I'm not one to judge others without knowing them/all the facts, but this one burned me!!! I watched the announcements of the Octuplets being born, and thought; well it must have happened due to follicle stimulation because no Dr. would do invitro with 8 or more embryos. Yesterday I watched as the experts gave their opinions with the same conclusion I came to. There was no way any of them would have done invitro with that many eggs and they would turn someone away who wanted that, so they also felt it must have been egg stimulation that caused this.

Now this morning I learn that the mother, who is currently living at home with her mother, already has six children (we know nothing about the father)!!!! And here's the kicker...it WAS invitro!!!! Holy Cow!!! I get that there are crazy people out there, so I'm writing the mom off as nuts, but what the heck happened to regulating and having rules about ethics for this for the Drs.??!! What's next...cloning? Know that I have family members and friends that have been helped by fertility specialists, so I know the benefit in using one, but this guy crossed the line. Just MO.

Is it a Jesus fish?

It is a Darwin fish.

She was a nurse, so she made pretty good money when she was working.

What? I didn't know she was a nurse. :tt2: Does anyone know what kind of nurse she was? I personally find her a disgrace to the nursing profession if she was really a nurse. She should have know better than to have that many children. Her work as a nurse should have shown her that you can't have babies just because you want to be loved. How in the world could she have ever thought she could afford or care for that many? Sorry for my ranting. Uggh :tt2:

She was NOT a nurse. She was a tech. Huge difference. And techs don't make that much money. I know, I used to be one.

She was NOT a nurse. She was a tech. Huge difference. And techs don't make that much money. I know, I used to be one.

Thanks for the clarification Carrie, that's what I kinda thought. There is a huge difference...like a degree or two, lol. I was a tech, (ok a nursing assistant way back then) and they don't make much more than minimum wage in most organizations.

Anyway, I hope she's not telling people she used to be a nurse. It totally irks me when people do that. :tt2:

She was NOT a nurse. She was a tech. Huge difference. And techs don't make that much money. I know, I used to be one.

Whoops, my bad..you're right...it says "tech doing basic nursing duties." Sorry.

Well, we have already established that her logic is imprecise (when it suits her) and shallow - she has, afterall, been telling everyone that she is not on welfare....

How do you know that she didn't have this plastic surgery BEFORE she had kids? She was a nurse, so she made pretty good money when she was working. If she had the surgery before kids, then so what?

Because they showed pictures of her -- WITH KIDS (though not these babies) -- and she looked normal. Later on, she looked like her head got sucked into a vacuum.

She may be going to school to become a nurse. Maybe that's what I heard. About the welfare thing... Some people do believe that welfare is when you collect 'cash' assistance, and foodstamps isn't the same as welfare. In her defense, when I was on welfare all those years ago, they used to ask me, "Do you get welfare, or foodstamps? Do you get medical coverage?" So, she may have been confused as to what actually is welfare.

Thanks for the clarification Carrie, that's what I kinda thought. There is a huge difference...like a degree or two, lol. I was a tech, (ok a nursing assistant way back then) and they don't make much more than minimum wage in most organizations.

Anyway, I hope she's not telling people she used to be a nurse. It totally irks me when people do that. :tt2:

No, I don't think she's telling people that. She said on the interview that she was a tech. I was a nursing assistant too, and the pay is a joke.

Also, collecting disability payments is not welfare. If someone is disabled, and she would have to have a doctor prove it, whether herself or her children, then it is a legitimate income. And if she is getting disability, then she deserves to. As far as the student loans go, if she has taken out loans, then they she will have to repay them just like the rest of us. What business is that of anyones? Student loans are not just for tuition, they can be used for living expenses a well.

She may be going to school to become a nurse. Maybe that's what I heard. About the welfare thing... Some people do believe that welfare is when you collect 'cash' assistance, and foodstamps isn't the same as welfare. In her defense, when I was on welfare all those years ago, they used to ask me, "Do you get welfare, or foodstamps? Do you get medical coverage?" So, she may have been confused as to what actually is welfare.

No, she is not in school to be a nurse. It would be kinda hard to be a nurse with a bad back.

She will be able to return her moms goodness towards her at that time. I am sure that there will be a HUGE audience to view her life on TV. I'm sure most of you will watch it. It's something everyone wants to hear about.

Oh, I hope not. We cannot in good consciosness support this woman's dillusional perceptions of motherhood and support of all her children.

The best thing society could do for this mom, is have CPS step in and protect the children while mom receives mental health services. Profiting off our children is disgusting.

LOS Angeles, Feb. 18 (UPI) -- The Learning Channel's president says Nadya Suleman, the California woman who recently gave birth to octuplets, won't be getting her own TLC show.

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Glad to hear it. Profiting off of innocent children is wrong!!:tt2:

Even if she had 1 kid or 2 or 3 at the time that she had her plastic surgery, So what? If she had the money at the time and could afford to do it, then who are we to say she can't spend her money on whatever she wanted to? I'm sure that at the time she had her surgery, she wasn't thinking that she would one day have 8 or 9 or 10 more kids to support, so "I better bank this money I have."

Oh please, living with your parents at reduced rates with 1 or two children does not justify spending money on PS. Children come first, not a parent's own selfish lustful needs.

Also, collecting disability payments is not welfare. If someone is disabled, and she would have to have a doctor prove it, whether herself or her children, then it is a legitimate income. And if she is getting disability, then she deserves to. As far as the student loans go, if she has taken out loans, then they she will have to repay them just like the rest of us. What business is that of anyones? Student loans are not just for tuition, they can be used for living expenses a well.

As a person with students loans, the loan documents and all the paper work I signed state that the loans are for the student who is going to school. The loans are not to support the students family. It is fraud to use student loans innapropriatley.

And octo-mom is not a nurse. Where the hell are you getting your information? Do you just make up this stuff as you go?

I believe who have a bad connection too God, because you aren't receiving accurate information.