I'm not one to judge others without knowing them/all the facts, but this one burned me!!! I watched the announcements of the Octuplets being born, and thought; well it must have happened due to follicle stimulation because no Dr. would do invitro with 8 or more embryos. Yesterday I watched as the experts gave their opinions with the same conclusion I came to. There was no way any of them would have done invitro with that many eggs and they would turn someone away who wanted that, so they also felt it must have been egg stimulation that caused this.

Now this morning I learn that the mother, who is currently living at home with her mother, already has six children (we know nothing about the father)!!!! And here's the kicker...it WAS invitro!!!! Holy Cow!!! I get that there are crazy people out there, so I'm writing the mom off as nuts, but what the heck happened to regulating and having rules about ethics for this for the Drs.??!! What's next...cloning? Know that I have family members and friends that have been helped by fertility specialists, so I know the benefit in using one, but this guy crossed the line. Just MO.

I don't think so...

Wow, then why would she put herself out there again?Especially inlight of all the negative feedback she is getting from people.

Wow, then why would she put herself out there again?Especially inlight of all the negative feedback she is getting from people.

Cuz she's not all there mentally.

Wow, then why would she put herself out there again?Especially inlight of all the negative feedback she is getting from people.

I suspect she's trying to spin herself in a more sympathetic manner. Also, I predict she'll plug her "donations" website.

My heart goes out to all of those children. Her selfish and thoughtless acts have put all of them in a horrible spot. No matter what happens with octomom, the kids all lose. When I think of the time I've spent raising my children, and how much of my time it actually takes, I know there's no way those kids will ever get enough parental nurturing. There are times when I feel that I don't give mine enough.

It's a no-win situation for 14 young individuals in this society. It's a shame octomom doesn't see that. Her older children already recognize there won't be enough time. Out of the mouths of babes. :tt2:

You know Octopussy didn't one day just decide to have IVF and woke up one morning surprised that she was carrying lots of babies. This has been a process. She has had 6 other children and not all in one litter. She obviously has a plan. She probably intended to make a career out of this and that's why she got all plasticized so that she can be ready for her close up. She figured out a career path and so far, it's working for her. She's banking on the fact that people are always fascinated with freaks and freak shows. Gloria Allred has capitalized on it for many years.

Unfortunately the babies will turn out to be freaks on her freak show. None of them asked for that... hmmm or did they? Shirley McClain would suggest that the babies chose HER!

FOXNews.com - Octuplets' Mother Reportedly in Market for Million-Dollar Home - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

Nadya Suleman, the California mother caught in a media frenzy after giving birth to octuplets, reportedly is looking to buy a home listed for more than a million dollars — news that follows on the heels of reports that her current home is facing foreclosure.

Guess the website is working out for her.

Nadya Suleman, the California mother caught in a media frenzy after giving birth to octuplets, reportedly is looking to buy a home listed for more than a million dollars — news that follows on the heels of reports that her current home is facing foreclosure.

This makes NO sense! She can't (or won't) help save her parents' home, but she can buy herself a million-dollar pad?? Omg, if this doesn't just further show her total narcissism and selfishness, I don't know what does!!! :tt2:

Octo-mom's dad will be on Oprah next week. Man he looks so wiped out.

CHICAGO (AP) -- The father of the California woman who gave birth to octuplets tells Oprah Winfrey that the actions of his daughter and her doctor were "absolutely irresponsible."

Ed Doud says in an interview taped Thursday for "The Oprah Winfrey Show" that he questions the "mental situation" of his daughter. Thirty-three-year-old Nadya Suleman, who already had six children, gave birth to octuplets in late January after undergoing in vitro fertilization.

In excerpts released by Harpo Productions Inc., Doud says Suleman and her children need help, and people shouldn't punish them for what she did by holding back on donations.

Doud says he hopes Suleman will finish her education and start working so she can help support the family.

The show is scheduled to air Tuesday.

