fact, didn't the nurses already report her on that? They reported her, she didn't like it - since criticism is way beneath her - so she "fired" them. Talk about being dramatic.

She's Mommy Dearest at her best and she's acting like the primadonna she wants to be.

I just watched her first/former PR person interviewed on the Today Show. They played a 911 tape from just last night where one of the nurses called 911 to have Gloria Allred removed from the house for being a 'nuiscance'. Apparently Nadya will be interviewing and hiring some nanny's (they discussed concerns that who she chooses might not have the skills needed to deal with these small preemies). The former PR lady says she knows that Nadya sold the rights to photos of the babies and has a financial deal with Radar Online so she has some money coming in.

It IS like watching a train wreck! I too hope that those babies are protected!

Why has no information come out on the doc who did all this yet? Why aren't there stories about shutting him down, or did I miss this?

I agree, I definitley want to hear more about that doctor.

Especially since there is that other story that keeps popping up about the lady (I think in her 40's) who was implanted by the same doctor who has quadruplets on the way. She is now supposedly hospitalized without any health insurance.

How on earth can people afford reproductive procedures and still rely on assistance in any form? You can spend thousands on procedures but don't have basic health insurance. I had to pay for my band out-of-pocket, but I do have reasonable health insurance.

How on earth can people afford reproductive procedures and still rely on assistance in any form? You can spend thousands on procedures but don't have basic health insurance. I had to pay for my band out-of-pocket, but I do have reasonable health insurance.

pretty much my outrage over this situation.

i have very good health insurance but had to pay out of pocket for IVF & my band. the liability is w/this dr!

This is the first I've heard that the other woman doesn't have insurance either! Either way, through taxes or insurance premiums, the public is paying. At a minimum, that fertility doctor ought to be on the hook financially for the babiessssss' medical care.

I wonder how much Angels in Waiting received in donations to help pay for their 24/7 care of the babies. I'm sure it will be put to good use for people who actually appreciate the professional help they can provide, but it's heartbreaking that the babies won't be getting it - because of their mother. At no time, have I ever seen Nadya put her children's interests before her own.