She also denied having any plastic surgery. Asked if she'd had her lips done, Suleman replied, "No, no."

Grandmother gave an interview to a local CBS station and says she hopes her daughter can get her own home so that she (grandmom can have her own life). Grandmom says she hopes to go visit her sister in Europe soon so she can live a litttle. Alledgedly Nadya has now taken out a gag order on her mother.

Octuplet Grandfather to Oprah "I Question Her Mental Situation"

Ed Doud, father of Nadya Suleman who gave birth to octuplets in late January 2009, tapes an interview with Oprah Winfrey to be aired on Feb. 24, 2009 in her Chicago studios on Thursday, Feb. 19, 2009. Harpo Productions says Doud calls his daughter and her doctor "absolutely irresponsible" and questions his daughters "mental situation." (AP Photo/Harpo Productions, George Burns)

CHICAGO — The father of the California woman who recently gave birth to octuplets told Oprah Winfrey that he hopes people don't punish his grandchildren for his daughter's irresponsible behavior.

Ed Doud said in an interview taped Thursday for "The Oprah Winfrey Show" that the actions of his daughter, Nadya Suleman, and her doctor were "absolutely irresponsible." But he also issued a plea for the public's help, according to excerpts of the interview released by Harpo Productions Inc.

"You know what? She needs help. I say to everybody now _ people _ we do need help," Doud said. "Do not punish my daughter for what she had done and do not punish the babies, because they were given by God."

A California-based nonprofit called Angels in Waiting has offered Suleman round-the-clock care and a place to stay with her 14 children. It would cost about $135,000 a month to provide the 12 caretakers necessary for the children, money that would have to come from public donations, founder Linda West Conforti said in Los Angeles.

The organization has the trained nursing personnel and experience in caring for very sick children, she said. The group, however, could only provide care for a limited time without the donations, she said.

Suleman, a 33-year-old single mother from Whittier, Calif., already had six children when she gave birth to octuplets in late January after undergoing in vitro fertilization. She is unemployed and lives with her mother in a three-bedroom home.

Property records show Suleman's mother, Angela, owns the home and is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments. The house could be sold at auction beginning May 5.

In response to a question about whether he thinks his daughter is mentally stable, Doud said, "Now I'm no psychiatrist, but I question her mental situation."

Doud said he hopes Suleman will finish her education and start working so she can help support the family.

The show is scheduled to air Tuesday.

Octo-mom's dad will be on Oprah next week. Man he looks so wiped out.

CHICAGO (AP) -- The father of the California woman who gave birth to octuplets tells Oprah Winfrey that the actions of his daughter and her doctor were "absolutely irresponsible."

Ed Doud says in an interview taped Thursday for "The Oprah Winfrey Show" that he questions the "mental situation" of his daughter. Thirty-three-year-old Nadya Suleman, who already had six children, gave birth to octuplets in late January after undergoing in vitro fertilization.

In excerpts released by Harpo Productions Inc., Doud says Suleman and her children need help, and people shouldn't punish them for what she did by holding back on donations.

Doud says he hopes Suleman will finish her education and start working so she can help support the family.

The show is scheduled to air Tuesday.

Shouldn't PUNISH them? So... instead we are guilted into rewarding yet more bad behavior? Don't we already do enough of that? Who we PUNISH are the innocent taxpayers who had no say in this. :tt2:

Gloria Aldridge is now her lawyer. She has offered Nadia a home and some other stuff. She has I think 24 hrs to make up her mind in. But then she went and looked at the mansion. So the drama continues.....

She also denied having any plastic surgery. Asked if she'd had her lips done, .

thanks for posting these - i hadn't seen any of them, well i actually wasn't looking either. does she not realize that her kids will look like her before "shots"..????

the only reason the PS is an issue is because she chose to screw w/her face rather than have a nest egg for her children & now the good citizens of the state of CA get to pick up her medical tab.

too much to read through in the past pages - but i get patty wouldn't have a problem with her daughter getting PS, living at home with her child - should a windfall happen. that's fine in her home, but not fine on the back of tax payers.

patty, this in response to your statement my answers in blue:

*there isn't anyone here who can't relate to her or anyone else in the world in some way.

there is absolutely NOTHING i can relate to about this woman

*Who has never taken a dime from ANY form of assistance?

never a dime. moved out of my parents home with luggage as a graduation gift @18 - never went back. no student loans, no state/fed gov assitance - nothing. worked my way through grad school - able to retire @ age 36. now back in school pt (law), and am wking pt in my prior field. the only financial gifts i was given were wedding presents.

*Who has never spent money on something they wanted instead of something they needed.

i did - wanted a pair of shoes over a steak diner - still didn't have a mouth to feed other than mine.

*Who has children without a father?

i wouldn't - i didn't grow up w/out a father....but life happens, you don't intentionally pursue that life

*Who has never lived with their parents after they turned 18 and should have been supporting themselves.

NOPE - not me, not ever

*Who has never put things on hold and/or had to depend on someone else to help them till they finish their education.

not me - was self reliant at any early age, went w/out certain luxuries while working FT & going to grad school at night. didn't have a mouth to feed, otherwise school might not have been an option.

*Which one of you have never made a stupid choice or decision in life?

yep i have - wasn't aresponsible for another life other than my own regarding said choice.

*Who has never accepted charity?

me

Who has never done something that turned out to be far more complicating then you thought it would be?

i have - again, wasn't responsible for another life

these assertions really annoyed me yesterday when i read them. there are people out "there/here" who really can't just relate to this woman - do we want ill regard to her children??? absolutely not - she however is not a suitable parent & i hope they are taken from her and put in proper homes.

going through IVF is devastating & financially crippling to some - she's made nothing more of a mockery of this.

ok - off rant.

Wow...what a thread.

Very simply - I agree with most of you. Nadya S. should NOT have had further IVF until she secured her CURRENT children's well being. That means a home that is not close to foreclosure, college funds, etc.

Before you ask - yes, I did all of that for MY children (though I've only got 3 not 14). I have done without many times to make sure my children got what THEY needed.

To have further IVF is irresponsible and I think criminal. She cannot provide for the children she HAS, yet she selfishly asked to be implanted with MORE. I cannot, in all good conscience, say that what she did was correct or even sane.

Now that the babies are here, I fear for their safety if they stay with her. She has NOT shown that she has the good sense or fiscal responsibility to raise that many children. They should be adopted out with a provision that they can be kept in contact with each other. The babies should not suffer because their incubator (she is NOT a mother) made a bad decision.

This is a sad situation, made even sadder because now it appears that she is going to try and PROFIT from the situation. If any money is given to the family, it should be held in an irrevocable trust and an administrator appointed so that Nadya cannot touch ANY of the money and the bills related to the children go straight to the administrator. Administrators should be changed every so often to avoid any appearance or actual impropriety. Excess funds should be invested for the children's care and / or education.

I weep for the babies...Nadya does not get ANY sympathy from me. She KNEW exactly what she was doing, and she was WRONG. There is no honor or glory in what she has done - and I cannot believe any good force in this universe would back her on this situation.

VERY well said, Ebony!

Apparently she's now getting flack for her fake nails as well (you can see her perfect manicure on the Ann Curry Dateline piece). She was out shopping and getting her nails done again the other day with a trail of reporters following. The article was mainly about how does she have time to shop (video games) and get her nails done with all those kids that need her time.

The flack on this one is that fake nails cause problems for babies in the NICU so the people in the medical community are telling her to get rid of them. Don't know what the problem is as they didn't spell it out, but maybe some of the nurses here know? You'd think the hospital the babies are in would have handled this with her, but maybe it's not a huge deal. You can see her touching all the babies on the Dateline piece.

And E.R., well said!